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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 16-February 04 From: Ohio, USA Member No.: 6,083 ![]() |
Again if only the crew compartment is armored then a half capable attacker will have had their way with the passenger’s weather they want to kill or kid-nap the passengers long before helps arrive. If the drive train is not protected then armoring the passenger compartment does you very little. Give me a 9mm handgun and a stationary vehicle an attacker will eventually get through the bullet resistant widows. They can only take so many hit in the same spot. If the attacker has a heavier weapon it will take less shots to get through. Without mobility light armor only buys you a few seconds; with mobility light armor can by a lot of time. It make sense to protect all part of the vehicle to the same level of protection weather that be from handgun or 120mm HEAP rounds.
But I did find a company that does just armor the drive’s side window and door, and the back of the seat. They call it their road-rage package or their repo-man package http://texcaliburarmor.com/index.shtml Here is another company that does lightly armored vehicles. http://www.armormax.com/index.htm Nonetheless if I was going to buy an armored car it sure would have more armor then just the driver’s side door. Knowing my luck the bullet would miss the armor. That said I think the SR rules imply that that armor is for the entire vehicle and should reduce small arms damage for both the vehicle and the passenger. It should be treated just like personal body armor since it is accentually Kevlar and similar material layered under the normal exterior. The links to the above page have charts very similar to the threat level chart for bullet resistant body armor. mcb |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 ![]() |
I agree that it can be interpreteded that way.
But I still feel it is just to protect people, armored cars like money trucks are meant to be scary looking and be able to stop a bomb. Personal armored cars are meant to be driven by professional drivers/bodyguards. These professional drivers should be able to recognize a dangerous situations and get out of it. The drivers of the Presidents limo has to do a lot of training to be able to pull off a simple manuvere like the "J" turn in that iron tub, be a pro in a lightly armored car can get out of most situations that could be fatal. Most smallarms fire will be repelled by this armorand leave it manuverable enough to get the hell out of trouble, not stand there and fight. Just my opion, you will play it how you feel, nothing wrong with that. If they just named it something else, I think we may not be having this debate. You also have to look at economics, if I were to say offer a taxi service in this dangerous time that offered armored protection, it would not make sense business wiae to armor the whole car just the people. What is the cost of this stuff compared to the other armor, regular and concealed? With regular armor I see that as tanks and armored money trucks, concealed is what I think of when I think about waht you are describbing for presidents and such, personla armor I picture stopping car jackers from stealing the mini-van, not runnig a guantlet in Iraq. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 16-February 04 From: Ohio, USA Member No.: 6,083 ![]() |
Again you can't get out of the dangerous situation if they have shot hole in your engine or blown our your tires. Not to mention the engine compartment armor (usually layers of kevlar ) weighs next to nothing compared to the bullet resistant glass used in the crew compartment. The reason I say it covers the whole vehicle is that most present day armored cars and SUVs are fully armored and protected system. It would make sense to me that 60 years in the future that trend would continue if not becoming a higher percentage of armored vehicle being fully armored as armor components would get cheaper, lighter and better. Now this 'personal armor' is only designed to stop small arms attacks but it does covers the entire vehicle. A 50cal MG will make Swiss cheese of the average armored limo but the entire vehicle is armored. Some vehicles have protection only against Handgun and SMG rounds other protect up to armor piercing rifle ammo. You can by a variety of levels of protection but despite the level of protection this armor is usually applied to the entire vehicle, including the engine compartment, self-sealing gas tank and run flat tires. Check out the above links I posted you will see that most of those vehicles are fully protected. Not all are but it seem that the majority get the full protection. So from this research I extrapolated to SR that it covers the entire vehicle. Feel free to interpreter it differently. |
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