Weapons for the wee lads, Pixie weapons Options

[KarmaInferno]

There are a select few nations and corps that offer citizen-level SINs to pixies.


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[Stingray]

There are a select few nations and corps that offer citizen-level SINs to pixies.


-k

yes,very very few..

[Irion]

Well, yes pixies need more Energy per pound. But they do have less pounds to sustain.

A pixies is is about 0.5 meters. Thats one 1/4 of a human. This means her weight is 1/64 to 1/16 of a human.
So if a pixie would need about the same amount of food, she would probably burst into flames. (Or she would need to live in an refrigerator)
So if a pixie would need 1/3 of the food of a human it would still be pretty much. Still this would cut the cost of living big time.

[Doc Chase]

Well, yes pixies need more Energy per pound. But they do have less pounds to sustain.

A pixies is is about 0.5 meters. Thats one 1/4 of a human. This means her weight is 1/64 to 1/16 of a human.
So if a pixie would need about the same amount of food, she would probably burst into flames. (Or she would need to live in an refrigerator)
So if a pixie would need 1/3 of the food of a human it would still be pretty much. Still this would cut the cost of living big time.

Hummingbirds don't burst into flames.

[AStarshipforAnts]

I'd say go for the 150% cost, and bump the damage on the weapons down a notch or two. A pixie-sized gun is going to use a much smaller bullet. A pixie-sized sword would be more like a very sharp letter-opener, etc.

[Yerameyahu]

Right, but that gets us into the D&D weapon size problem (horrific). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) It's easier to just limit them to the smaller things (hold-outs, knives), with the required size modifications.

[Irion]

First of all hummingbirds are very, very efficient.
2g of nectar (sugar) for 800 km of flight! (Bodymass around 1.8 to 44g)
So lets take 30g. This would mean a human (70kg) would just have (1.8 would mean 318888)
3.5 kg of sugar for the same way. Well, guess what. You won't make it. (would be around 14000 kcal)
Guess what, with a bike you would need around 30.000. (Tour de France) So this bird is around twice as efficent as a human or if you go down to the minimum 10 times less. (But you could to this (purly theoretically calculation with a lighter human are possible too)

The point is, you can not compare "does nothing" to "moves every freaking second".

A human performing on the same level as a hummingbird would need even more energy. (The energy hast to be brought to the muscles )
This would be not possibly not only by biology(we are unable to process that fast) but also by simple physics. We would "overhead" very fast.

[Marcus]

Right, but that gets us into the D&D weapon size problem (horrific). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) It's easier to just limit them to the smaller things (hold-outs, knives), with the required size modifications.

Honestly it really doesn't matter, Spells don't have a size, nor do adept Fist powers nor do Non-Weapon Foci. Its not like it hard to make a pixie completely dangerous without ever picking up a gun. I mean they can have a base drain resistance pool of 14 right out of the box No problem.
I drew up my perspective pixie build and was just scared how much of a BA caster they could be.

[Yerameyahu]

Certainly. It's not purely a question of pixies being stupid-broken, but of the little buggers ruining the immersion if they have giant guns and swords. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Doc Chase]

First of all hummingbirds are very, very efficient.
2g of nectar (sugar) for 800 km of flight! (Bodymass around 1.8 to 44g)
So lets take 30g. This would mean a human (70kg) would just have (1.8 would mean 318888)
3.5 kg of sugar for the same way. Well, guess what. You won't make it. (would be around 14000 kcal)
Guess what, with a bike you would need around 30.000. (Tour de France) So this bird is around twice as efficent as a human or if you go down to the minimum 10 times less. (But you could to this (purly theoretically calculation with a lighter human are possible too)

The point is, you can not compare "does nothing" to "moves every freaking second".

A human performing on the same level as a hummingbird would need even more energy. (The energy hast to be brought to the muscles )
This would be not possibly not only by biology(we are unable to process that fast) but also by simple physics. We would "overhead" very fast.

We've also established that pixies aren't human. They disappear when they die, even.

[Yerameyahu]

Do we really have to constantly repeat it? You know the rule: SR sneers at your armchair 'realistic science'!

[Doc Chase]

Do we really have to constantly repeat it? You know the rule: SR sneers at your armchair 'realistic science'!

Food/booze fuels pixie magic. ergo, 150% lifestyle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Yerameyahu]

Exactly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[AStarshipforAnts]

Right, but that gets us into the D&D weapon size problem (horrific). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) It's easier to just limit them to the smaller things (hold-outs, knives), with the required size modifications.

