Cataclysm, WOW expansion Options

[Hocus Pocus]

jiminey crickets! no thread yet for this event?? and you call yourseles dorky, virgin nerds...for shame!

I'm still in contact with some of my old guildies. I told them I'm planing on coming back for Cat, but they suggested I come back now to not miss the events leading up to release and to also familiarize myself with the changes to talents. I hadn't thought of that and started to look into the changes via EJ and other forums and it seems like they are redesigning a thing or two.


Thoughts?


I do miss the guys ever since i stopped playing. The guild leader was one of the people i've been in contact with and when I told him I was planing on coming back he told the rest of the guild and they all e-mailed me telling me to come now, among other things, har! those silly SOBs.

[Doc Chase]

Do so.

Patch 4.0.1 dropped about two weeks ago, changing all of the class mechanics to the Cataclysm standard over what was there before. Everyone had to learn how to play their classes again (and resto druids became incredibly OP).

Other Cata talk was in the WOTLK thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) I don't see the need of preordering, but the street date is the day finals start. -.-

[Hocus Pocus]

relearning how to play class, bleh, hopefully others will get the basics down and post them online.

I've started downloading the patch, been about 4 hours and I'm only at 11%. ugh.


skip finals and play Cat.

[Doc Chase]

Would if I could. I've got four 80's to get to 85, a Worgen Warrior, and a Dwarf Shaman to play. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Hocus Pocus]

i planed on making a dwarf shamen as well as a worgen hunter

also have 4 80s. i dunno how you level, but i won't be in a rush to get to 85 even though before I left wow my guildies were saying they wanted to race to that number. I should think I would like to relax and enjoy the leveling. Part and parcel kinda why i left was the amount of time having to put into the end game raids, it was looking like the guild was moving more to a hardcore raiding guild from a casual one. I dunno if that has changed or not in the months I've been gone.

[Doc Chase]

i planed on making a dwarf shamen as well as a worgen hunter

also have 4 80s. i dunno how you level, but i won't be in a rush to get to 85 even though before I left wow my guildies were saying they wanted to race to that number. I should think I would like to relax and enjoy the leveling. Part and parcel kinda why i left was the amount of time having to put into the end game raids, it was looking like the guild was moving more to a hardcore raiding guild from a casual one. I dunno if that has changed or not in the months I've been gone.

I have a levelling partner that I'm actually sticking with this time around, though as an experiment I'm going to see if my resto druid can flower-pick his way to 85.

There's been substantial RaidID changes - you aren't saved by dungeon anymore, but by boss. You can now raid, snag one guy, raid with a different group to get someone else completely, and return to the original set to keep going (save that one guy you downed). It increases flexibility on renewing ID's, but at the same time it does kill some parties who had 25-man heroic raiders slumming it with 10-man regular raiders.

[Hocus Pocus]

had a leveling partner for vanilla. She was a 6th grader of all people, but one of the best players I've ever played with.

great on the raid changes, looks like the raids can be spread out more mayhaps instead of one or two 4+ hours days.


80 percent on the download...entering the home stretch.

[MortVent]

I'm likely going to let my account expire for a bit, and rejoin after the new year when things settle down with work.

plus gives the newbie areas for worgens and the like to clear out, if I do keep up the account it's just going to be to log in and do researches on my scribe.

[Hocus Pocus]

welps. i've returned to WOW a few days ago. good to see old friends still there.

less pts in talents. and can't spec into others until you get 31 in your main

learn glyphs. nice for us but me thinks inscriptionis are not happy

getting rotations down isn't too hard

in a few weeks it all changes again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Doc Chase]

Are you kidding? Scribes are ecstatic because the market on glyphs just skyrocketed. What was 2g is now 100.

[Doc Chase]

Are you kidding? Scribes are ecstatic because the market on glyphs just skyrocketed. What was 2g is now 100.

[MortVent]

Are you kidding? Scribes are ecstatic because the market on glyphs just skyrocketed. What was 2g is now 100.

Actually only on some servers, others many rolled their own scribes (like me) due to the raised prices even if we don't have all the recipies we can trade a few here and there to get the ones we need for out alts.

when you have alt-itis like me... the cost ot level a scribe is a good investment

[Hocus Pocus]

hmmm. mayhaps i should move my scribe to another server? make some nice dough?

well. what ya'll think about the new trailer ?

my paladin talents reset again.

interesting changes to the zones

no portals in dal

[Doc Chase]

Actually only on some servers, others many rolled their own scribes (like me) due to the raised prices even if we don't have all the recipies we can trade a few here and there to get the ones we need for out alts.

when you have alt-itis like me... the cost ot level a scribe is a good investment

Moon Guard's economy is among the most skewed of all US servers. I have a full gamut of professions available so I don't actually pay for any finished product off the AH.

