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Aug 3 2010, 03:45 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
No it isn't. CoDzilla, anyone? You can do it easier, but CoDzilla is the strongest, Core or expanded sources.
(Cleric or Druid - zilla) |
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Aug 3 2010, 04:28 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Wa, USA Member No.: 1,139 |
No it isn't. CoDzilla, anyone? You can do it easier, but CoDzilla is the strongest, Core or expanded sources. (Cleric or Druid - zilla) Dont forget your one level of rogue for trapfinding (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Personally I would say Druid, just remember though your a summoner not a fighter. |
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Aug 3 2010, 04:34 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 312 Joined: 3-March 10 Member No.: 18,237 |
Can we move 'That other game' banter to another thread, I look forward to reading all the ingenius (speeeling) Johnson ideas that have come up earlier!
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Aug 3 2010, 04:34 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
I'd personally limit you to entering the dungeon at level 2, as that's what my group did. It's written to start at level 1, but advises that all players have a minimum of 2 backup sheets ready to go in case of death.
It's also written assuming only core-3 books, but we ran through it with many many others. |
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Aug 3 2010, 05:33 AM
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Dumorimasoddaa ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,687 Joined: 30-March 08 Member No.: 15,830 |
Ill start a thread in genral gameing about this soon-ish. CoDzilla bah you can get pun pum at lvl 1 if you know what your are doing. However I'm a fan of the warforged artificer. It's like a combat cleric but not with all the buffs and such. Plus the abillty to on they fly add temp enchantment to weapons always help bane as needed and or protection as needed.
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Aug 3 2010, 05:43 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 16-June 07 From: Finland Member No.: 11,928 |
Wait for it, wait for it, they stole their OWN samples and turned them over to a corp, Round two of the tournament was tracking down who they had worked for and getting the samples back before the ritual sorcery fries them all. Beautiful. Just beautiful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Aug 3 2010, 07:02 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Ill start a thread in genral gameing about this soon-ish. CoDzilla bah you can get pun pum at lvl 1 if you know what your are doing. However I'm a fan of the warforged artificer. It's like a combat cleric but not with all the buffs and such. Plus the abillty to on they fly add temp enchantment to weapons always help bane as needed and or protection as needed. What is it with all these Mega Man clones? In any event, if you do in fact start a thread off in General Gaming I won't be following - I already spend enough time monitoring the SR tab here. Back on topic: 1) (I forget if I already posted this - I don't believe I did) I actually had a Johnson hire a hit out... on his wife's favorite pet dog. It was one of those little yappy rat-wanna-be-s, and he couldn't stand the thing, but because his wife loved it so much he couldn't just get rid of it, so he had to get rid of it. This involved infiltrating a corporate housing facility and firing on the dog. They could have done it a cleaner way, but that's what they chose. 2) I also had another Johnson hire a wetwork for his own daughter. She had Awakened and took up an urban druid tradition, not going hermetic and getting involved with the 'corp like she should have. In order to prevent what he considered to be a public disgrace, he ordered a hit on her to prevent his peers from finding out. There also needed to be no traces of a struggle, and no way to trace her. My group could have abducted her as they did, no problem, and stick her behind a mana barrier until they figured out a way to prevent her from being chased... But they instead killed her and fed her to ghouls. |
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Jan 19 2011, 03:01 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 15-October 07 From: Iceland Member No.: 13,715 |
My group could have abducted her as they did, no problem, and stick her behind a mana barrier until they figured out a way to prevent her from being chased... But they instead killed her and fed her to ghouls. Yeah, it seems when playing SR the players rarely take the moral high ground. |
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Jan 19 2011, 05:46 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
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Jan 19 2011, 07:01 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 821 Joined: 4-December 09 Member No.: 17,940 |
That's just murder on order and corpse disposal. Certainly far from any sort of moral high ground, but in my opinion still a safe distance from the moral event horizon. No torture or the like, just plain murder for cash.
Back on topic, a scenario I'm currently writing has the players hired to snatch a coffin from a mortuary and replace it with an identical looking one. The coffin to be stolen is occupied by a fresh corpse awaiting the funerals - which will have to be moved from one coffin to the other. The Johnson tells the players he wants to steal some 'hot stuff' hidden in the coffin to let the heat about cool off. The substitution means that the theft won't be noticed before he has covered his tracks. Of course there's a catch (oh well, even several catches): the stolen coffin if perfectly normal, the substitute has been prepared with enough explosives and metal bits to turn the burial into a bloodbath... Then the corpse is a maffia don's wife. The Johnson has planted false pointing him as a columbian, while in reality he's an italo-amreican working for a maffia member eager to clean up the hierarchy to improve his positions Who will of course take the lead in the maffia's hunt for the PCs that will follow the explosion. |
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Jan 19 2011, 09:14 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
While it was a really crappy job GMing, I still take a point in pride that, when my group had to go to LA again, they ended up having to extract...
