Look ma!, AR glasses Options

[ProfGast]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11494729

Projector hooked up to a phone! Commlink + AR glasses much?

[SleepIncarnate]

Yes, because shining light into your eyes is a wonderful idea.

[ProfGast]

Yes, because shining light into your eyes is a wonderful idea.

How else do you suggest doing it? Our eyes, last I checked, are organs specifically designed to detect light.

SR AR is probably the same unless you project it directly into the brain through DNI. In which case you're sending electrical signals into the brain. Which is also probably not completely healthy.

[SleepIncarnate]

I always pictured it more as a holographic image coming up on the screen in SR, but they never do go much into detail about it. This is why I play TM's, not gonna go blind with AR here my friend.

[KarmaInferno]

Can you see anything right now?

Yes?

Guess what, light is shining into your eyes.




-k

[SleepIncarnate]

Yes, but the point I'm making is that shining a light directly into your eyes can also damage them. You know how they always tell you not to stare into the sun, or look into a laser pointer? That's this in action. Heck, even softer lights, like a flash light or LED light, can damage the eyes if pointed directly into the eye too long. Why do you think your eyes start to sting when someone shines a flashlight in your eyes? Shine a light, no matter how soft, directly into your eyes long enough and it will damage them. Our eyes work primarily based on indirect light, i.e. not looking into the source. But if someone were to wear and use those glasses on the level that people in SR use AR, well, you get the idea, they would start having vision problems.

[Mayhem_2006]

Shine a light, no matter how soft, directly into your eyes long enough and it will damage them.

No matter how soft? Really? REALLY?

I don't think you know wht you are talking about...

Incidentally, ever seen any evidence of actual eye damage caused by too much TV or too much computer time? Because, that, basically, is shining light into your eyes.

[SleepIncarnate]

Of being too close to it? Yes. Of course, every person's eyes are different, some people start losing eyesight from reading in dimly lit rooms, others don't. Some people stare into the sun regularly and are fine, others did it too much as a kid and always see spots now. But the reason your eyes start to hurt when you're too close to a source of light, or it's too bright, or too strong, is your body's way of telling you that's bad. Go put your face up to a TV or computer monitor (an actual older one, not the newer LCD flat panels) and see how long it takes until your eyes hurt. Or better yet, for a good comparison to how these glasses work, go stand in front of a projector.

[KarmaInferno]

Technically, pretty much all permanent damage to eyes from light is really from the ultraviolet or infrared components, or direct thermal heating.

If you can cut those out, the WORST that will happen is in cases of severely bright light you can get temporary retinal bleaching, but that will go away.

I have to assume the system in question does not, in fact, use "severely bright light".




-k

[hobgoblin]

While i would like for the screen to be transparent, so that one could really make use of AR overlays to reality, this is the smallest setup i have seen in years. Earlier versions have had big blogs stuck to the outside of the glasses in comparison.

And AR in SR can be many thing, physically. It can be piped directly to the brain via simsense (using trodes or a datajack). It can be displayed via contacts, glasses or goggles. Or it can be displayed via holo proejctors, trid or flat screen displays. All of that is AR in one shape or another.

What AR boils down to is not how it is displayed, but that the devices and information channels are location aware. That is, where your standing will have as much to say about the results of a data search as what you are searching for. Search for some product, and stores with it in stock may show up first. And sorted by proximity and price no less.

AR knows where you are, what your looking at, what you hear, maybe even what you smell or taste, and can automatically bring up data relevant to that. A rigger may have AR overlays while working on a drone or vehicle, telling him step by step what to do to get that part out (including things like floating animations and spoken instructions). This in comparison to say a fluid stained book of static images and text. He probably can take a step back, and give the vehicle a start command via AR as well, getting relevant data in real time about part performance for a multitude of sensors placed in relevant locations on top of the engine he is looking at.

[Mayhem_2006]

Of being too close to it? Yes. Of course, every person's eyes are different, some people start losing eyesight from reading in dimly lit rooms, others don't.
Some people stare into the sun regularly and are fine, others did it too much as a kid and always see spots now. But the reason your eyes start to hurt when you're too close to a source of light, or it's too bright, or too strong, is your body's way of telling you that's bad. Go put your face up to a TV or computer monitor (an actual older one, not the newer LCD flat panels) and see how long it takes until your eyes hurt. Or better yet, for a good comparison to how these glasses work, go stand in front of a projector.

