Gangers and Stats, Does this seem about right? Options

[Apathy]

Small Gang (only known within the neighborhood, might not even have a name, 15-35 members)
Modern Equivalents = Shilohs, Bush Mob, Black Gangster Deciples
Weapons - Cheap Melee wpns (club/knife/chain), pistols, shotguns, cheap assault rifles (AK74s) and the occasional grenade.
Armor - Armored Jacket or Vest

Medium Gang (known throughout the sprawl, but not outside the city, 100-300 members)
Modern Equivalent = Westies, Latin Kings (now, not in their prime)
Weapons - Small Gang stuff + occasional LMG maybe an armored van
Armor - Armored Jacket or Vest

Large Gang (national reputation, presence in multiple cities, over 1,000 members)
Modern Equivalent = Crips, Bloods, Aryan Nation
Weapons - up to HMGs, Rocket Launchers, Doberman drones
Armor - Armored Jacket or Vest + FFBA

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Ganger Stats:


Street Punks: (the guys standing around on the corner)
B Q S I W C R
4 4 4 2 2 2 3+1D

Pistol/Lt Pstl 2
Unarmed 4
Club or Knife 2
Athletics 2
Street Etiquette 3
Stealth 1
Illegal Drugs 2

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Punk Leader[PL]: (leads a crew of 4-7 street punks, generally toughest in crew)
B Q S I W C R
5 4 4 2 3 3 5+2D

Pistol 4
Unarmed 4
Club or Knife 5
Athletics 2
Street Etiquette 4
Stealth 1
Illegal Drugs 3
Intimidation 4

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Neighborhood Gang Leader[NGL]: (heads up a crews from 3-5 crews, runs the money making rackets)
B Q S I W C R
4 3 3 3 5 4 5+2D

Pistol 4
Shotgun 4
Club or Knife 3
Unarmed 3
Athletics 2
Street Etiquette 4
Stealth 1
Illegal Drugs 4
Intimidation 2
Leadership 3

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City-wide Gang Leader[CWGL]: (heads up a crews from 5-10 neighborhoods)
B Q S I W C R
4 3 3 5 6 5 6+2D

Pistol 3
Unarmed 4
Athletics 2
Street Etiquette 5
Stealth 1
Illegal Drugs 5
Prositution 3
Smuggling 2
Numbers Rackets 3
Protection Rckts 4
Intimidation 3
Leadership 5

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City-wide Elites/Heavies: (CWGL has a crew of tough guys to act as bodyguards/enforcers)
B Q S I W C R
5(7)5 6(8)3 5 2 8+3D

Pistol 4
Unarmed 6
Assault Rifle 5
Thrown/Grenade 2/4
Athletics 2
Street Etiquette 3
Stealth 3
Intimidation 5
Torture 3

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Gang King [GK](in charge of all city chapters)
B Q S I W C R
3 3 3 5 7 6 4

Pistol 2
Unarmed 2
Street Etiquette 6
Legal Etiquette 3
Stealth 1
Leadership 6

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King's Guard: (GK has a crew of tough guys to act as bodyguards)
B Q S I W C R
7(8)6(9)8(11)3 5 2 12+3D

Pistol 5
Unarmed 7
Assault Rifle 5
Athletics 2
Street Etiquette 3
Stealth 3
Intimidation 5
Torture 3

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[toturi]

I think the Underworld Sourcebook and SRComp has rules on gangers and their stats. Check them out first.

[Diesel]

These look fine until the high end guys...7 unarmed is a little much. Otherwise, good stuff.

[Kagetenshi]

Agreed. 7 Willpower is also probably a bit much for the Gang King.

~J

[Apathy]

[BitBasher]

Also, I woudl have no problems with top of the line gangs with rocket launchers (Great Dragon ATGM is only avail 6) but I would never, ever give them any drones, period. Drones have too much of an ongoing maintenence to keep them running.

[toturi]

Usually the lower tier gangs wouldn't even figure into the calculations of the megacorps at all, perhaps the A or national corps. The tier 1 gangs like the Ancients would have some influence in the decisions of the AA or AAAs but still they are little more than speed bumps.

The gangs featured in SRComp are mostly lower tiered ones.

[DV8]

If you're interested in quick ganger stats, and don't want to slave over your desk hours before your game trying to come up with a varied set of ganger stats, look here for a Random Gang Generator.

[Crimson Jack]

Cool generator, DV8. 8)

[ShadowPhoenix]

Don't forget in the New Seattle Source that some of the gang bosses are ex shadowrunners, meaning a gang boss, like say Grinder is a retired Ex-Runner PhysAd, I'd imagine that duking it out with him is probably pretty nasty. So high end stats for gangers aren't necessarily inaccurate, depends on the story of that character.

[theartthief]

I really liked the gang generator....

That was some nice programming.

- theartthief

[Apathy]

All the generators on that site were pretty cool.

(Although it made me realize I was doing some things wrong when I calculated my bug spirits manually)