Face + ?, Looking for some advice Options

[Mooncrow]

So, for the first time in a really long time, I actually get to be a player again =) Here's the situation:

I'm the new guy, joining a group hat's been together a long time. We've played one session together though, and I think this may end up being, at least potentially, a long term thing.

I started off with a support mage/summoner (materialization)

the rest of the group: (as far as I know - we didn't pass around character sheets)

Combat Mage
PhysAd - melee
Mundane Hacker - planning on picking up some rigging when funds allow
BioSam - lots of guns
Robocop - yeah, really^^
Covert Ops - with some guns

With the combat mage there already, I felt a bit redundant, and now that I know the group, I feel a little more comfortable taking on a more visible role. I checked with the GM and he ok'd a rebuild. A Face seems like the obvious hole to fill, but since I have no interest in a pornomancer, I'm looking for a secondary support role to play.

Any suggestions? Build method is BP, 440 to start, all core books available.

Thank you for your time =)

[Makki]

big group. seems there will be loads of fighting. so lots of wounds. what about a face/healer? either a techie guy with some 'ware or magical with the "mystical healing" optional rule from augmentation. healing potions ftw!

[suoq]

You could do a mystic adept with Kinesics and a Charisma based tradition. If the combat mage isn't picking up the Clair* series, then you can face, recon, assessing support, and still handle yourself respectably in combat.

Edit following Makki: There's a lot of good support stuff in magical healing, including boosting everyone else's initiative passes if I recall.

[WyldKnight]

If you want to be magical I also support going mystic adept but a mysad face/caster is pretty point heavy as it is. If you go mundane face then it would easier to put points into being a doctor as well as being a bit of something else. Also some ware is better then magic. I made a Face/cyber sam with move by wire 2 outta the gate. With a good matrix contact pirating skillsofts is easy and makes you a skill monkey of sorts while still sticking to your role. If you go this route I advise getting the skillwire expert system so you can use edge to reroll failures.

[Yerameyahu]

Hacker is easy to combine, and they're the natural planner/leader/communicator. Do you only need one? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Mooncrow]

Hacker is easy to combine, and they're the natural planner/leader/communicator. Do you only need one? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Probably only need the one hacker, though a rigger might be doable.

And yeah, Wyld, the MysAd is crazy expensive; I just finished rolling one up to price it out - ouch...

[Yerameyahu]

What about 'maker'? There are a number of handy B/R (/create) skills that suit the thinking man (including, as above, medic). Also including software, mechanic, chemistry, armorer, forgery, etc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Does covert ops mean 'burglar', 'ninja', 'paratrooper', all of the above? Physical security is another nice Logic niche (not that a Face needs logic, but it's nice to combo it with 'Mastermind', like Leverage).

[WyldKnight]

Thats why mysads are best as a focused build. My mysad was a magical watch dog with heavy detection and counterspelling. If you still go face my advice is go easy on the adept powers if your GM allows you to take a power point instead of a metamagic, a force 4 power focus helps out a lot so mysad, restricted gear, power focus 4. Thats what I did and it made a whole lot of a difference. Also remember you can save that restricted gear or use it at chargen. Your choice.

[Irion]

Face is good to be combined with a shamen or a technomancer.
A Face should be able to pass by cyberware scanners. (If you can't explain this move by wire 3, you have a Problem)
To be a mage also makes it much more easier to infiltrate mage circles (so soon as you have aura masking).
(Shapechange alone is the one spell for faces I guess, if you have to make a get away.)
About mystic adapt+Face, I do not know. I guess it very depents on how much of the cheese with mystik adepts flys in your group. (And how much bonus you would get for assensing on the other hand)

[Mäx]

Here's a quick and rough build of MysAd Face with a smattering of spells to help in various situations.

