Interesting VTOL Ampib plane, how to stat this up for SR |
Interesting VTOL Ampib plane, how to stat this up for SR |
Nov 9 2010, 10:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 10-January 10 Member No.: 18,025 |
while crawling the web I came across this entry for the VVA-14 Transport Ekranoplan. After reading over the concept I realized that this might be a vehicle that could be produced in SR with a few minor tweaks. But how to stat it out.
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/bartini/vva/vva_e.htm |
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Nov 9 2010, 11:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 4-November 10 Member No.: 19,151 |
Leave it to the Russians!
Perhaps, it could be used in Shadowrun, but most likely with very limited application… Smuggling through the Wisconsin lake network, maybe? |
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Nov 9 2010, 11:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 10-January 10 Member No.: 18,025 |
or even a legitmate transport version across the lakes could be interesting
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Nov 9 2010, 11:21 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 63 Joined: 23-February 10 Member No.: 18,192 |
I can't decide if that's awesome, weird, or both...It really isn't surprising that the Russians made it though.
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Nov 10 2010, 12:20 AM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
dont we call that a thunderbird?
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Nov 10 2010, 12:31 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Isn't that just a Tundra-9 or whatever from Arsenal? Now, if we had one that could go underwater (I just skimmed it so if it could, that would be cool)...
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Nov 10 2010, 01:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 894 Joined: 5-May 10 Member No.: 18,556 |
Well, in SR terms, it's a Tundra 9 AND a Thunderbird, although slow for a LAV.
First Ekranoplan I've seen that actually has full flight capabilities. |
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Nov 10 2010, 02:04 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 181 Joined: 9-October 10 Member No.: 19,106 |
The problem with most aircraft is that they are impossible to get at chargen. Unless...you take Born Rich and Black Market Pipeline (Vehicles). Then, for 25 BP in qualities and 60 BP in resources, you can get:
Renault-Fiat Fokker Tundra-9 (Amphibious Jet) Some nations have tried to control smuggling by limiting the number of airfields that can take traffic. However, there are always hidden corporate facilities and out-of-the-way military bases that need to be supplied, and VTOL aircrat lack the fuel efficiency to carry heavy supplies to these locations. But facilities also always need fresh water, and with a body of water nearby, the amphibious Renault-Fiat Fokker Tundra 9 can land. The occasional Awakened-game hunter also needs to get to the remotest parts of the world to hunt their most dangerous game and take their trophies and any survivors out. Similar Models: Airbus JPFB-03, Toyota TX13 Std. Upgrades: Flotation Handling: -1 Acceleration: 30/120 Speed: 500 Pilot: 2 Body: 18 Armor: 8 Sensor: 2 Availability: 12 (+ 4 Used) Price: 350,000 (-10% (Black Market Pipeline) -20% (Used - Gremlins 1) = 234,000) If you want to submerge, it should be noted that Arsenal designates the necessary modifications as "Watercraft Only" but your GM may allow an aircraft with flotation to use it as well: Ballast Tanks 1 Modification - 36,000 (32,400 if GM considers vehicle mods covered under quality) Life Support 2 Modification - 36,000 (32,400 if GM considers vehicle mods covered under quality) Total: 298,800 Or try to earn it out of chargen. |
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Nov 10 2010, 02:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 894 Joined: 5-May 10 Member No.: 18,556 |
I'm assuming your intended SR version wouldn't be outfitted for the ASW role the VVA-14 was intended for?
Meanwhile, for more Russian goodness, check out the Lun-class Ekranoplan |
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Nov 10 2010, 02:21 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
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Nov 10 2010, 02:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 181 Joined: 9-October 10 Member No.: 19,106 |
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Nov 10 2010, 02:36 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Wow.
"Remotest" and "remoter" are actually the correct words. They just look and sound so supidly awful. |
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Nov 10 2010, 02:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 181 Joined: 9-October 10 Member No.: 19,106 |
I think "ointment" sound supidly awful, myself. That's why it's my favorite word. And why you are saying it out loud right now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)
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Nov 11 2010, 02:53 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 10-January 10 Member No.: 18,025 |
thanks for the feed back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 11 2010, 06:35 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I'm positive we had a thread about this in the last 3 months. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Basically, there's a reason they don't use these in real life. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (But it's fun to do weird things in SR.) Incidentally, there's nothing 'VTOL' about it.
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Nov 11 2010, 08:58 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
More like VSTOL.
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Nov 11 2010, 09:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 894 Joined: 5-May 10 Member No.: 18,556 |
The VTOL engines were never fitted. What it doesn't say is whether they were intended for use in water takeoffs, which would have been.. interesting.
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Nov 11 2010, 02:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 16-March 05 From: 51° 16' North 7° 11' East Member No.: 7,168 |
If you cut off the wings, I'd think this plane's in fact some tramp freighter from Corellian Engineering Corporation.
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Nov 12 2010, 01:01 AM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 9,666 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
Basically, there's a reason they don't use these in real life. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (But it's fun to do weird things in SR.) Check THIS out.EDIT: If it weren't for the fuel consumption, things like this would be great in the Canadian far north. |
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Nov 12 2010, 04:32 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
I can't decide if that's awesome, weird, or both...It really isn't surprising that the Russians made it though. Hey, at least it isn't a 1000 tonne tank. |
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Nov 21 2010, 09:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 10-January 10 Member No.: 18,025 |
oy.....what a revolting idea
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Nov 26 2010, 01:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 917 Joined: 5-September 03 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Member No.: 5,585 |
Be great for smuggling, especially the Carrib, mon.
Those things are fast, you can pack a ton of gear in them and you'd lose them in the sea clutter. Apart from the IR emissions, the appearance (hard to disguise one of those as a trawler) and need for a safe harbour for storage of the beast, ideal for fast island-hopping in an era of rampant piracy with ship-to-ship missiles. Tir. |
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Nov 26 2010, 03:49 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
Hey, at least it isn't a 1000 tonne tank. Now I see where ForgeWorld came up with the Baneblade. Strengthens my belief that bigger ain't always better. |
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Feb 8 2011, 05:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 10-January 10 Member No.: 18,025 |
more Wing in Ground Effect Vehicles
http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/05/ek...s-showcase.html |
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Feb 16 2011, 01:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 10-January 10 Member No.: 18,025 |
and it looks like the concept got a severe makeover....damn that looks cool
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/ekranoya...2025-29985.html |
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