Batman. From ComiCon. Which is now a year-round event. In San Diego, Aztlan, near LA. |
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Jan 20 2011, 12:13 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 11-June 10 Member No.: 18,694 |
We once got a job from a seriously high-ranking Azzie executive who wanted us to steal something. Specifically, he wanted us to sneak into a building with ridiculous security and exploit a twelve-minute system maintenance window to get something out of a safe. A hidden safe in the bowels of the facility, surrounded by leech walls and constantly watched by several spirits that would immediately alert people if they saw anything suspicious. In fact, the whole run had to be done without leaving a trace that anyone was even there, much less who it was and what they did.
We eventually got around the Awakened security problem by disguising an anthroform drone as a security guy and having the rigger pilot it into the vault with the object of the run. An object the Johnson hadn't said much of anything about, besides that it was important, and got huffy when we asked why. Said object also had to be returned in -pristine- condition, untouched, unchanged, not even with any tags it may have had on it erased. The object? A slightly bent tin can. It -did- turn out to be important, but it was very WTF at the time. |
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Jan 20 2011, 12:26 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
The first game I ran was based on Dunkelzahn's will.
The group had to break in and steal the prototype for... JIFFY POP! I still have the popcorn hanging in my pantry. |
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Jan 20 2011, 10:29 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Imperial Japan Member No.: 6,483 |
I GM'd a game where the runners were hired by an undercover Lone Star officer to get a wooden crate 1.5mx1.5mx1.5m wrappen in paper and then keep it safe for a few weeks. They werent allowed to open, damage or even probe the crate (which also was warded) while they had it.
The way they would recognize the "johnson" was that he would be at the aquarium holding a Betty BigBoobs doll on his arm. Both the Yakuza and the Triads were holding for the crate and they had ways of tracking it. It turned out to be a tea set from way back in Chinese history, which the cop had stolen from the Triads, framed the Yakuza for doing it and hoped he could spark a mob war and then "discover" the set and get it back to the triads to buy his way in. Was fun seeing my team telling to figure out ways to gain knowledge of the contents of the crate, but also keeping it unscratched through all the rolling firefights as they transported the crate around town. My team actually converted a barbie doll into a Betty Bigboobs doll and gave it to me on my 25th birthday. I also always wanted to do the "You want me to do WHAT in this cup!?!" type of run ^^ |
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Jan 20 2011, 11:01 AM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
I had some weird runs.
One Johnson had a special adept power that was essentially acid spray, but actually vomiting. He also had us go on a metaplane that looked like Mars. He killed a PC like that when the PC didn't like his terms. We didn't take any more calls from that guy. One had my character watch over and record a staged wild west shootout tournament in the sense of for some rich New York dude, which he staged for his enjoyment. The shooters all were other runners, among them other PC. It was fought with live bullets. One time, we were hired to kidnap a corper and deliver him to a certain location. Easy peasy and standard until it turns out we're actually delivering the guy to his birthday party where all his colleagues jump from behind cabinets and yell "SURPRISE HAPPY BURTHDAY" and start throwing confetti and stuff. Needless to say we all had to make surprise checks to not start shooting the people. Oh yes, his boss also was a dragon. And then there was this weird run where we had to protect a transport carrying several barrels of nitroglycerine through half of Algeria from islamic terrorists. |
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Sep 18 2011, 05:04 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Necroposting this, as I'm hoping there's new tales to be heard...
