IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

2 Pages V   1 2 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Who I am as a gamer, Do I play myself?
Who are you as a gamer?
You cannot see the results of the poll until you have voted. Please login and cast your vote to see the results of this poll.
Total Votes: 96
Guests cannot vote 
Shadow
post Mar 7 2004, 01:54 AM
Post #1


Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill.
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 6,545
Joined: 26-February 02
From: Gloomy Boise Idaho
Member No.: 2,006



Feel free to post a different answer. I was told on a different board that when you played games it was no reflection as to who you are IRL. I feel that it is. I am curious to see what DSF thinks, since this is by far the most outstanding group of gamers I have ever met.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Kagetenshi
post Mar 7 2004, 01:56 AM
Post #2


Manus Celer Dei
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 17,006
Joined: 30-December 02
From: Boston
Member No.: 3,802



A really good roleplayer, a true actor, will be able to play someone who bears no relation to who they are IRL.

Most of us mere mortals, though, will have a lot of ourselves in the character as it is played, even if the personality sketch we hand the GM doesn't match us at all.

~J
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Solstice
post Mar 7 2004, 02:52 AM
Post #3


Moving Target
**

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 870
Joined: 6-January 04
From: Idaho
Member No.: 5,960



I've never been lucky enough to play with someone who doesn't play themselves as their characters. All character personalities are the same, cause the same people are playing them. My guess is there are very,very few people who can truely step outside themselves to play their characters personality all the time.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Kagetenshi
post Mar 7 2004, 02:59 AM
Post #4


Manus Celer Dei
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 17,006
Joined: 30-December 02
From: Boston
Member No.: 3,802



Few who can do it completely, at least. Dunno, give me a little while before each session to get into character and I might be able to pull it off, but it's hard work, especially with long sessions, and requires a lot of focus and not-breaking-character on the parts of everyone around the table. YMMV; this is my view as an actor and roleplayer.

~J
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Lily
post Mar 7 2004, 04:04 AM
Post #5


Target
*

Group: Members
Posts: 17
Joined: 28-March 03
Member No.: 4,351



Well, I think pretty much everybody creates a SR character out of some facet of their personality. Maybe a character is only vaguely like you IRL, but has a similar outlook on one thing or another. Maybe the character is all of a certain tiny bit of your personality (i.e. your inner tactician, or based soley on your ability to 'McGyver' your way out of a situation, or your geeky academic side) or maybe th character is based on something you always WISHED you could do (the super athlete or genius chemist). Maybe a character has your sensitivity to suffering or your same mystical side or keen wit. Nearly al RP-ers that I've met have characters that come from somewhere inside their own psyches. The trick to playing those characters and not making them all the same thing over and over again is to not let their similarity to whatever it is in the PLAYER rule the character's personality. A good player can RP a character who comes from inside their own head and have them only remotely resemble, if at all, their RL selves. Characters like that, when RP-ed correctly, ring very true and can develop into very interesting people once you get to know them.

Lily
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Johnny the Bull
post Mar 7 2004, 06:00 AM
Post #6


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 243
Joined: 26-February 02
From: Abu Dhabi
Member No.: 318



I only get to play once every 3 or 4 weeks, so I go to painstaking efforts to make sure I am not playing myself in different clothes. Everything must be different for me else I might as well be playing a board game or MMORPG.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Raptor1033
post Mar 7 2004, 07:04 AM
Post #7


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 203
Joined: 3-April 03
Member No.: 4,370



Most of my characters have ideals like mine, for some reason it's more fun for me that way. it's more natural to play something close to myself, when i try to make a character that's nothing like me it ceases being a fun, relaxing game and turns more into work. i play to relax and have fun, not test my limits on stepping outside of myself.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Hocus Pocus
post Mar 7 2004, 07:33 AM
Post #8


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 533
Joined: 26-February 02
From: In a hot tub, with lots of bubbles and champagne waiting for you.
Member No.: 1,972



when I played I'd make a character however I liked, but their personality invariably had me in it. None more so than your friendly neighborhood Hocus Pocus, he was my favorite of them all. Besides it's too hard being somebody else in a campagin game when all those voices in your head already want you to be somebody else.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Digital Heroin
post Mar 7 2004, 07:59 AM
Post #9


Neophyte Runner
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,458
Joined: 22-March 03
From: I am a figment of my own imagination.
Member No.: 4,302



I am not an emotionless killer, yet I play them. I am not a pyro, yet I've played them. I've played murderers, kidnappers, drug addicts, vandals, cop killers and plain freaked out psychos, yet thankfully I'm none of the above, nor am I inclined to be.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Panzergeist
post Mar 7 2004, 08:10 AM
Post #10


Running Target
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,362
Joined: 3-October 03
From: Poway, San Diego County, CA, USA
Member No.: 5,676



I'm shocked. What the hell is the point of role-playing if your character is just you with guns?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Cain
post Mar 7 2004, 08:28 AM
Post #11


Grand Master of Run-Fu
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 6,840
Joined: 26-February 02
From: Tir Tairngire
Member No.: 178



Lily's got it right. A good character will always be based on a facet of your own personality, yet magnified to such a degree as to not resemble you. Something that's too removed from you isn't going to be fun to play at all; but there's no point in playing yourself with guns.

