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post Aug 27 2010, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (sabs @ Aug 27 2010, 09:57 AM) *
When I first read the biowire stuff. I really wanted to make a street samurai with no implants, and just using straght up technomancer foo. But then i realized that the extra ip's only worked in vr, and i was a sad player.

Couple of ideas I had
Sniper/Rigger
Demolitions/rigger
StreetDoc

I had an idea for a very specialized investigator
Math SPU, Attention Co-processor, Assensing, Arcana.

But no spells, and no summoning.


Might cost you some points but you only need to maintain magic 1 to retain access to assensing, since it's an intuition based skill your magic largely doesnt matter.
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE (sabs @ Aug 27 2010, 08:57 AM) *
When I first read the biowire stuff. I really wanted to make a street samurai with no implants, and just using straght up technomancer foo. But then i realized that the extra ip's only worked in vr, and i was a sad player.

Acceleration, page 147, Unwired.
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:09 PM
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EDIT: Neraph you sly minx you, Ninja'd

On another note almost done with the mundane banisher, back story is an ex priest who was drugged with Tempo I believe it was and got a bad taste of the Astral. Drove him half crazy but after seeing the threats few people could handle in it he devoted his life to putting these creatures down wherever he found them and the people who use them for their own nefarious purposes. Can't go wrong with a crazy Spirit Slayer.
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:14 PM
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Ok...

You need Biowire first, which is a basic Echo, in order to get a TM skillwire system and allow yourself to emulate skillsofts.

Then you need to take Acceleration, which only affects meat-speeds.

If you want, you can then Overclock and then Mesh Reality so you end up with 4 meat-body actions that can be followed with 1 purely Matrix action.
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:16 PM
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What about a shark shape-shifter who remains in a fish tank, in shark form, at all times. He's a rigger. He has specially adapted rigger cacoons in various vehicles and drones that he operates. The fish tank he's in is made of clear ferrocrete so it has a pretty solid barrier rating.
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:21 PM
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Clear ferrocrete? Wouldn't that, idk, kill him? I could see some sort of reactive liquid that goes rigid when enough kinetic force is pushed on it. That could be pretty believable for the setting I think.
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:22 PM
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How does he get fed?
Or does he have the 'hospitalized' lifestyle?
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:22 PM
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clear ferrocrete fish bowl...full of salt water....
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:23 PM
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Burned Out Mage and Rocker
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (Laodicea @ Aug 27 2010, 07:22 AM) *
clear ferrocrete fish bowl...full of salt water....


OHHHHH That makes so much more sense! Lmao, I feel really special now but when I thought you were talking about a shark that could breathe concrete I imagined this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGQyMF5a_0
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (sabs @ Aug 27 2010, 09:22 AM) *
How does he get fed?
Or does he have the 'hospitalized' lifestyle?



Good question. I haven't worked out all the details yet. I'm sure there's a way to open his otherwise sealed fishbowl and throw some meat in it.
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (WyldKnight @ Aug 27 2010, 09:28 AM) *
OHHHHH That makes so much more sense! Lmao, I feel really special now but when I thought you were talking about a shark that could breathe concrete I imagined this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGQyMF5a_0

Ahhh, memories.
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (WyldKnight @ Aug 27 2010, 09:28 AM) *
OHHHHH That makes so much more sense! Lmao, I feel really special now but when I thought you were talking about a shark that could breathe concrete I imagined this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGQyMF5a_0



I was thinking more like the robots that use fish for their brains from the Ratchet & Clank videogames.
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Aug 27 2010, 03:14 PM) *
Ok...

You need Biowire first, which is a basic Echo, in order to get a TM skillwire system and allow yourself to emulate skillsofts.

Then you need to take Acceleration, which only affects meat-speeds.

If you want, you can then Overclock and then Mesh Reality so you end up with 4 meat-body actions that can be followed with 1 purely Matrix action.


All for the low, low price of 8 submersions!
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE (Johnny B. Good @ Aug 27 2010, 04:57 PM) *
All for the low, low price of 8 submersions!

low?

is that like saying if you're Mage is Initiate Level 8.. he's really mondo?
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (sabs @ Aug 27 2010, 03:58 PM) *
low?

is that like saying if your Mage is Initiate Level 8.. he's really mondo?


8 submersions is basically 8 mage initiations (So max magic / resonance of 14. That's on par with Dragons.)

Also: Sarcasm.

Also: Ohgod matrix Dragons.
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:03 PM
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Still
Sounds like a Troll technomancer with Acceleration and biowires.. could be amusing.
Though he'll suck compared to an equivalent Streetsam, or even an Adept.

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post Aug 27 2010, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (sabs @ Aug 27 2010, 08:03 AM) *
Still
Sounds like a Troll technomancer with Acceleration and biowires.. could be amusing.
Though he'll suck compared to an equivalent Streetsam, or even an Adept.


That is unless he drags their minds into the matrix and nukes them with a Blackhammer.

Anyways most of these characters would sorta suck for the most part. In fact I think you would have to run a game specifically for ill optimized builds for them to survive.
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:06 PM
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How about an Orc Security Guard with an additiction to porn(media junkie) (along with a co-processor so he can watch and still be on duty) with a cyber shotgun?

His name was Grog Ogrog.
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:07 PM
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lol
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Aug 27 2010, 08:06 AM) *
How about an Orc Security Guard with an additiction to porn(media junkie) (along with a co-processor so he can watch and still be on duty) with a cyber shotgun?

His name was Grog Ogrog.


*Cough* I did that once with a hacker/infiltrator build. He was actually stealth killing and watching porn at the same time. My GM awarded an extra point of Karma because that image was rather disturbing and made him giggle.
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (WyldKnight @ Aug 27 2010, 08:10 AM) *
*Cough* I did that once with a hacker/infiltrator build. He was actually stealth killing and watching porn at the same time. My GM awarded an extra point of Karma because that image was rather disturbing and made him giggle.


But was it getting him off. That's the really pertinent question. (No, it's really not, don't answer, lol)

Sadly, I can't take credit for him, it was my roommate the time who came up with it.

I did steal the cyber shotgun idea for my current character who is a former UCAS FBI agent, he's got cyber to the gills... but mostly for sensors and perception enhancements, along with some radar. Combat character he is not, really he's designed to prevent the group (composed of a lot of people who are new) from getting stuck by being able to find clues and the like.
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Aug 27 2010, 08:21 AM) *
But was it getting him off. That's the really pertinent question. (No, it's really not, don't answer, lol)


To late, yes it was. That was the disturbing part. Highlight would be using the monofilament garrote to kill someone and quietly saying "ya, thats hot." in a creepy voice while doing it. My Gm raised an eyebrow at me and I said "She finished as I was killing him." Suddenly I'm "that" guy haha. All of my characters are relatively well adjusted so I wanted to do crazy least once. I didn't expect it to freak em so much heh.

Quick question, how doable is a Drake Rigger? Its another odd build I thought of and was wondering if it's even feasible.
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (WyldKnight @ Aug 27 2010, 12:06 PM) *
That is unless he drags their minds into the matrix and nukes them with a Blackhammer.

Anyways most of these characters would sorta suck for the most part. In fact I think you would have to run a game specifically for ill optimized builds for them to survive.

His biggest advantage is that he would appear completely mundane to any technological scanners and to Assensing
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:44 PM
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Hmm, that is a very good point. Actually a combo techno wouldn't be THAT hard to make. You could probably make an effective infiltrator (whether physical or social) out of a TM if your willing to take the hit to your hacking abilities. Would probably have to use a few programs instead of CFs and make a huge use of sprites to make up for it but it would definitely be more flexible then a classic TM.
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