[MortVent]

well leveling a worgen, and my god the speed is insane.

I already outleved darkshore with 3 hours. (doing dailys in SW, and 1 dungeon a day) All the quests are now grey, plus I'm about to just skip the next zone more or less doing the same.

Add in the leveling up to 80 is also sped up.. good night.

[Doc Chase]

Yeah, questing was both streamlined and turbocharged. We had realm first 85's about 12 hours after the expansion went live.

That's about 17 million XP in a 12 hour period. 84 to 85 is around 9.5 on its own.

[Ramaloke]

Meh, I stopped playing shortly after hitting 80 in WotLK. The game became more of a chat program than a game since I was bored to tears. BG's were still kind of fun though. I think the problem is I raided too much in BC.

[Doc Chase]

They did two intruiging things with pvp this time around.

One, they introduced rated battlegrounds that work much like arenas, and the War Games function, which lets your group challenge another group to any battleground or arena venue - provided population isn't an issue.

So, you can play who the hell you want to in Arathi, Alterac, Warsong, etc.

[Ramaloke]

Can you do that cross realm?

After BC I retired my Blood Elf Warlock (T6) and leveled my Bood Elf Paladin. I turned into a healbot because it was much different from playing a Destrolock.

[Doc Chase]

No, cross-realm wargames are not planned.

I'm getting sick of healbotting, especially with the new changes to the healing mechanisms. Before I had to worry about my heals not having enough oomph, now I have to worry about them not having enough oomph and costing 10x the mana they once did.

[Ramaloke]

/shrugs

Im so far out of the loop on WoW that I likely wouldn't know what was causing the bump in mana, All I know is I had a great deal of fun healbotting after playing a destro lock where my rotation was something like Immolate + 3 or 4 Shadowbolts + Immolate +Curses and such when necessary.

[Stahlseele]

just to make sure you are pronouncing it correctly

[Hocus Pocus]

Welps, i bought what i believe is the last game card for this game. I maxed out all muh guys and even did some raiding. I've found that I've been playing much less lately as RL has taken up most of my time again and it seems that yet again i'm forcing myself to play, if it weren't for leveling my golbin shammy i'd think I would be done with the game by now. Most of my guild has apprently gone the way of the do-do with RL affecting a great many of them since i came back, many furthering careers suprisingly. Didn't help that that licentious chick in guild left the game, shacked up with a guy from our guild for a bit, but now looks like she moved on, shame she was nasty...in the good way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . I almost didn't buy the game card but our defacto second in command wanted to try raiding again, knowing her for a few years I gave her into her request and bought the card but wheter or not we get back up, i thinks i be leaving.

Will see how it goes, never say never, but looks like this wow chapter is coming to a close.

[Doc Chase]

Guild maintenance has taken up the lion's share of my time right now, so I haven't gotten a chance to raid. I think a lot more folks are disappointed with the expansion this time around, since they made the dungeons much less forgiving for mistakes, and there are a LOT of people who don't exactly pay attention in them.

Healbotting a paladin is more fun now, much less so on the druid. Shame, that.

[KarmaInferno]

Pretty much my reaction on coming back to WoW after skipping most of Wrath of the Lich King was, "Dude, did everyone just forget how to raid?"

To which the answer was, "Yes. Yes they did."

Apparently Wrath introduced such massive healer mana pools that many raid encounters were more or less, "Randomly push buttons and epics pop out." People weren't bothering to even move out of the fire because the raid could just heal through the damage.

Last month I witnessed a guy die from standing in a void zone and then proceed to bitch at the healer for letting him die.

In Wrath, the incoming damage and debuffs have increased significantly, but the healing ability of those classes capable of it hasn't increased at the same pace.

As I said, I left shortly after Wrath was released. So the last raid content I saw was Black Temple with it's infamous "Superbowl of Not Standing in Stuff", i.e. The Illidari Council. I was used to doing things like Reading Up On The Encounters, Paying Attention To What The Target Is Casting, and Moving When Stuff Under My Feet Is Glowing. Threat meters and other stat-trackers were among the first add-ons I installed when re-installing the game. So far when in groups of people that adopt the same raiding attitude, things go fairly smoothly.

On the other hand, the massive increase in bad raiders that Wrath created makes me hate random pick-up groups even more. I pretty much only raid with folks I know.



-k