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Advocatus Diaboli  Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282  |
It's wasn't a terribly *nice* 'poking a bit of fun'. It was condescending and dismissive. So, I wouldn't say there's much high ground there. A mild reminder from the mod doesn't hurt, although I'm surprised it inspired all this extra discussion.
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Jul 28 2010, 06:04 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
"Poking fun" tends to not be so deadly serious in tone that it's downright mean-spirited.
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Jul 28 2010, 06:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 23-June 10 Member No.: 18,749 |
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jul 28 2010, 12:04 PM)  "Poking fun" tends to not be so deadly serious in tone that it's downright mean-spirited. -karma "and layer 3 of paper/magazine clippings of Katy Perry." You're right. That's deadly serious. |
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Jul 28 2010, 06:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 14-April 09 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 17,079 |
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jul 28 2010, 01:04 PM) "Poking fun" tends to not be so deadly serious in tone that it's downright mean-spirited. "Deadly serious" and "mean-spirited?" Amazing how you can infer so much emotional content and intent from text alone. I read the same post as you did and I saw a slightly condescending attempt at satire while pushing a (hardly new) point of view that some rules disputes are counter-productive and can scare away that wily critter we call "fun." I looked at this topic, had a small internal chuckle, and would never have returned if there hadn't been a, imo, totally unjustified moderator warning. Maybe I'm just bored at work today, but this seems to me a case of heavy-handed moderation. |
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Jul 28 2010, 06:15 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Why is a brief warning such a cause for alarm? If people hadn't reacted to *that*, there'd be no problem here, either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 28 2010, 06:20 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
It's not the intent that matters so much as the effect Eidolon is concerned with. If the OP is intended to be a spoof, it needs to be very clear, otherwise the mods are going to have to do work.
Given the immediate response and subsequent goading it's apparent not everyone read the initial post in the same way. |
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Jul 28 2010, 06:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 14-April 09 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 17,079 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 28 2010, 01:15 PM) Why is a brief warning such a cause for alarm? If people hadn't reacted to *that*, there'd be no problem here, either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm glad you put a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) at the end of your sentence. We need more emoticons. Perhaps my problem is that I didn't sprinkle enough emoticons in my posts to show that I am not, in fact, alarmed but rather bored at work after lunch and chose this topic as my pet cause for the afternoon. |
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Jul 28 2010, 06:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 14-April 09 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 17,079 |
QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Jul 28 2010, 01:20 PM) It's not the intent that matters so much as the effect Eidolon is concerned with. If the OP is intended to be a spoof, it needs to be very clear, otherwise the mods are going to have to do work. Given the immediate response and subsequent goading it's apparent not everyone read the initial post in the same way. That's fair except that the spoof doesn't work unless the spoofer can take in a few people before making the "reveal." Was it a bit mean-spirited? Yes, in the way that all such humor is. I'm just mystified by why this is a bad thing; why a few ever-so-slightly contused internet feelings is worth a moderator warning. |
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Jul 28 2010, 06:33 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 |
QUOTE (Semerkhet @ Jul 28 2010, 06:27 PM) That's fair except that the spoof doesn't work unless the spoofer can take in a few people before making the "reveal." Was it a bit mean-spirited? Yes, in the way that all such humor is. I'm just mystified by why this is a bad thing; why a few ever-so-slightly contused internet feelings is worth a moderator warning. Personally, I appreciated the moderator warning because the 'joke' sucked. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) I read it over and saw it as a situation that requested clarification of the mechanics. The Katy Perry layer was discarded as irrelevant, as Katy Perry should be. |
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Jul 28 2010, 06:34 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
The moderator warning, nuclear weapon of internet threads. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jul 28 2010, 06:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 14-April 09 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 17,079 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 28 2010, 01:34 PM) The moderator warning, nuclear weapon of internet threads. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I made my point, which is that we should all be able to laugh at ourselves, even if we feel the joke was a bit forced. A good day to you all. |
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Jul 28 2010, 07:53 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Guys, no "warnings" were issued. In the OP's own words, he was specifically creating a thread, duplicating a conversation that was apparently already taking place, that contained "controversial" subject matter, and that he/she (sorry, don't know you from the proverbial Adam, I've been away) knew that people would argue about it ad nauseam.
If you meant it more on the joke side and less on the "start pointless arguments for your own amusement" side, then okey dokey smokey. |
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Jul 29 2010, 01:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 23-June 10 Member No.: 18,749 |
QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Jul 28 2010, 01:20 PM) It's not the intent that matters so much as the effect Eidolon is concerned with. If the OP is intended to be a spoof, it needs to be very clear, otherwise the mods are going to have to do work. I'm not sure I could have made it more obviously a spoof without saying "***SPOOF ALERT***" in the sub-title. Several people got it. Glyph obviously got it right away. Sorry the rest of you took logic as your dump stat. |
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Jul 29 2010, 02:07 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I'm not sure, but I think he just called us stupid (again). I'm sure it was just a joke though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 29 2010, 02:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 172 Joined: 26-July 10 Member No.: 18,852 |
Laodicea,
As you have just called all the people posting on this thread who disagree with you mentally challenged by saying that logic is their dump stat... Not sure you do need to be here. If I wanted to be exposed to pointless name calling and arguing I would just go back to my class room and listen to my high school students. On the original post... The question is an interesting one, RAW I think you are stuck in the room with the spirit. Barring incredible luck, now is the time for demolitions to save your friend. |
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Jul 29 2010, 02:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 20-July 04 From: Oregon Member No.: 6,498 |
Hes not saying yer stupid. Hes saying you don't have common sense. But that in itself is a bit uncalled for.
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Jul 29 2010, 02:45 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Wait, Logic isn't common sense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jul 29 2010, 02:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 20-July 04 From: Oregon Member No.: 6,498 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 28 2010, 10:45 PM) Wait, Logic isn't common sense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Logically speaking? |
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Jul 29 2010, 02:51 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
No, everyone knows that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jul 29 2010, 03:04 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
QUOTE (Sesix @ Jul 28 2010, 08:44 PM) Hes not saying yer stupid. Hes saying you don't have common sense. But that in itself is a bit uncalled for. This entire thread is uncalled for and is rapidly turning into a fine example of why eidolon was leery of it to begin with. Laodicea: if your intent was to make a joke which some people view as baiting you're not doing yourself any favors by following it up with actual baiting. jakephillips: please don't tell anyone they aren't supposed to be here. |
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Jul 29 2010, 03:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 23-June 10 Member No.: 18,749 |
You guys are probably right. I've made a huge mistake by posting a couple jokes here. I forgot that this is the same forum that couldn't take a joke by Stephen Colbert.
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Jul 29 2010, 03:41 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
Whether your original joke was baiting or not is debatable, and irrelevant. I am commenting on your followup statement about everyone "taking logic as [their] dump stat", which seems to me a clear case of baiting and is already generating reports to the moderators.
Get the chip of your shoulder. If your actions generate more work for us and detract from our ability to enjoy our time around here, don't be surprised when the moderators fail to appreciate the humor in your "jokes". |
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Jul 29 2010, 03:43 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649 |
QUOTE (Laodicea @ Jul 29 2010, 04:10 AM) You guys are probably right. I've made a huge mistake by posting a couple jokes here. I forgot that this is the same forum that couldn't take a joke by Stephen Colbert. You posted some jokes? Where? |
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