Fair enough. The idea of a pixie trying to handle a rocket launcher is a bit too ridiculous. It does make sense to limit what they can use by hand, period.

Food/booze fuels pixie magic. ergo, 150% lifestyle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

All those clams, man. It adds up.

[Irion]

Well, I guess the Idea of a pixie shooting a rocket launcher is less ridiculous then the idea of a pixie eating twice to three times as much as a troll.
Because, well I can not tell how strong they are.
Well and since they are able to use their "magic" to fly (which just means they are able to have a magical force compensate the reaction of the weapon fired), it is possible to explain it somehow with the background.

It still would remind me of some cartoons (or animes). But the eating would bring Shadowrun to the level of the Looney Toons.

Really, sometimes I question the sanity of some people. Bring up the argument, that a small creature should not be able to wield heavy weapons, and then this small creature should eat for three trolls. (Or more close to ten)
As a matter of fact, this would end up to a pixie starving to death if she does not eat every second or a pixie beeing able to just eat up a lion in a matter of seconds. (comparable to nibbler, for those who know futurama)

[Ascalaphus]

Could you make Nibbler with SURGE?

[Mäx]

Really, sometimes I question the sanity of some people. Bring up the argument, that a small creature should not be able to wield heavy weapons, and then this small creature should eat for three trolls. (Or more close to ten)

Where do you get this "should eat for 3 Trolls" think from, because the lifestyle adjustment sure as frak isn't about them needing more foot.

[Irion]

This was the explaination given.
So what would be a reasonable cause for the increase?
Living space is right out, furniture is one of the few possibilites. But as a matter of facts, there is just no fitting furniture. So the pixies will have to get along with the metahuman stuff. They will use open shelfs to store things, rather then cupbords. They will have the small sized version of everything, if possible.
The reason why they do not run into real problems is their ability to fly. Imagine not beeing able to reach the top shelfs at all.

A pixie (if she can not cast levitat) would have a major problem rearranging her furniture.

[Ascalaphus]

Dollhouse furniture isn't really significantly more expensive than real-people furniture anyway.

Maybe they need more NERPS?

[Makki]

A pixie (if she can not cast levitat) would have a major problem rearranging her furniture.

maybe she can summon a spirit and ask it for help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
But their are enough plastic children furniture to choose from and order at toys'r'us. IF you're a loner or all your friend are other pixies. else you need some real stuff too.

the only thing I can see, is custom tailored clothing...

[AStarshipforAnts]

I played in a game where one of the other PCs played a pixie character. And we all pretty much agreed that the extra cost came from the character needing actual food, not soy crap. There was even a group-fiat that he needed to eat actual produce, honey, flowers, etc. I imagine the cost of those would be huge in 2072. But, yeah, custom-tailored clothes, armor, etc. A pixie-sized Armani suit? Maybe it requires less materials. But, the workmanship? Stunning.

[Makki]

I thought so, too, real grown food. I'd use advanced lifestyle rules.
Necessities low, because you don't need any room, then add the Homegrown Farming quality to it. And some Agriculture Knowledge skill for the fun

[Yerameyahu]

That's a good idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's good to make pixies more different. Why don't they have automatic pollution allergies, for example? At least shifters have (in animal form) been around all this time.

[Makki]

Pixie
30 BP

BOD 1/3 (5)
AGI 3/8 (12
REA 3/8 (12)
STR 1/3 (5)
CHA 3/8 (12)
INT 2/7 (10)
LOG 1/6 (9)
WIL 3/8 (12)
MAG 1/6
EDGE 1/5

Powers: Concealment (Self Only), Enhanced Senses (Astral Perception), Sapience
Weaknesses: Vanishing, Uneducated, Dietary Requirement (Natural grown food), Fragile (1), Reach -1

[AStarshipforAnts]

That's a good idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's good to make pixies more different. Why don't they have automatic pollution allergies, for example? At least shifters have (in animal form) been around all this time.

Makes sense. And, their medical care costs would be much higher. Someone would have to crunch the numbers on drug dosage every single time they wanted something.

The pixie in question also had a problem with banking in general. He didn't quite get the concept, and often hid his credsticks around like a squirrel burying nuts. So no one ever had a good idea of how much money he had, including him. So, that was another one of his huge money sinks.