Just playing yourself leads to the big-time no-no of roleplaying-- getting your worlds mixed up. I've seen far too many gamers go down that path, letting their worlds collide. It's not a pretty sight.

Not enough gamers have been hearing this recently, so I'm going to repeat it: gaming is only healthy as long as you can keep your realities apart. The moment you let that line blur, you're in all kinds of danger. If your in-game interactions are affecting your out-of-game relationships... put down your dice right away, and take a very long break.

I've seen too many friendships be lost because of in-game issues. Larpers can be the worst about this, but tabletoppers do it too-- I remember this huge falling out in a D&D group, because someone did something, and a 15th level mage died. It was years before everyone involved was speaking to each other again. Never, ever, forget that it's just a game; and never let your game dictate your reality.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Sphynx
post Mar 7 2004, 09:46 AM
Post #12


Neophyte Runner
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,222
Joined: 11-October 02
From: Netherlands and Belgium
Member No.: 3,437



I've had a discussion about this while talking to a Vampire-LARP Storyteller. The problem isn't that people don't want to play something else, it's that the GM doesn't sit with each player individually and create a background. Hell, I use to sit with players and help them work on getting a different 'accent' for their characters so they could even talk different. If you ask your players questions that are so simple like "Why are you in the Shadows?" "How did you discover them, get in?" "Where did you meet these contacts?" you begin to build a different person than the player. Then ask the next level of questions... "What do you do if/when...."

People play their own personalities because the other personality isn't fleshed out enough for them to visualize it. Only a GM is to blame for that.

Sphynx
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
toturi
post Mar 7 2004, 02:24 PM
Post #13


Canon Companion
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 8,021
Joined: 2-March 03
From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG
Member No.: 4,187



I do not play characters too different from myself. Just as I cannot realistically roleplay Adolf Hitler or Josef Stalin, I do not roleplay mass murderers or serial killers. Certain things are simply too alien.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
broho_pcp
post Mar 7 2004, 02:50 PM
Post #14


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 223
Joined: 3-February 04
Member No.: 6,054



While all my characters have obvious differences, many of them reflect my ethical beliefs. I rarely play evil characters or stupid characters (it is my ethical belief to not be stupid :D). That is more my fault at character creation than anything else. I usually forget to write up a good background and then in-game I don't know how my character would react; so I react like I would in real life. The most important thing in playing your character is to write a good background story and then create the character. Plus, before each session review your characters background and how your character will act.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
L.D
post Mar 7 2004, 04:21 PM
Post #15


Harlequin
**

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 331
Joined: 26-February 02
Member No.: 861



I'm missing a voting option: Both.

At times I do my best to create a character that's completely different from me, but other times I just create a character that feels right and if he bears any resemblance to me then I don't care about it.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Firewall
post Mar 7 2004, 05:02 PM
Post #16


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 313
Joined: 5-March 04
From: UK
Member No.: 6,125



As an actor-director, I would say that even actors are playing a part of themselves. No matter what character you play, you cannot become that character unless you understand them in some way. Most people play characters like themselves because they understand why they do the things they do.

When deciding "Do I kill that guard or not?", they have to look at what they know and who they are. Just because you kill him does not mean you would in real life though; in SR, life is worth less because there will always be new NPCs and the price of death is simply rolling a new runner.

For instance, an actor playing an addict looks to their own life. They draw on their own addictions; caffeine, nicotine, whatever. If you play a killer, you try to find that reason why you would kill someone. It helps if you have relevant life-experience, like when I played a cuckolded husband about a month after being cheated upon. (it is often terrifying to look back at how well you 'click' with some of the scarier types though...)

Perhaps I should do an article here or on my own website about basic method acting.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ShadowPhoenix
post Mar 7 2004, 05:27 PM
Post #17


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 255
Joined: 10-May 03
From: CB/Omaha Sprawl
Member No.: 4,568



When I play(which I never play SR :( I only GM it :( ) I usually take some small portion of my identity, and skew it and amplify it. I had a hitman for a SR and a WW game. my SR character was supersuave with all the mods that make him impress the ladies(increase pheremones, nice suits, etc.) in the White Wolf Game he was a vampire with dual .50's and a sniper rifle, charismatic, and very catholic, believed his vampirism a curse, which he tried to purge everyday.

