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post Nov 5 2010, 03:39 AM
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Well I was thinking of a character concept for an upcoming SR game and I though it would be fun to play a juiced up bicycle courier. I figure I'll make him a physical adept but I need some help with the finer points. For example, are there any rules for bicycles anywhere? I'm wondering what skill you would use for doing bike tricks, catching some air, etc. Furthermore, what about using the bike as a weapon? Doing a wheelie on the front wheel and having the rear wheel swing around and smack a corporate goon in the head for example.

Just wondering if this stuff would be feasible cause the idea makes me laugh.
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post Nov 5 2010, 04:18 AM
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Be sure to name him "BMX Bandit".
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post Nov 5 2010, 04:22 AM
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Sounds fun. No rules for any of it (except 'bicycle as Improvised Weapon', maybe). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 5 2010, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Nov 4 2010, 09:22 PM) *
Sounds fun. No rules for any of it (except 'bicycle as Improvised Weapon', maybe). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Hey, hey, the Clubs (Improvised Weapons +2) spec is pretty awesome, because it covers *anything* blunt you can pick up and hit someone with. Including gunbashes and pistolwhips.

As a side note, trolls can pick up a lot of stuff. I would totally make a troll adept with shattering blow, who's entire purpose is to rip large objects from wherever they may be, and hit people with them. Shattering blow to help with liberating, say, lightposts and benches.
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post Nov 5 2010, 04:32 AM
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This is one of those concepts that probably benefits from being built more or less "straight" but with a decent Edge score that you hold onto just for when you want to do something ridiculous. When in doubt the GM can just let you default to Agility anyway, after all.
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post Nov 5 2010, 04:33 AM
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Somehow I feel like a wheelie doesn't count as 'Clubs', esp. with bonus dice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 5 2010, 05:16 AM
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Wouldn't the vehicle ramming rules apply?
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post Nov 5 2010, 05:19 AM
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And now we break out the real world running speed to bicycling speed relation, mix it with the fastest running build, and what the fires light up on the road.
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post Nov 5 2010, 06:52 AM
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This makes me think of what the courier (Kourier?) bike of the 2070s would look like. Smart tires, electric boost motor with regenerative braking, partially unstable frame for trick maneuvers and easy collapsability. Probably folds up as small as one of today's collapsible chainless bikes, but with a frame as strong as a mountain bike's and a continuously variable transmission (yes, they do make those for bikes, a chainless one would be somethin' though!)

Something like that could definitely be of use to a street level character, a lot more urban maneuverability than a motorcycle. Fold it up into a backpack size and it makes a great getaway plan, faster than Kid Stealth legs on a ghoul.
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post Nov 5 2010, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Nov 5 2010, 12:22 AM) *
Sounds fun. No rules for any of it (except 'bicycle as Improvised Weapon', maybe). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

There is ALLWAYS the Situational Modifier of +/- up to 3Dice !!
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Doc-Byte (Buddy of Mine and also Member here) made a Sportsgroup once :
Bicycle(Racing,Street,BMX,Tour de France),
Skisports(Snowboarding and Skis included),
Surfing (Long Boards,Short Boards)
and Blading(Rollerblades,80's Discoblades, Ice scating)
all Skills are connected to AGIlity
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post Nov 5 2010, 09:51 AM
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Sounds like a hilarious character design for a pink mohawk round.
There won't be many rules that can be applied to this but I guess a high acrobatics skill with a specialization like "bike tricks" as well as Exotic Melee Weapon (Biking) would be mandatory for this to work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Is riding a bike considered Acrobatics, Sprinting or Ground vehicles?

Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFuMpYTyRjw
(yeah it is old but still awesome... also OP mages (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) )
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post Nov 5 2010, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (Medicineman @ Nov 5 2010, 11:10 AM) *
Doc-Byte (Buddy of Mine and also Member here) made a Sportsgroup once :
Bicycle(Racing,Street,BMX,Tour de France),
Skisports(Snowboarding and Skis included),
Surfing (Long Boards,Short Boards)
and Blading(Rollerblades,80's Discoblades, Ice scating)
all Skills are connected to AGIlity
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HokaHey
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I think the final version looked something like this:

Sports skill group

Cycling (Strength)
Default: Yes
Skill Group: Sports
Specializations: Road racing, track racing, mountain biking, BMX freestyle, urban sprawl, touring

Skiing (Strength)
Default: Yes
Skill Group: Sports
Specializations: Downhill, super-g, slalom, snowboarding, freestyle, cross-country

Skating (Agility)
Default: Yes
Skill Group: Sports
Specializations: Rollerblading, skateboarding, ice skating, speed skating, short track, figure skating, hover boards

Surfing (Agility)
Default: Yes
Skill Group: Sports
Specializations: Wave riding, wind surfing, water skiing (maybe skysurfing)


But the skill-assignments are debatable.

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I've also created a bicycle courier, but with bioware and gentech. He's a former pro cyclist who picked up a little too much ware and was suspended by the WADA.
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post Nov 5 2010, 12:17 PM
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This is a good excuse to read Snow Crash, since it's setting is SR-like, and a courier is a major supporting character.

(...and because it's one hell of a book!)
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post Nov 5 2010, 12:18 PM
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At least for fluff you can take the Courierz Rulez Code of Conduct for 5 BP (Runner's Companion). This sounds really cool, seeing as how it is much more difficult to both ride a skateboard and use it as a weapon (you would need to be able to pull off some wicked Ollies if you tried). You might even use Enthralling Performance (Cycling) to brainwash the whole skate park. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 5 2010, 01:34 PM
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I'll just leave this here
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post Nov 5 2010, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (Udoshi @ Nov 5 2010, 04:25 AM) *
Hey, hey, the Clubs (Improvised Weapons +2) spec is pretty awesome, because it covers *anything* blunt you can pick up and hit someone with. Including gunbashes and pistolwhips.

As a side note, trolls can pick up a lot of stuff. I would totally make a troll adept with shattering blow, who's entire purpose is to rip large objects from wherever they may be, and hit people with them. Shattering blow to help with liberating, say, lightposts and benches.


A Troll with max strength and Clubs(ImpWeap) could and would have vast proficiency in ripping out engine blocks and bludgeoning people with them.

Mmmyes, mmmyes.
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post Nov 5 2010, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (Medicineman @ Nov 5 2010, 05:10 AM) *
There is ALLWAYS the Situational Modifier of +/- up to 3Dice !!
You mean, up to -3. Never a plus! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 5 2010, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (Nifft @ Nov 5 2010, 12:18 AM) *
Be sure to name him "BMX Bandit".

Yeah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) if you want to cure yourself of this idea, watch the BMX Bandit clips. Hilarious!

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post Nov 5 2010, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (Mesh @ Nov 5 2010, 01:02 PM) *
Yeah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) if you want to cure yourself of this idea, watch the BMX Bandit clips. Hilarious!

Mesh



Exactly. Note also that Angel Summoner is an easy and legitimate build in Shadowrun.
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post Nov 5 2010, 09:10 PM
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I can see those bicycles are being even more popular due to they can be used off grid with no electricity, are eco-friendly, and you don't need a license for them.

Also... the stigmata of wearing tight bicycle pants, carrying around a 2-wheeler across your back does make a person look less like a threat.
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post Nov 5 2010, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Nov 5 2010, 05:10 PM) *
Also... the stigmata of wearing tight bicycle pants

Those pants might be too tight if they're making your hands bleed.
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post Nov 5 2010, 09:47 PM
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The only thing that could make this concept more awesome?

A unicycle

The only thing more awesome than that?

If the character was a robot.
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post Nov 5 2010, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Nifft @ Nov 5 2010, 05:18 AM) *
Be sure to name him "BMX Bandit".


Heh. First thought, when I saw the subject line. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Nov 5 2010, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (Thanee @ Nov 5 2010, 04:52 PM) *
Heh. First thought, when I saw the subject line. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Bye
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I'm surprised it took 11 whole posts till someone posted the actual link (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Nov 5 2010, 10:33 PM
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Add some Ki-Ad powers to this and... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif) I've never done anything close to this with my BMX back then.
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