LSD dipped slugs, WTF, those crazy players Options

[Yerameyahu]

Heh. You'd think open wounds wound be source enough for infection, no flavoring required.

[Doc Chase]

You can always season to taste. This was France, after all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[The Shuhite]

it also helps that onions pretty much always have lots of mold and yeast on them

[TheScrivener]

Yeah, keep in mind these were onions in open sacks in muddy trenches. Plus onions are pretty ridiculous tubers, they basically turn to acid on exposure to air, hence the eye irritation used to mask crying in so many sitcoms. Probably worse than salt for an open wound - of course who knows how effective it was, most infantry in WWI didn't see the people they were shooting at half the time, much less after their target was dragged away wounded.

[PBTHHHHT]

Yeah, keep in mind these were onions in open sacks in muddy trenches. Plus onions are pretty ridiculous tubers, they basically turn to acid on exposure to air, hence the eye irritation used to mask crying in so many sitcoms. Probably worse than salt for an open wound - of course who knows how effective it was, most infantry in WWI didn't see the people they were shooting at half the time, much less after their target was dragged away wounded.

Yeah, I feel like it was something someone came up with while bored in the trenches and they wanted to do something with the moldy onions. The trench environment was bad enough to die without even being shot, so someone getting shot in that environment... eh, I don't think the addition of onions would have added much at all.

[Doc Chase]

Heh.

"I might be starving, but lets put our bullets in the onions instead of the onions in our bellies!"

Only in war.

[sabs]

What makes you think they didn't also eat said onions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Doc Chase]

I personally wouldn't want an onion I stuck a bullet into. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[sabs]

You've never been in the trenches, sleeping in mud for a week+ straight and not had anything to eat in 2 days either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Doc Chase]

Thankfully no, though I've tromped through the desert for a few days with enough weight on my ruck to seriously reconsider what I was doing - and I wouldn't stick a round in my food before eating it then, either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Dwight]

Heh.

"I might be starving, but lets put our bullets in the onions instead of the onions in our bellies!"

Only in war.

Assuming the onion thing happened (I'd like a reference/Snopes for this, it could be a confusion with some of the chem warfare that could create an onionish smell) I'd guess they'd have been using the crappy onions that had gone at least partially bad (mouldy, mushy). Maybe they were thinking that corroding the slug with the acid would increase the [already insanely high] chance of infection/tetanus, the Rusty Spoon Principle? LOL Or trying to chemically score the jackets to return to the days of dum-dums? But would you really want to purposely put a heavily corroded round into your weapon to fire? It all sounds rather futile and superstition...which I guess could still be in line with general public's medical knowledge of the time.

@Shrike30

As per my sig I've left the SR ammo rules madness behind. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Although any softpoint ammo does poorly against armor, it still does something against thin barriers like windows and such. Keep in mind that the rules allow for purposeful destruction of cover, and many types of concealment, which isn't going to work with squirt guns.

P.S. One positive outcome of this discussion is that I'm actually now crafting proper rules entries for darts/squirts/paintballs, including expressly forbidding the Negate Cover action for some things and having the numbers be Hail Marys for the others. Prior even tazers were sort of adhoc, I'm going to proper framework for Tests to try inflict and then resist their nervous system damage like that. I think you were on with the requirement to inflict flesh puncture levels of damage.

[Stahlseele]

poor some of the drug into the barrel of the gun, fire, repeat?
would this work? probably only for one bullet, if it was sticky enough to not be left in the dirt while the bullet goes flying.

[Doc Chase]

poor some of the drug into the barrel of the gun, fire, repeat?
would this work? probably only for one bullet, if it was sticky enough to not be left in the dirt while the bullet goes flying.

I wouldn't fuck up a barrel like that. It's inviting early wear, not to mention possible plugging. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Dragonscript]

I've been looking for a link for the smash bullets into onions during WWI but i've been unable to find anything, and a couple sites have suggested that onions may in fact be used to prevent infections. Like i said before, i don't remember where i heard that from or even if it was true or BS.

http://www.ehow.com/list_5791898_dangers-onions-dogs_.html

They are poisonous to dogs though.


Another possibility is rat poison, of which there has been a couple reports of suicide bombers putting rat poison in bombs for the anticoagulant affect, but those reports have not been verified or in some cases dis-proven.

[Doc Chase]

According to Snopes, the pH balance of an onion only increases the imbalance that mayonnaise puts in a salad - which is why either aren't as serious for infection. Cut onions, certainly as the outer layer is what protects it (and you) from infection. Most outbreaks are associated with green onions which we eat whole instead of peeling. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[sabs]

If yuo want a anti-coagulant, I recommend Garlic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Doc Chase]

If yuo want a anti-coagulant, I recommend Garlic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I recommend the blood of hemophiliac orphans. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[TheScrivener]

This kind of inspires me- there could easily be an urban legend of some gang who doses all their bullets with LSD, which might have an odd placebo effect on their victims. "If you go up against the Kacophony Klub, you might get shot with one of their dose-slugs! One graze and you'll trip for days!"

[Dwight]

I recommend the blood of hemophiliac orphans. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Doctors recommend the slightly less morally questionable warfarin and heparin. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Dwight]

This kind of inspires me- there could easily be an urban legend of some gang who doses all their bullets with LSD, which might have an odd placebo effect on their victims. "If you go up against the Kacophony Klub, you might get shot with one of their dose-slugs! One graze and you'll trip for days!"

That's roughly my thinking, having some crazy banger gang doing this. It's not particularly effective outside of the psyops thing.

[Ascalaphus]

I still think the mechanical effect would be negligible, but the street cred value could still be there. Makes me think of the guy in Brotherhood of the Wolf who uses silver bullets because he wants people to know he was the one shooting them.

[Shrike30]

The only reason i think there might actually be a mechanical effect (although not necessarily one that'll kick in during your average firefight) is the incredibly low dosage required for LSD to do it's thing. It's measured in micrograms.