Runner Teams on TV, as in real shows |
Runner Teams on TV, as in real shows |
Dec 2 2010, 03:00 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Baltimore Member No.: 2,824 |
So I just caught an episode of 'Human Target', and that has reminded me that there are several current TV shows that are, more or less, about teams of runners.
I've often used one of these shows to give people a bit of a showing as to what runners do. However, which of these teams would you really consider 'Runners' and which is your favorite? Leverage These 5 all have clearly defined rolls. A combat monster, a hacker, an infiltration specialist, a face, and a roll not really seen in SR, a 'mastermind'. Burn Notice While Michael Westin was a spy, he now does odd jobs. I'm not as familiar with this show, but I know his team consists of a crazy gunbunny and Bruce Campbell. Human Target More 'goodguy' runners, all I know is that Jack Chance is an ex badass of some sort, and Chi McBride and the dude who play Rorschach do cool shit and wreck badguy plans. |
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Dec 2 2010, 04:02 AM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
Although i dont watch it i think leverage is probably the closest to being runners from what i do know of it. Burnnotice to me, is too generalist to fit as a shadowrunner.
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Dec 2 2010, 04:32 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 22-July 09 Member No.: 17,419 |
While it's not a "team of specialists pull off heists" show, Sons of Anarchy has proven very valuable to me as a reference point for criminal and "off the grid" organizations. "The Wire" and "The Shield" are also good points of reference.
And you should watch the show "Terriers" while it's still on. Wacky private eyes take on a development corporation. Lots of good "screwed by Mr. Johnson" moments. |
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Dec 2 2010, 02:47 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 |
Burn Notice is what happens when you take a 400BP Face and give him about a thousand Karma.
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Dec 2 2010, 02:56 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649 |
Burn Notice is:
A Face/Weapon Specialist/Infiltration Expert (Michael Westin) A Gun Bunny/Demolitions expert A Face/Weapon Specialist (Bruce) But really Michael Westin probably does have about 500+ Karma on top of his 400BP Bruce Campbell probably has about 400, so does Fiona Human Target: Chance is a Face/Melee Specialist/small arms guy Winston is a Former Cop/Fixer Guerrero is a Assassin/Long Arms/Torture/Intimidation guy Again, they're way above 400BP |
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Dec 2 2010, 03:09 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,904 Joined: 31-December 06 Member No.: 10,502 |
If you get the retro channel there's always the A-team. Which also continues the trend of being fairly faceish. Except the guy they call the face is maybe #3 when it comes to what we would consider faceish skills.
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Dec 2 2010, 05:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 30-March 03 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 4,355 |
Can we go backward a bit?
Alias Chuck Buffy |
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Dec 2 2010, 05:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 956 Joined: 16-June 07 From: Like a coyote, always on the move Member No.: 11,931 |
A bit of an oldie, Birds of Prey, shows a high tech runs in the shadows 3 woman team. You have your hacker/intel person (Barbara/Oracle), your street sam (Helena/Huntress), and your mage (Dinah). All three tend to fill the face role at different times, though it tends to be primarily Dinah (as the sam tends more towards intimidation to sweet talking).
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Dec 2 2010, 06:03 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
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Dec 2 2010, 06:39 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 |
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Dec 2 2010, 06:42 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649 |
I don't know. How many build points do you think it took to buy the Bruce Campbell's Chin edge? 400 additional karma (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) not 400BP and that's it. |
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Dec 2 2010, 06:57 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 30-May 09 From: Germany Member No.: 17,225 |
There are many "teams" which could be used as, or at least inspire characters in shadowrun... even if we stray a bit from the core concept.
For example we can easily translate Michael Knight and K.I.T.T. into shadowrun: A driver/melee fighter/face dude with an erased past working for a strange organization partnered with a high-level AI in a overmodded, armored sportscar. Or even more generic characters of more generic shows (I mostly think of 80ies shows for some weird reason). Like Riptide, or Stingray (which is totally awesome) or McGuyver. Virtually all adventure/crime/action/horror/sci-fi shows can be ripped apart and the parts glued and scattered into shadowrun... that's why it's so cool. |
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Dec 2 2010, 07:39 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 |
The Six Million Dollar Man and Bionic Woman (with a price tag of eleven million for what amounted to be the same parts).
I suppose they both had to absorb the R&D costs, since you could get the same thing for less than a tenth of the price in 2070. |
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Dec 2 2010, 09:22 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,904 Joined: 31-December 06 Member No.: 10,502 |
It occurs to me that there are probably more examples in Anime. Some of which you can probably Hulu.
Cowboy Bebop comes to mind in a big way. They've got the cyber in there, and the "job of the day" aspect. I know there are tons more. Oh! Has nobody mentioned Firefly yet? Granted they go between planets, but it's no Trek with transporters or anything. Once inside the atmosphere their ship is basically an unarmed Banshee, and most runner teams have, if anything, better weaponry and equipment. |
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Dec 2 2010, 09:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 704 Joined: 20-November 06 From: The seemingly unknown area of land between Seattle and Idaho. Member No.: 9,910 |
My favorite TV Runner Teams, in no particulate order:
Burn Notice Mike Weston-face/covert ops specialist Fiona Glennanne-weapons specialist/face Sam Axe-Bruce Campbell Madeline Weston-utter badass/team mom The A-Team Col. John "Hannibal" Smith-tactician/weapon specialist/face/badass Lt. Templeton "Face" Peck-face/weapon specialist/badass Sgt. Bosco Albert "B.A." Baracus-rigger/tech specialist/weapon specialist/brick/badass Cpt. H.M. "Howling Mad" Murdock-rigger/weapon specialist/loony/badass Firefly Captain Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds-leader/weapons specialist Zoe Washburne-weapons specialist Hoban "Wash" Washburne-rigger Jayne Cobb-street sam Kalyee Frye-tech specialist Dr. Simon Tam-team medic Shepard Book-awesome yet hard to define Inara Serra-face River Tam-complicated |
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Dec 2 2010, 11:11 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,782 Joined: 28-August 09 Member No.: 17,566 |
If you get the retro channel there's always the A-team. Which also continues the trend of being fairly faceish. Except the guy they call the face is maybe #3 when it comes to what we would consider faceish skills. Actually, all the old stuff A-Team is up on hulu for free. So damn pink mohawk. I almost pissed myself laughing at the battlebus. |
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Dec 3 2010, 01:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 956 Joined: 16-June 07 From: Like a coyote, always on the move Member No.: 11,931 |
Firefly Captain Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds-leader/weapons specialist Zoe Washburne-weapons specialist Hoban "Wash" Washburne-rigger Jayne Cobb-street sam Kalyee Frye-tech specialist Dr. Simon Tam-team medic Shepard Book-awesome yet hard to define Inara Serra-face River Tam-complicated River is obviously an adept who awakened in the womb and has several grades of initiation which were swapped for more power points, giving her improved ability in pretty much every skill, plus things like traceless walk, improved attribute intuition/logic, etc. Book is probably another adept, one who used to be a warrior's way who is now trying to go the shamanic way. |
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Dec 3 2010, 02:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
Mystic adept, with a few detection and illusion abilities. For psychic hijinks.
I hate myself for knowing that. |
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Dec 3 2010, 02:53 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,904 Joined: 31-December 06 Member No.: 10,502 |
Actually, all the old stuff A-Team is up on hulu for free. So damn pink mohawk. I almost pissed myself laughing at the battlebus. Heh. Maybe I'll watch a couple ones I haven't seen there. Thanks. As for pink mohawks this is forth edition. where your hair can be any style...as long as its black. |
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