[X] My Assistant

[nezumi]

Yes. Fortunately, if you fight against Legion, your karma will most likely be so high that stealing a few odds and ends won't be an issue (and if you side with the Legion, you probably don't rightly care).

[X-Kalibur]

That Gun is like This Machine, pared down to one hand.

Well, if we really want to get into specifics here... and I do...

Originally in Fallout there was only one "that gun" which was a reward from a farmer for clearing out his house of raiders. It fired .223 rounds and was supposedly a pared down hunting rifle (which were .223s as well until New Vegas, where they became .308s and Fallout 3 where they were... .38s or something retarded).

Fallout 2 you could just find the damn things on merchants, they may have even been dropped by higher level encounters.

Fallout 3 - missing. Apparently people complained about "that gun" not being in the game. Personally, I hate that name for it, I always called it the .223 pistol.

More on topic now, in New Vegas we have "that gun" which is a .223/5.56 pistol and "this machine" which is an M1 Garand which fires .308/7.62 so really and truly, no, "That Gun" is not at all related to "This Machine".

All that said and done, I wish That Gun was more powerful, aside from the Gauss pistol in Fallout 2 it was the strongest projectile handgun.

[Wounded Ronin]

I remember the .223 pistol from Fallout. It was ridiculously powerful for what it was. In real life it would have bden totally impractical but in that game it was practically your only hope later in the game if your only combat skill was small guns. That was in Fallout 1 where you had to defeat multiple super mutants where you needed an eyeball critical to kill one but one hit anywhere from an energy weapon would kill you. I remember maxing out small guns and opening fire with the .223 pistol from really far away. Like, I scrolled the screen from really far away. And you didn't want to cheese with power armor metagaming in Fallout 2.

[Backgammon]

I'm doing my second playthrough, in the first finishing the game as "independant" Vegas.

So for my second playthrough I thought I'd try to side with the Legion.

God dammit, the game makes it ridiculously hard for you to want to do any other ending than independant vegas. The Legion are seriously losers. They are not portrayed as a viable "evil" choice. Plus every character you talk to basically hints that you should go with free vegas. It's a shame they put so much effort into giving choices only to make it obvious what your choice should be. Looks like you had 2 sets of designers working on the game.

[Tanegar]

[ Spoiler ]

Is there any way to keep Bryce Anders (the NCR Ranger in Vault 3) alive if you take him with you to kill Motor-Runner? The guy is a glass... well, not even a glass cannon, more like a glass pea-shooter. He's only got a knife, and the Fiends pop his head right off quicker than I can pop theirs.

[Faraday]

Tonight, things I've learned:
1. Do not feed the deathclaws.
2. Do not feed the radscoprions.
3. Stealing NCR armor is handy.
4. Look up Marty Robbins some time.

About what level should one attempt to root out that deathclaw nest by Sloan? (If ever)

[hobgoblin]

around 15 i think, as then there are some armor reduction/bypass perks unlocked.

Or bulk up so that you do not get any reductions on the heavy weapons...

[Wounded Ronin]

Lack of turpentine causes me rage. I've been carrying around like 11 gecko hides since the beginning of the game just waiting to get enough turpentine to tan them.

[Tiralee]

Serria Madrie Expansion Pack!

First of all - it's made of pain and hurt and fear.

Second of all, level cap to 35 (THANK the Vault!)

Third of all: "Recommended that the courier be level 20 before beginning." Try 30. And for god's sake, be a superhuman if you're doing it hardcore.


Ok, mid-way through the entire thing and I have to say it's a LOT better than every other DLC F3's had (apart from Zeta) due to the sheer unpleasantness of it all. It's NOT kind. Spoilers will follow in the new thread, only click if you want to make things a lot less nasty for yourselves.

Abraxo Cleaner FTW!

[Tanegar]

OK, will someone please explain to me how Legionaries can stand up to multiple direct hits with a plasma rifle? Granted, my skill isn't the greatest, but it's still a blast of superheated ionized gas.

[Tiralee]

Because they're MEN, and MEN shrug off things like superheated ionized gas, especially if their main meals are designed around lentils.

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Tir.

[Faraday]

Note to self: Save stealth boys for raiding shops.

Made off with thousands of caps worth of gear (from silver rush) with one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[KarmaInferno]

Huh. I just picked up all the gear from the Silver Rush (pick up, not take), carried it over to the bathroom where nobody can see me, and then took the items with no problems. The people there didn't seem to notice I never came back with the product that I was, er, test driving.

The metal pot upstairs helps with the little fiddly stuff like energy cells.



-k

[nezumi]

Note to self: Save stealth boys for raiding shops.

Made off with thousands of caps worth of gear (from silver rush) with one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I just paid for everything with Massacre Express - for everything you need.

(Not on purpose. I'm just terrible at following instructions.)