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Sep 18 2011, 05:25 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
Necroposting this, as I'm hoping there's new tales to be heard... I have one. I gave my players a little run outside of town, once. To a little cabin on a lake, in order to do an investigation on recent events, and keep it out o the media. In order to get there, they had to hire a driver (out of 4 players, no one had a vehicle that could transport more then one or 2 people. And only one of them had a bike), then not kill the driver (he was a sexist Ork, and two PCs were female), then they found out the cabin was owned by the governor. That had them excited... They get to the cabin, and a few minutes later, they hear a crash from the direction the driver left in. When the closest person investigates, she finds a large person (taller then a standard Troll) in the woods. She attempts to communicate... and gets a machete in the shoulder. A long stalemate of a fight involving all the runners later, including the creature going down twice and getting back up, and it runs into the lake and disappears. They hold off exploring inside the cabin until morning. They enter the cabin, and find it a mess. with 5 dead teens in various poses, and magical after effects (mainly a couple ghosts re-enacting the final moments of the teens, including a screaming one being thrown out the window, and another appearing to fight, and lose, to a huge, humanoid creature). |
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Sep 18 2011, 06:42 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
I have one. I gave my players a little run outside of town, once. To a little cabin on a lake, in order to do an investigation on recent events, and keep it out o the media. In order to get there, they had to hire a driver (out of 4 players, no one had a vehicle that could transport more then one or 2 people. And only one of them had a bike), then not kill the driver (he was a sexist Ork, and two PCs were female), then they found out the cabin was owned by the governor. That had them excited... They get to the cabin, and a few minutes later, they hear a crash from the direction the driver left in. When the closest person investigates, she finds a large person (taller then a standard Troll) in the woods. She attempts to communicate... and gets a machete in the shoulder. A long stalemate of a fight involving all the runners later, including the creature going down twice and getting back up, and it runs into the lake and disappears. They hold off exploring inside the cabin until morning. They enter the cabin, and find it a mess. with 5 dead teens in various poses, and magical after effects (mainly a couple ghosts re-enacting the final moments of the teens, including a screaming one being thrown out the window, and another appearing to fight, and lose, to a huge, humanoid creature). Jason? |
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Sep 18 2011, 06:56 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
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Sep 18 2011, 07:24 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
A Manhattan team, the Johnson hired us to break into an Aztechnology subsidiary and steal the data on a new chip flavor they were about to unleash on the public after a huge advertising campaign. Not so bad, some food company espionage. The kicker was we also had to taint the first product batch with huge amounts of extremely powerful medical laxatives. The team pulled it off, stole a few untainted bags and informed their closest contacts not to buy this particular brand and maybe update their stock profiles. The resulting media blitz product release parties went all wrong on world wide live Trid. We never did find out who the Johnson worked for, but the team figured it was Horizon due to the longevity of the TV embarrassment that followed. Was that before SR4? I'm surprised the players agreed to it if it was SR4 or SR4A... I once ran a tournament at gen con where I had a group run against doc wagon and steal the DNA samples of several numbered lots. They were given the coded numbers to extract the numbers from a high security center in seattle. The run was high paying difficult job with doc wagon high threat response teams coming to defend the facility and almost mil spec matrix security. After a hard fought battle they have the 6 numbered samples in their hands and turn them over to this johnson and are counting their money when they get a message informing them that their doc wagon samples have been "damaged" and they will need to come in and resubmit samples... Wait for it, wait for it, they stole their OWN samples and turned them over to a corp, Round two of the tournament was tracking down who they had worked for and getting the samples back before the ritual sorcery fries them all. There was cursing and oh you son of a B***h I can't believe this. after round one. Hmmm, where do I find those rituals? Street Magic? Because this sounds like a perfect run for when the players really get on my nerves. |
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Sep 18 2011, 07:32 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
Hmmm, where do I find those rituals? Street Magic? Because this sounds like a perfect run for when the players really get on my nerves. Ritual Spellcasting, core book. You need a link to the target (and genetic material counts: counts so well you don't even have to know WHO the material belongs to). |
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Sep 18 2011, 08:24 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
Ritual Spellcasting, core book. You need a link to the target (and genetic material counts: counts so well you don't even have to know WHO the material belongs to). Are we talking about SR4 or SR4A? Because after reading the appropriate section in the former, I can't see any use for Ritual Spellcasting whatsoever. And the question of "links" is not as easy as you say. Now why did I have to buy SR4 instead of SR4A, I seriously wonder. |
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Sep 18 2011, 08:33 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 7-June 11 From: Virginia Beach, VA Member No.: 31,052 |
Are we talking about SR4 or SR4A? Because after reading the appropriate section in the former, I can't see any use for Ritual Spellcasting whatsoever. And the question of "links" is not as easy as you say. Now why did I have to buy SR4 instead of SR4A, I seriously wonder. Ritual Spellcasting is so that you don't need to be in LoS to cast on the target. You can also use multiple spellcasters together with it for a more powerful effect. You make up for this by sharing the drain between casters, a much longer casting time, and the required use of a sympathetic link to your target. Meta-magics are available to initiated casters to broaden the range of material links you can use. |
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Sep 18 2011, 09:38 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
Meta-magics are available to initiated casters to broaden the range of material links you can use. Ha, metamagics. Now that makes sense, as without that you'd still have to have an astral observer keep an eye on your target. And 18P drain split between 3-4 casters isn't that scary - it WILL hurt, but whatever was on the other end of the spell won't get any deader. |
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Sep 18 2011, 10:47 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Using a genetic sample with ritual magic (Blood is typical, but hair, skin, nail clippings, spit, urine, whatever will work.) is handled by Material Links (Street Magic, Pages 28-29), does not require any Metamagic.
Sympathetic Links (Using an object connected to the character, a favorite T-Shirt, part of the seat from a car they've had for 20-years, a coffee cup used just that morning) does require Metamagic to work. Symbolic Links (Same Metamagic), can use a picture, sculpture, or doll. |
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