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[Irion]

@Stahlseele
Which reminds of something. Germany is only about 22 years old. Freaking christ.
And our constitution is cheated, damn it.

Well, I guess "Hitlersäge" is something you should not say if some guy with a Kamera is near by...
Could get you thrown off the force.

[Stahlseele]

@Stahlseele
Which reminds of something. Germany is only about 22 years old. Freaking christ.
And our constitution is cheated, damn it.

Well, I guess "Hitlersäge" is something you should not say if some guy with a Kamera is near by...
Could get you thrown off the force.

highly improbable.
also, if you wanna skirt the issue, just call it knochensäge. the full name is hitlers knochensäge.

[Irion]

I was not really serious, I admit it.

[Machiavelli]

Ah, the good old fries-question. I am fat enough to know a bit about the different fast-food-chains and fries are definitely something that doesn´t rely on the chain you are in. It heavily depends on the employees and their day-form. We have some McD restaurants here where you cannot eat the fries while others make outstanding ones. Same goes for BK and all other competitors. The real difference are the burgers and the corresponding sauces. All the "side-items" are next to meaningless. You have to have them, but nobody goes there just because of the fries...at least not the majority.

[Seriously Mike]

Heh, it reminded me of my old blog post about using real company names in future systems without much thinking (if you want, I can translate it to English, now I'll just give the short version). It's one of my pet peeves, especially when it comes to weapons. I mean, cars, all right, "Chrysler-Nissan Jackrabbit" may be a bit much to put on the trunk hatch, but it sounds plausible. But when they confuse designer's name or weapon designation with company name, or change one or two letter "just so", that's where I call BS. CP2020 caught more flak, but Shadowrun also pulled a howler with the Ingram guns. Gordon Ingram was just a designer, and the companies who produced his guns were something else entirely. Also, some companies (mostly American) get no respect - for instance, I saw a lot of Colt guns, some Ruger guns, but barely any Smith&Wesson or Springfield.

And then there's that bit about lazy graphic artists...

[CanRay]

The artists for the new Gun Haven Heaven for the new firearms. *Shudders*

[Fatum]

Those weren't procedurely generated on a computer? :O

[CanRay]

Those weren't procedurely generated on a computer? :O

I'm guessing someone's niece with crayons, myself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Fatum]

I was thinking pseudorandom. Like some Markov chains applied to gun graphics or something like that.

[CanRay]

From what I remember of my chaos mathematics pertaining to random generators, they can't make that kind of ugly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Honestly, they're not bad. They'd be decent pics for Star Wars blasters or some other sci-fi game. But, as firearms... *Shakes Head*

[Sengir]

Which reminds of something. Germany is only about 22 years old. Freaking christ.

While it's called "reunification", technically it was an accession of the DDR to the Federal Republic.

Anyway, Attitude seems to introduce quite a volume of new brand names, but nobody spotted a major blunder yet? I'm disappointed...

[Seriously Mike]

The artists for the new Gun Haven Heaven for the new firearms. *Shudders*

Are you talking about THIS? If yes, I would fire every last one of those morons. They took photos of toys in worst quality available, and didn't even bother to edit out the screws! Just look at the sample pics: first pistol, a generic China-made toy BB gun. Second pistol, a bad China-made knockoff of a toy BB SIG P226 Railframe (and the 226 is considered a full-size service pistol). Seriously, I'm supposed to PAY for this load of crap?
Oh, and then there's that fifth... something. I could design something better and I'm not even a really talented artist (I do draw from time to time, though).

[raben-aas]

Can someone explain why Vogelhund sounds so stupid if you're German? It looks, from my perspective, like it means "bird-dog", and that doesn't seem too off. So I must be missing something.

That's actually a pretty tricky question. You see, in English there is this obviously German dog called the "Dachshund", because it's a hunting dog bred to hunt badgers (Dachse). The problem being: This dog isn't called Dachshund in Germany AT ALL!

It's called "Dackel" here.

Of course, it WAS called Dachshund somewhere down the line (AND STILL IS among hunters!! – yes, fellow Germans, Dachshund is indeed the correct name of the Dackel – or Teckel – deal with it) but that name just went out of popular use in Germany a long while ago.

Now, if a German that just happens to not be a professional hunter is shown the word "Dachshund" it just reads as two animals that were glued together for no reason. NO ONE will make the connection with a dog that was bred for hunting badgers, EVERY ONE will think that this is supposed to refer to some horror animal made by crossing badgers and dogs, EVEN THOUGH we still have the Schäferhund (shepherd's dog or German Shepherd) that is neither a crossbreed of a shepherd and a dog (although herding sheep can get lonely...) nor is it a dog bred to hunt shepherds.