[Wounded Ronin]

OK, will someone please explain to me how Legionaries can stand up to multiple direct hits with a plasma rifle? Granted, my skill isn't the greatest, but it's still a blast of superheated ionized gas.

The same reason that just about anyone can soak a 9mm headshot?

[Wounded Ronin]

I am enjoying the game a lot. I am planning to take a day trip to the real Goodsprings to see the school house. I found out that the Goodsprings school house is a real schoolhouse and the oldest one in the state of Nevada. Much like in Fallout I will carry many bottles of purified water with me when I go.

I feel that Hardcore mode could be more hardcore. In real life, if I'm doing stuff outdoors in Nevada, I would need to drink a lot more water than is being portrayed in the game. I'd also need to rest and sleep a lot more, get rest in the shade more, and so forth. Of course you don't want to go overboard in a role playing game, but at least they could make your H2O go up faster.

I'm still stoked about reloading at reloading benches. Just about everyone I know who really lives in Nevada, and who does shooting sports regularly, also reloads. Reloading was the perfect way to get into a Western theme in my opinion. Lots of those guys don't necessarily have a lot of money so reloading is the only way they can shoot enough to get really good. Also, if you exclusively shoot low powered LRN cartridges you pretty much drastically reduce wear and tear on your barrel and your firearm life will be greatly extended. I feel like this game really managed to get some cultural education in about firearms regarding reloading, and even different cartridge types, such as +P loads, and so on.

[kanislatrans]

[ Spoiler ]

Is there any way to keep Bryce Anders (the NCR Ranger in Vault 3) alive if you take him with you to kill Motor-Runner? The guy is a glass... well, not even a glass cannon, more like a glass pea-shooter. He's only got a knife, and the Fiends pop his head right off quicker than I can pop theirs.

[ Spoiler ]

Had similar problems. found that if you rush in to the room and slide to the right side of MR before he makes his speech and then VATS him repeatedly with headshots works about 2/3 of the time...just save before you enter cause the ranger also is going to rush MR and get hacked with the chainsaw...focus on BEG and ignore the dogs. I had Veronica along with the Pushy powerfist and she took the dogs down no prob. still lost Ranger Rick twice though...you think with all that Ranger training he would know not to rush a guy holding a chainsaw..*grin*d also I din't pick him up until I had cleared the floor of hostiles..

[Tanegar]

Where are you finding .308 ammo? I'm virtually awash in microfusion cells at level 13 (1300+), but I don't think I've ever had more than a dozen rounds of .308 at a time.

[Doc Chase]

The Legion, if you could believe it. Cottonwood Cove is awash in Hunting Rifles and ammunition for such.

I was usually buying it at the Gun Runners as well. Once I had enough casings, I tended to reload my own to keep the streak going.

[X-Kalibur]

Check out Contreras at McCarran as well. My gf walked into his "shop" last night and he had around 1500 .308 rounds, 1300 12.7 rounds, and countless 5.56 and a good amount of 45-70 gov't.

[Backgammon]

I just paid for everything with Massacre Express - for everything you need.

(Not on purpose. I'm just terrible at following instructions.)

I put Harding in charge of the brotherhood, and what he asks you to become a member of the Brotherhood is to wipe out the Van Graffs (also, did everyone hear what Whatshername, the chick from the brotherhood, says when you walk into van Graffs for the first time? Hilarious).

Anyway, Harding says go kill them all, I'll send some men to recuperate the gear. I really wish there had been a dialogue option to say what I instantly thought - "Don't bother"

[KarmaInferno]

http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20101029




-k

[Stahlseele]

I put Harding in charge of the brotherhood, and what he asks you to become a member of the Brotherhood is to wipe out the Van Graffs (also, did everyone hear what Whatshername, the chick from the brotherhood, says when you walk into van Graffs for the first time? Hilarious).

Anyway, Harding says go kill them all, I'll send some men to recuperate the gear. I really wish there had been a dialogue option to say what I instantly thought - "Don't bother"

What she says is actually part of starting her personal quest . . which is pretty much fucked up <.<
furthermore the van graffs factor into the rose of cassidy personal quest too.

[StealthSigma]

God dammit, the game makes it ridiculously hard for you to want to do any other ending than independant vegas. The Legion are seriously losers. They are not portrayed as a viable "evil" choice. Plus every character you talk to basically hints that you should go with free vegas. It's a shame they put so much effort into giving choices only to make it obvious what your choice should be. Looks like you had 2 sets of designers working on the game.

The true viable "evil" choice in New Vegas is to take on the mantel of The Defiler and destroy all living (and some non-living) things in your path.

[Doc Chase]

The true viable "evil" choice in New Vegas is to take on the mantel of The Defiler and destroy all living (and some non-living) things in your path.

"Caesar's vision was flawed. He wanted to impose order."