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post Nov 27 2010, 10:11 PM
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okI'm looking for suggestions for Casinos in Vegas.
Now europe might have quiet style and majesty but american casinos like glitter and Vegas more than anywhere else. in RL now there are themes like an Egypt themed pyramid shaped hotel, one italian themed complete with canals and gondolas, but what will there be in the 2070's? give me ideas go wild.
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post Nov 27 2010, 10:30 PM
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A dragon's hoard-themed casino springs to mind. Potentially owned by an actual dragon.
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post Nov 27 2010, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE (Tanegar @ Nov 27 2010, 06:30 PM) *
A dragon's hoard-themed casino springs to mind. Potentially owned by an actual dragon.



Love it.

Also, maybe an awakened only room, where competitors and spectators need to have astral sight for the game to work. The deck could even be an uncommon focus designed by the casino mages, which only reveals the card face on the astral.
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post Nov 27 2010, 10:43 PM
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"Spirits of '76"
- various spirit metaplane-related rooms twisted with an American overlay
- I'm getting an image: The Flame Room- lots of gold and red sparkles, red and gold stars and stripes, the waitresses are all redheads with little red and gold stars pasted on their ....

*ahem*

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post Nov 28 2010, 01:58 AM
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Some kind of magic themed one? With a pile of real magicians that run it. Use a lot of the 3d phantasm spells, plus invisibility for wait staff, etc.

The stratosphere V3, that really is into the stratosphere?

More overtly sexually themed hotel? (assuming Clark county abolishes their prostitution prohibition).

Some kind of Indian (as in NA type) theme?
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post Nov 28 2010, 03:02 AM
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I would be shocked if there weren't already Indian-themed casinos. I know there are Indian-run casinos. As for the others, they're all perfectly reasonable. I would totally go to a place where the waitresses were all hot and naked. "Sex sells" is axiomatic for a reason, after all.
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post Nov 28 2010, 03:24 AM
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A shadowrunner themed casino. Where guests are not simply allowed, but expected to wear longcoats and carry weapons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

All the dealers would be dressed in business suits and have a name tag that reads 'Mr. J.'
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post Nov 28 2010, 03:25 AM
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QUOTE (Tanegar @ Nov 27 2010, 09:02 PM) *
I would be shocked if there weren't already Indian-themed casinos.

I don't know of any.

Here's a list
http://vegasclick.com/vegas/casinos.html
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post Nov 28 2010, 03:38 AM
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Newsflash: Not all North American casinos are in Las Vegas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 28 2010, 03:51 AM
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 27 2010, 07:24 PM) *
A shadowrunner themed casino. Where guests are not simply allowed, but expected to wear longcoats and carry weapons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

All the dealers would be dressed in business suits and have a name tag that reads 'Mr. J.'


This. maybe not real weapons, I can see that being an issue with whoever owned the thing, and security, but still, this.

QUOTE (Tanegar @ Nov 27 2010, 07:02 PM) *
I would be shocked if there weren't already Indian-themed casinos. I know there are Indian-run casinos.

I can think of four Indian-run ones in the Northwest with at least minor Indian themes. But one with a real heavy theme like that of the southwestern tribes in Vegas would be awesome.

What about a one that is partially or mostly virtual? Maybe you have to hack your way into games once you're in the building.
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post Nov 28 2010, 02:47 PM
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T I know they aren't. Tahoe and Atlantic City come to mind and the 2 indian casions in Vonnecticut, there's Sugar House near me in philly but most of these are just chrome and neon, in Vegas they seem to reach a new level of glitz and theme park like actions. RL Anthony bourdain's review of New York, New York was hilarious if you're a New Yorker.
"Too clean, it's disorienting, I'd jump off the brooklyn bridge here but the water below is only 6 inches deep....we're getting into my neighborhood now, behind each of those little windows is a tiny little homosexual... God this place should come with a warning sign for real New Yorkers."