MYTH: Reading in dim or poor light is harmful to your eyes, may ruin them, or may cause you to need eyeglasses.
TRUTH: Your eyes are not harmed by reading in dim light. They may get tired because of the extra effort it takes to see clearly, but no damage will occur.

MYTH: Prolonged viewing of computer screens damages your eyes.
TRUTH: There is no scientific evidence that any permanent damage to your eyes can occur in this way.

MYTH: Sitting too close to the TV set is bad for your eyes. To keep from damaging your eyes, view television is a dark room with only a small lamp on top of the set.
TRUTH: Whether the room is dark or lighted, or whether the light is in front of or behind you, is a matter of personal preference and comfort. It will not make any difference to the health of your eyes.

Excerpted from Taking Care of Your Eyes: A Collection of the Patient Education Handouts Used by America's Leading Eye Doctors. Triad Communications. Inc.

[nezumi]

What's really dangerous is shining light out from your eyes. (Bet you can't find an faq debunking that.)

My wife points out that just what we need is people doing AR while they're driving. I think this technology should perhaps be put on the back burner until we get smarter cars.

[hobgoblin]

Depends, if it provides data relevant to the driving, it would pretty much behave like the HMD of a modern fighter jet. Consider if it was linked into some kind of IR or radar in the front of the car, to provide assistance in poor visibility scenarios.

[Christian Lafay]

Or if it was hooked up to a GPS thingamajig to draw the line on the road in front of you. No more having the GPS blocking a part of your windshield or having to try and eye it out the corner of your eye. Wasn't there a car that tried a HUD awhile back? With night vision and everything?

[hobgoblin]

I know a recent Mercedes, or similar, has a IR camera and a screen in the dash, don't know about a hud tho.

Even having road lines projected in ones field of view, especially at winter, could be highly useful.

[Fyndhal]

Yes, but the point I'm making is that shining a light directly into your eyes can also damage them. You know how they always tell you not to stare into the sun, or look into a laser pointer? That's this in action. Heck, even softer lights, like a flash light or LED light, can damage the eyes if pointed directly into the eye too long. Why do you think your eyes start to sting when someone shines a flashlight in your eyes? Shine a light, no matter how soft, directly into your eyes long enough and it will damage them. Our eyes work primarily based on indirect light, i.e. not looking into the source. But if someone were to wear and use those glasses on the level that people in SR use AR, well, you get the idea, they would start having vision problems.

Thus creating a market for Cybereyes. I fail to see how Aztechnology or Saeder-Krupp would find this a problem. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[hobgoblin]

only to find that the implants have side effects of their own (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Dakka Dakka]

only to find that the implants have side effects of their own (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

From which they can profit again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[Mayhem_2006]

From which they can profit again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

By selling you anti-rejection drugs.

Which also have side effects...

[nezumi]

Depends, if it provides data relevant to the driving, it would pretty much behave like the HMD of a modern fighter jet. Consider if it was linked into some kind of IR or radar in the front of the car, to provide assistance in poor visibility scenarios.

Regardless, as long as it has the ability to IM and watch porn, you know what they'll be focusing on.

[hobgoblin]

Regardless, as long as it has the ability to IM and watch porn, you know what they'll be focusing on.

That's why i welcome the self-driving car.

[Christian Lafay]

Regardless, as long as it has the ability to IM and watch porn, you know what they'll be focusing on.

Darwinism strikes again!

[Mr. Mage]

I read through all these posts and notice so many people debating about the health aspects and possible dangers of such technology, and all I can think is " I WISH I WERE IN JAPAN RIGHT NOW!"

and just a note to everyone who thinks this will cause health problems: It might, but so do cigarettes, and they're still here...

[hobgoblin]

I read through all these posts and notice so many people debating about the health aspects and possible dangers of such technology, and all I can think is " I WISH I WERE IN JAPAN RIGHT NOW!"

meh, i would settle for more of the world turning akihabara.

and just a note to everyone who thinks this will cause health problems: It might, but so do cigarettes, and they're still here...

And if it was not for the deep pockets of the industry, would have been banned as a useless health risk long ago.

[Sesix]

What's really dangerous is shining light out from your eyes. (Bet you can't find an faq debunking that.)

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