[ Spoiler ]

Dryad

B 2(3)
A 3(4)
R 3(4)
S 2(3)
C 5
I 3
L 3
W 4

E 2

M 5(4)[2/2]

E 5,04

Recources:250k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)

Skills:
Influence (Group) 4
Athletics (Group) 1
Pistols (Semi-automatics) 2(+2)

Positive Qualities:
Mystic Adept (Tradition Shinto)
Restricted gear
Mentor spirit(Great Mother)

Negative Qualities:
In Debt (30000)
Allergy (Uncommon, Mild)

Adept Powers:
Kinesics 3
Linguistics
Sustenance

Spells:
Increase Reflexes
Heal
Antidote
Cure Disease
Detox
Bugs
Stunbolt
Fashion
Makeover

Ware:
Suprathyroid Gland
Vocal Range Enhancer
Synthacardium 3

Gear:
Healt Sustaining focus 3
Power focus 2

Still has 26 BP left to buy contacts or other stuff
And 58k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) left to buy gear with
Has 15 dice for social skills except intimidation

[Mooncrow]

Here's a quick and rough build of MysAd Face with a smattering of spells to help in various situations.

[ Spoiler ]

Dryad

B 2(3)
A 3(4)
R 3(4)
S 2(3)
C 5
I 3
L 3
W 4

E 2

M 5(4)[2/2]

E 5,04

Recources:250k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)

Skills:
Influence (Group) 4
Athletics (Group) 1
Pistols (Semi-automatics) 2(+2)

Positive Qualities:
Mystic Adept (Tradition Shinto)
Restricted gear
Mentor spirit(Great Mother)

Negative Qualities:
In Debt (30000)
Allergy (Uncommon, Mild)

Adept Powers:
Kinesics 3
Linguistics
Sustenance

Spells:
Increase Reflexes
Heal
Antidote
Cure Disease
Detox
Bugs
Stunbolt
Fashion
Makeover

Ware:
Suprathyroid Gland
Vocal Range Enhancer
Synthacardium 3

Gear:
Healt Sustaining focus 3
Power focus 2

Still has 26 BP left to buy contacts or other stuff
And 58k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) left to buy gear with
Has 15 dice for social skills except intimidation

Thank you for that =) I think with some tweaking around, this will be pretty close to what I end up using.

[Mäx]

Thank you for that =) I think with some tweaking around, this will be pretty close to what I end up using.

You can thank my at times boring unpaid practical training.

Edit: i can sent you/host online the excell chargen sheet with the build if you want.

[Mooncrow]

You can thank my at times boring unpaid practical training.

Edit: i can sent you/host online the excell chargen sheet with the build if you want.

Ah, thanks for the thought, but I had already put it into my spreadsheet by the time I saw your post =)

[sabs]

Where's that character's sorcery skill?

[HugeC]

With an ominous *poof*, the GM appears!

Hey man, just let me know your contacts; prolly won't come into play for our next session, but I'd like to try a sort of round-robin thing using the PC contacts as hooks for runs.

Are you looking at playing a dryad? I should warn you, a female character will get you some flak in that group. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I used to draw a lot, and when we were playing Marvel Superheroes, I had drawn a picture of this female hero and wanted to play her. I was pretty much mocked until I gave up the idea. Perhaps your resolve will be stronger than mine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

[Mooncrow]

With an ominous *poof*, the GM appears!

Hey man, just let me know your contacts; prolly won't come into play for our next session, but I'd like to try a sort of round-robin thing using the PC contacts as hooks for runs.

Are you looking at playing a dryad? I should warn you, a female character will get you some flak in that group. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I used to draw a lot, and when we were playing Marvel Superheroes, I had drawn a picture of this female hero and wanted to play her. I was pretty much mocked until I gave up the idea. Perhaps your resolve will be stronger than mine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

Heh, I was finishing the contacts list right before I saw this^^ I'll be emailing them within the hour =)

And no, I'm not really down with the dryad^^ I'll just be going with a baseline elf - thanks for the heads up though, good to keep in mind for the future (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)