In a recent book I read ,fiction, about a Casino that was Hell Themed. and another that was along the lines of b/w classic film noir.

also remember there could be attractions lured in-how many places have celbrety chefs setting up shop in their hotels. In RL Bobby Flay has a show where he challenges other chefs to cook offs, he had one against an Itlaian restaurant litterally accross the lobby from one of his Vegas places in the same hotel. Bourdain's essay on Vegas "Food and Loathing in Las Vegas" was to see if the restaurants of celebrity chefs in Vegas were realyl as good as their lfag ship places.

Stage shows like Elton John, Celine Dion, Several people have mentioned mage themed places but htink of the astage shows. Heck, Sigfried and Roy had a long running show until one of them got eaten. Liberace bordered on a magci show with the lgitz
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post Nov 28 2010, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (Tanegar @ Nov 27 2010, 09:38 PM) *
Newsflash: Not all North American casinos are in Las Vegas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


I think kzt is acutely aware of this. There is after all an Indian casino just north of Abq on I-25. Doubles as a truck stop. I've purchased many a Mountain Dew and Chewy Spree for the road there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

So far some good ideas here. I think an interesting theme for a Vegas game is to show the players the dark underside of the Glittering City. They say that today you can get anything you want for the right price, image the kinds of high-end attractions they would have to offer the high-rollers of 2070. To-the-death fighting contests. Human slave trading. Saw (the movie) -style betting games where you observe some poor schmuck racing to save his life and bet on the outcome. Sex, drugs, rock and roll. You could even have things like astral tourism with the help of an entrepreneurial Free Spirt for the right price. Could be very interesting in deed.

QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Nov 28 2010, 08:47 AM) *
Stage shows like Elton John, Celine Dion, Several people have mentioned mage themed places but htink of the astage shows. Heck, Sigfried and Roy had a long running show until one of them got eaten. Liberace bordered on a magci show with the lgitz
With a powerful conjurer specialized in ancestor spirits and you can still see Celine Dion on stage in 2072.
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post Nov 28 2010, 07:16 PM
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I've been at 4 of the major Indian casinos in NM. None were really indian themed (or any themed compared to a vegas casino), they are just kind of generic casino, heavier on the slots and lighter on table games than a vegas casino. The one that became a Hard Rock now has a theme, but the others still not so much. However they have brought a lot of semi-major live music acts into town.
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post Nov 28 2010, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Nov 28 2010, 09:47 AM) *
In a recent book I read ,fiction, about a Casino that was Hell Themed. and another that was along the lines of b/w classic film noir.

Hmm. Casinos aimed at customers with simsense modules or simrigs: you walk into Casino Noir and suddenly your vision is in black and white, with lots of dramatic lighting and shadows that non-simsense-receiving patrons can't see. Hell of a lot cheaper than physical lighting and effects. Casino Inferno would get you the heat of the flames, the reek of brimstone, completely realistic, tactile images of sinners being tormented, etc.
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post Nov 28 2010, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (Method @ Nov 28 2010, 01:43 PM) *
With a powerful conjurer specialized in ancestor spirits and you can still see Celine Dion on stage in 2072.
Celine cannot die. She will still be singing in 2072.
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post Nov 28 2010, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE (pbangarth @ Nov 28 2010, 03:54 PM) *
Celine cannot die. She will still be singing in 2072.


Shouldn't that be in the Hell themed one, then?
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post Nov 28 2010, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (jaellot @ Nov 28 2010, 04:16 PM) *
Shouldn't that be in the Hell themed one, then?
Sounds about right.
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post Nov 29 2010, 12:22 AM
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Regardless of current casino designs, I'm sure there's an Indian themed one in 207X, what with the political situation.

Orbital-themed might be another, or Luna themed (easier to ignore gravity). AR-overlay would only help.
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post Nov 29 2010, 02:30 AM
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An elf-themed one. Loathed by real elves, because it shamelessly caters to all the elf-wannabes.

