Please critique my hacker. Options

[Chance359]

All depends on which runs you do, and how often you get together with your group. We pretty much be running missions and CMP's since May. I will tell you that In Debt will be banned for character creation during season 4 so you better get busy playing the guy.

I'd offer this as a well built model to go off of. (Though I dont like the cyberarm). Post 10.

[Ed_209a]

In debt is entirely impractical in missions. Missions requires you to not only pay the 1.5x debt back, with interest, they also expect you to pay off the BP cost in karma. Which frankly makes it the worse quality you could ever pick.

Kind of like having to pay off Enemy after you kill him? Inconvenient, but it makes sense.

[Karoline]

Kind of like having to pay off Enemy after you kill him? Inconvenient, but it makes sense.

Except you'll never actually want to kill your enemy, because you know doing so will soak up your next 30 karma or however much the enemy was worth. You'll literally want to let her go so that she can continue being your enemy. Similarly, you'll never actually want to pay back your debt, because it is going to cost you 60 karma to do so.

Incidentally, this is why it is getting removed from missions. They don't want people to take it without realizing it is the worse quality ever, and they don't want people to use the rules to make it a decent quality again. All they have to do is leave 1 nuyen on the debt, and it isn't paid off. They don't have to pay the karma, but the interest is now .1 nuyen every month.

And enemy is actually better. It makes sense that you are unable to resolve it. You fail to kill the person, the person gets a HoG, you kill the enemy and the enemy's protege or whoever takes over. Debt? Well, you have the money to pay off the debt but you don't because.... you know you'll never be able to learn anything ever again if you do?

No need to get into it too much here, there is already at least one long thread on here that goes into plenty of discussion about the quality. The point though is that it is the worse quality you could pick for your character, right up there with Borrowed Time for a missions game, because you'll net a big nuyen loss, and you'll kill your own character advancement.

[Yerameyahu]

If you kill your Enemy, his son/brother/friend/whatever replaces him. Isn't that in the rules?

Anyway, let's not redo the In Debt debate, but no, not really an option in Missions.

[Karoline]

If you kill your Enemy, his son/brother/friend/whatever replaces him. Isn't that in the rules?

Anyway, let's not redo the In Debt debate, but no, not really an option in Missions.

It's not actually, much as I thought it was. It is the rules for vendetta though, and I figure it doesn't take much imagination to transfer it over to enemy.

[LurkerOutThere]

Thanks for all your comments so far.

This is a more general Missions question. (OK, it is still a pretty specific question, just not troll hacker related) How practical is the In Debt quality in Missions? I guess the big question is how much time is there between Missions runs. 1 per month could make In Dept very difficult, because most of your pay would go to a bookie. 2-3 runs a month, it gets workable.

In New York you will do exactly 1 run a week/4 a month. The only exception being if your character is doing more downtime for whatever reason. Personally I recommend against in debt for some reasons others have stated, by one interpretation it's pure gouda, by another it's completely crippling. I've completely come around on it and am glad it's going away.