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post Jul 26 2010, 12:48 PM
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Interesting turn of events. I guess the mage took the very easy way out ;D
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post Jul 26 2010, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chaos @ Jul 26 2010, 07:48 AM) *
Interesting turn of events. I guess the mage took the very easy way out ;D


Well SK originally thought they were there to cause the mahem, then it was the sudden realization they were just idiots with a very destructive set of skills... and well might as well get some use out of them other than target practice when they were captured.

IT's a bottom line thing, SK spent all that nuyen might as well put a hurt on someone else and call it even
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post Jul 26 2010, 12:57 PM
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Sounds like what a Dragon would do alright. Nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 26 2010, 01:19 PM
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Somehow, I fail to see how Mindrape is any worse from a moral standpoint than traditional torture or, heck, murder. Sure, it's invasive. But so is interrogation, if the target is trained to resist it. Don't believe me? Go watch some episodes of 24. Having every joint of your fingers broken, one of your eyes gouged out with a spoon, your lips removed with a peeler, we'll talk about what is worse.

As for mind manipulation spells being subtle, remember the threshold to spot spellcasting is 6-Force. Your net hits cap at Force. And your target gets to 'soak' your net hits every couple of combat rounds, so in order to manipulate effectively, your spell will get spotted.
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post Jul 26 2010, 01:32 PM
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If somebody observes you. Spirit+conceilment power+Mindprobe... evil combo
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post Jul 26 2010, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chaos @ Jul 26 2010, 02:32 PM) *
If somebody observes you. Spirit+conceilment power+Mindprobe... evil combo



Good luck trying that during a negotiation with Mr Johnson (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Besides, isn't Mind Probe a touch range spell?
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post Jul 26 2010, 01:54 PM
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Yes, but with enough AGI and stealth a touch the victim doesn't notice should be managable. Yes, my solution is not applicable (applyable?) to negotiations with your Johnson, but to a frightful lot of other situations...
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post Jul 26 2010, 02:00 PM
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Not to mention all the ways you can get to touch your target legitimately.
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post Jul 26 2010, 02:07 PM
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Well, Mind Probe mentions that the target will notice that it is being probed, and if the only one touching you is that hot Pornomancer on your lap, she's an obvious target.

As for touching someone while concealed, remember that obvious targets are a fixed threshold to detect. And anyone touching you while invoking an itchy feeling associated with mind probing is an obvious target in my book.
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post Jul 26 2010, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Jul 26 2010, 04:00 PM) *
Not to mention all the ways you can get to touch your target legitimately.

There's noway to touch someone legitimately and be unnoticed by everyone around. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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post Jul 26 2010, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Jul 26 2010, 04:07 PM) *
Well, Mind Probe mentions that the target will notice that it is being probed, and if the only one touching you is that hot Pornomancer on your lap, she's an obvious target.

Just get your orgasm spell running before: -net hits to perception (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Jul 26 2010, 07:57 PM
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You could always make the resistance threshold 2 + the successes generated by willpower
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