Atlantis-themed; maybe it's actually submerged and the guests get some special gear to breathe underwater. And mermaids, of course. And shell-games.
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post Nov 29 2010, 02:41 AM
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mm, mermaids. Hopefully the fantasy style ones, human looking, with nice knockers. not the "realistic" ones, that are designed to survive in the kind of conditions they live in...
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post Nov 29 2010, 03:35 AM
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Regardless of the theme, casinos are designed to bring in everyone, from the guy who just got a dollar begging out front to the guy who'll risk a quarter million or more in a weekend. They're a thin veneer of something interesting, overlaying an operation that's supposed to remove your money from you, slowly, so you don't feel it. They would not have any where real weapons were allowed, and they would have all the best wards to protect against theft and cheating.

So yes, there would almost certainly be an elf themed place for the poseurs, and a troll and ork friendly place. Slot machines with magic and matrix themes, plus the very popular Neil the Ork Barbarian themed machines. Machines that you can enter into full VR to play on. Casino-only credsticks that you have to put money "on" before you can play, and then trade in when you're ready to leave the casino in the manner of the Ticket In/Ticket Out machines they use now.

And there will still be douchebags wearing backwards baseball caps and mirrored sunglasses while they play poker...
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post Nov 29 2010, 03:49 AM
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QUOTE (J. Packer @ Nov 28 2010, 09:35 PM) *
They would not have any where real weapons were allowed, and they would have all the best wards to protect against theft and cheating.

I have never seen a Vegas casino that prohibits legal concealed firearms. It just isn't an issue. I've seen a few clubs in the casinos that wouldn't let you in with weapon during busy periods, but they had a problem with a knife too, and they offered to have security hold them. Casino security pretty tight, but people who behave themselves don't see it other than the omnipresent camera domes.
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QUOTE (J. Packer @ Nov 28 2010, 09:35 PM) *
And there will still be douchebags wearing backwards baseball caps and mirrored sunglasses while they play poker...
HA! For that you get bumped up to member status. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 29 2010, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (Aku @ Nov 28 2010, 09:41 PM) *
mm, mermaids. Hopefully the fantasy style ones, human looking, with nice knockers. not the "realistic" ones, that are designed to survive in the kind of conditions they live in...

Did you miss the part where we were talking about Vegas? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

JP has it right, I don't think you'd get any Casinos that as a whole would be unaccessible to anyone. While a Casino might have a particular game or room devoted to Awakened, you'd never have an entire Casino because 1. There simply aren't enough awakened to support it and 2. The casino would never completely forgo all the potential unawakened customers.

As for Simsense, I think all casinos will have at least some level of it. I'm sure for example that people could see in AR which tables are 'hot' and perhaps leave floating AROs over people's heads that says that they've won XXXXXX nuyen. Most will likely also integrate added AR wallspace and things like that to 'enhance' the experience. And same goes for Simsense, they'd be crazy to not add some 'feel good' sensations to those stupid enough to let them. I think AR stuff would be the most focused on though. Remember, all you need are some 50 nuyen glasses or 75 nuyen contacts or some cybereyes. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if Casinos include 'free' glasses/contacts (set up to only work in their casino of course) with a room or pass them out to people as they get chips (I'm convinced chips would remain)
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QUOTE (kzt @ Nov 28 2010, 12:16 PM) *
I've been at 4 of the major Indian casinos in NM. None were really indian themed (or any themed compared to a vegas casino), they are just kind of generic casino, heavier on the slots and lighter on table games than a vegas casino. The one that became a Hard Rock now has a theme, but the others still not so much. However they have brought a lot of semi-major live music acts into town.


There's a Hard Rock in NM? Where at?

I think the casinos would be a bit more brazen about the sex, drugs, nightlife, etc. But with the omnipresence of cameras in the seventies, what happens in Vegas gets broadcast to the world, in real time.
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