Anyway: If even the correct, but not publicy known "Dachshund" sounds awfully wrong to Germans now, you can well imagine that a Vogelhund sounds even worse (it's the kid of a dog that humped a duck, okay?). If the intention was to name the vehicle after a possible German hunting dog bred to fetch birds the hunter shot down, the "correct" name would have been "Retriever", because that is indeed the correct name in German!

Go figure languages....

[raben-aas]

Also, hat off to raben-aas for his Russian in the Berlin sourcebook - as I've already said in his DA comments, it's both hilarious, awesome and grammatically perfect.

Thank you so very very much!

I should note that I do not speak a single word of Russian. I found these tags/sentences/citations by RESEARCH (come on, game developers, look the term up). I went through a wide selection of Russian translation and Russian youth slang websites, digging up useful bits, then CROSS CHECKING THEM by entering the same words/sentences into search engines and looking for other websites that use this grammatical construction.

Only when I found SEVERAL independent websites using the same jargon/grammar/words did I DARE to use it (same goes with the Turkish, Arabic and other foreign bits in my pix).

[Stahlseele]

German Thoroughness!

[CanRay]

Are you talking about THIS? If yes, I would fire every last one of those morons. They took photos of toys in worst quality available, and didn't even bother to edit out the screws! Just look at the sample pics: first pistol, a generic China-made toy BB gun. Second pistol, a bad China-made knockoff of a toy BB SIG P226 Railframe (and the 226 is considered a full-size service pistol). Seriously, I'm supposed to PAY for this load of crap?

They do seem exceptionally sub-par, indeed.

I should note that I do not speak a single word of Russian. I found these tags/sentences/citations by RESEARCH (come on, game developers, look the term up). I went through a wide selection of Russian translation and Russian youth slang websites, digging up useful bits, then CROSS CHECKING THEM by entering the same words/sentences into search engines and looking for other websites that use this grammatical construction.

Only when I found SEVERAL independent websites using the same jargon/grammar/words did I DARE to use it (same goes with the Turkish, Arabic and other foreign bits in my pix).

But that would take time and effort. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Seriously, even back when I was a researcher, that's an exceptional bit of work, especially for a language that doesn't even use the same characters your own does. Congratulations and thanks!

German Thoroughness!

Maybe that's why the Germans are getting the good Shadowrun stuff? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Stahlseele]

Probably.
Beim Thema Deutsche Gründlichkeit, da weiss man halt bescheid.

[Bigity]

I don't know what you said.

All I know is that Germans seem to be as good at making SR as they are at making beer, and that's all I need to know really.

[Sengir]

All I know is that Germans seem to be as good at making SR as they are at making beer, and that's all I need to know really.

We can do bad beer (Adelskronen after three days in the sun, yummy), and we can do Shadowrun stuff like the old uber gear and smurfs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Stahlseele]

Dude, if you leave ANY beer 3 days in the sun, it's going to become bad beer . . Hell, some beer may actually no longer be beer but a thriving micro civilization after that time . .

[CanRay]

Alternately, some beer might be better if you poured it back into the horse it came out of.

...

Well, the world would be, at the very least.

[Fatum]

For all I know pretty much all sorts of Russian beer don't become any better or worse after being left in the sun for any length of time...

[Stahlseele]

russian beer?
don't you mean vodka?
that stuff is pretty resistant to all kinds of stuff . .

[Sengir]

Dude, if you leave ANY beer 3 days in the sun, it's going to become bad beer . . Hell, some beer may actually no longer be beer but a thriving micro civilization after that time . .

Well, you wouldn't think that something which only gets sold in plastic bottles at Penny (bottom quarter of the no-frills stores in Germany) can get much worse...

Also, that was after the Maiden massacre on Wacken '08...already couldn't move my arms like 15 meters behind the FoH tower, and judging by the look of raw panic in the eyes of the people who kicked and punched their way out it wasn't getting better farther to the front. By the time we got out of that, I wasn't exactly picky when someone offered me a beer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[CanRay]

russian beer?
don't you mean vodka?
that stuff is pretty resistant to all kinds of stuff . .

Except Russians. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

I want some of Old Man Kalashnikov's Vodka, myself. But it apparently doesn't make it to Canada. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) He started making it due to the fact that the AK-Family became the favorite of terrorists, which pisses him off something fierce. (He was proud of the design as he created it to help soldiers defend his homeland. Which is a very noble thing, if you ask me.).