I am neither a hitman, nor catholic, so both aspects of this character were far removed. but the sense of Justice and Conviction was mine, and the sense of style as well. :D
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Jari_Kafghan
post Mar 7 2004, 05:48 PM
Post #18


Target
*

Group: Members
Posts: 27
Joined: 26-February 02
Member No.: 1,703



I null voted. My characters are neither. They each express parts of me. But pnly one is an accuarte representation of who I am. I have played the range from a foolish orc with a good heart, to a stubborn justice loving dwarf, to a passifist troll. All of them have taken me time to adjust to letting that part of me come out in full, but eventually they all do and they stop acting like me.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Neon Tiger
post Mar 7 2004, 06:07 PM
Post #19


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 131
Joined: 1-April 02
From: Finland, Iisalmi
Member No.: 2,497



I guess many of my characters have some bits of my RL personality, but not that much really. And many characters are mostly completely different than me, like Maelstrom, the gekko shaman, a male chauvinist pig with horrible charisma and really arrogant and likes to call himself the "sorcery genius". Or Gato, my full cyborg troll merc, who doesn't give a frag about other people's lives. In RL, I tend to think about equality between sexes, I'm very modest guy and a Total Pacifist.

I think that because I'm me, playing myself as a character in a roleplaying game is very, very boring. So I'll rather play something completely different.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
lodestar
post Mar 7 2004, 10:05 PM
Post #20


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 424
Joined: 11-May 02
From: Marauding the mighty North Saskatchewan
Member No.: 2,720



I usually play characters that have similar traits that I do but modified for that character's particular circumstances. I have a hard time being immoral even in character or even when I play any games. Its just in my nature I guess, but It does add some challenge to it.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Aidley
post Mar 8 2004, 02:56 AM
Post #21


Target
*

Group: Members
Posts: 66
Joined: 22-January 04
Member No.: 6,005



I do both - pity that was not an option in the poll. oh well.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Phaeton
post Mar 8 2004, 01:55 PM
Post #22


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 973
Joined: 3-October 03
Member No.: 5,677



I'm lousy at staying in-character, no matter how hard I try. I'm improving, though. But no matter what I do, I seem to turn every character I play as into either a lunatic or a spastic freak. x_x
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Darkest Angel
post Mar 8 2004, 02:28 PM
Post #23


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 546
Joined: 26-February 02
From: Manchester, England
Member No.: 1,062



I don't know, I guess I try to make my characters different from me, but there's always going to be a part of me in there somewhere - afterall, everyone has their personal limits as to what is acceptable in game and what isn't.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Aidley
post Mar 8 2004, 03:05 PM
Post #24


Target
*

Group: Members
Posts: 66
Joined: 22-January 04
Member No.: 6,005



Shadow, you've inspired me.

never a good thing for a GM in training...

my group is going to hate me >;)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Talia Invierno
post Mar 8 2004, 03:40 PM
Post #25


Shooting Target
****

Group: Members
Posts: 1,677
Joined: 5-June 03
Member No.: 4,689



It's way old, but it's just something this thread reminded me of: Your characters reflections of yourself (Plastic Rat).

I'll follow up Lily and the (much!) earlier thread and go that step further: that it is impossible to play a character which is not psychologically rooted in some part of the personality (possibly the shadow!), because it is impossible to conceive within a mindset which is not in some part yours or something you want to become. It may well not be a recognised or accepted part of the personality, however. (Please note that I didn't say "physically" or "mystically" here! That's where the wish-fulfillment aspects most often seem to kick in.)

How often does backstory seem to focus solely on cause-and-effect event almost as though observed by an outside observer? To take one common Shadowrun example, killing matters - to the individual person and the victim+family, if to no one else. There are reasons we don't normally kill in most of our societies, and law constitutes only a very small fraction of those reasons. Even in situations of complete anarchy, even in wartime and in regions where 10% or more of the total population ended up dead (the case in several WWII countries and too many more recent): the vast majority of its people won't kill, and the vast majority of its people won't end up as killers. If you're playing a character who deals normally in wetwork, do you normally choose to examine not only who the first person the character ever killed was and why the character killed them - but how the character reacted, how the character felt ... and why the character kept right on killing and how each new death continues to make them react, think, feel? It's a very disturbing place to go, but going there won't turn you into a psycho case unless you were already unbalanced in the first place.

The default is often to actively avoid going too deeply into the character psyche, often by using the tactic of avoidance through extreme emphasis on tactics (and those curious variants on tactics, min-maxing and detailed canonical environment), for reasons which should be evident!

Cause-and-effect events, tactics, canonising, min-maxing are far, far easier.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

2 Pages V   1 2 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 19th April 2024 - 09:00 PM

Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.