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post Aug 22 2011, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (Sengir @ Aug 19 2011, 05:13 PM) *
While it's called "reunification", technically it was an accession of the DDR to the Federal Republic.


There was never a reunification. That's a myth. In fact the FRG bought the GDR from Russia. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Aug 22 2011, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Aug 22 2011, 10:24 PM) *
russian beer?
don't you mean vodka?

There is a way to tell them apart: the beer is the sparkling one.
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post Aug 23 2011, 06:18 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9cTXl5ApEk

and while we're at it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_WRFJwGsbY

with a dance in a Canoe
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post Aug 23 2011, 11:19 AM
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While we're at ridiculous names, what does "pink mohawk" mean and where did it come from?
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post Aug 23 2011, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (Seriously Mike @ Aug 23 2011, 12:19 PM) *
While we're at ridiculous names, what does "pink mohawk" mean and where did it come from?

It's used to refer to the kind of shadowrun players/characters/games the nature of which is to go in all guns blazing, causing chaos and carnage left, right and centre to get the job done in the most isn't-brute-force-fun way possible. Typically the consequences are either not explored or considered an acceptible price.

The alternative is dark shades, where the MO is focused heavily on subterfuge and shadowy operations using finesse and caution to a paranoid degree. This approach usually considers the consequences of being identified as the ultimate failure in a mission.

As for where it comes from – as I understand it, it's rooted in the '80s punk theme so prevalent in SR (less so now than with 1st edition) and other cyberpunk universes. Both the colour and the hairstyle give an impression of both punkness and stand-out-ish-ness.
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post Aug 23 2011, 11:55 AM
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It comes from this
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post Aug 23 2011, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE (Aerospider @ Aug 23 2011, 01:29 PM) *
It's used to refer to the kind of shadowrun players/characters/games the nature of which is to go in all guns blazing, causing chaos and carnage left, right and centre to get the job done in the most isn't-brute-force-fun way possible. Typically the consequences are either not explored or considered an acceptible price.
*notes down*
"Contrary to popular belief, brute force actually is a viable alternative in some cases. Some people know better than messing with whackjobs who are willing to blow stuff up to achieve their goals and don't give a shit if someone recognizes them."
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post Aug 23 2011, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (Seriously Mike @ Aug 23 2011, 06:19 AM) *
While we're at ridiculous names, what does "pink mohawk" mean and where did it come from?

watch the Movie Smokin Aces (I try to explain without spoiling) this Movie explains it better than a 100 Words
there is one Group totally "Pink Mohawk ",Alicia Keyes and her Partner are "Standard Shadowrunner"(subtle until drastic means are neccessary)
and the Killer who uses the disguises (Duel in the Elevator) is ...kinda "Shades & long Coat"


with one Dance instead of a Hundred Words
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post Aug 23 2011, 01:43 PM
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doesn't get more pink mohawk than this.
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post Aug 23 2011, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (Medicineman @ Aug 23 2011, 10:30 AM) *
watch the Movie Smokin Aces (I try to explain without spoiling) this Movie explains it better than a 100 Words
there is one Group totally "Pink Mohawk ",Alicia Keyes and her Partner are "Standard Shadowrunner"(subtle until drastic means are neccessary)
and the Killer who uses the disguises (Duel in the Elevator) is ...kinda "Shades & long Coat"


with one Dance instead of a Hundred Words
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That movie is awesome, plus, Alicia Keyes is hot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 23 2011, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (Traul @ Aug 23 2011, 02:05 AM) *
There is a way to tell them apart: the beer is the sparkling one.
Nah, there's a simpler way - good Russian vodka actually exists.
As to the beer I mean, take Baltica for example, bleh.
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post Aug 23 2011, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (Seriously Mike @ Aug 23 2011, 08:14 AM) *
"Contrary to popular belief, brute force actually is a viable alternative in some cases. Some people know better than messing with whackjobs who are willing to blow stuff up to achieve their goals and don't give a shit if someone recognizes them."
Still doesn't explain why my hometown has a SWAT team when another bomb squad would have been much more useful.
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post Aug 23 2011, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 23 2011, 09:46 AM) *
Still doesn't explain why my hometown has a SWAT team when another bomb squad would have been much more useful.


Why would your town need more than 1 bomb sqad? I didn't know Dublin or Falluja was in Canada!

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post Aug 23 2011, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (Dreadlord @ Aug 23 2011, 06:56 PM) *
Why would your town need more than 1 bomb sqad?

Depends on how they defuse the bombs, I guess (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 23 2011, 07:29 PM
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Well, I always thought pink mohawk was only about loud and doing it with style.
Like I could shoot him an be effizient or I could run towards him and hit him in the face and kick him in the but afterwards.

If you kill people or not has, as far as I understood it, nothing to do with pink mohawk.

Pink mohawk is the obvious cyberarm with thousands of gimicks in it. The if you don't know shit, just hit someone and ask him.
If you would use D&D slang, pink mohawk is chaotic.
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post Aug 23 2011, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 23 2011, 09:46 AM) *
Still doesn't explain why my hometown has a SWAT team when another bomb squad would have been much more useful.
QUOTE (Dreadlord @ Aug 23 2011, 01:56 PM) *
Why would your town need more than 1 bomb sqad? I didn't know Dublin or Falluja was in Canada!
I grew up in a mining town. At least 1/3 of the population there either has the training to make and handle large amounts of explosives, or the ability to learn. Conservative estimate, at that.

Add to that the availability of high explosives...

Well, we already vaporized a transport truck once. Now, admittedly, that was a mistake and he "might" have been illegally carrying blasting caps with the full load of mining explosives ("Might" in this case meaning there's no evidence as it got all blowed up.), but still...
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post Aug 24 2011, 03:55 AM
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Honestly I've always found Aztechnology to be easily the most ridiculous company name. I mean, I know what they're going for, they're Aztec and they like technology, but it just seems really odd to me.

QUOTE (Irion @ Aug 23 2011, 02:29 PM) *
Well, I always thought pink mohawk was only about loud and doing it with style.
Like I could shoot him an be effizient or I could run towards him and hit him in the face and kick him in the but afterwards.

If you kill people or not has, as far as I understood it, nothing to do with pink mohawk.

Pink mohawk is the obvious cyberarm with thousands of gimicks in it. The if you don't know shit, just hit someone and ask him.
If you would use D&D slang, pink mohawk is chaotic.


pink mohawk also has connotations of ignoring some of the more paranoid aspects of Shadowrun. Many paranoid style players would avoid actually taking a life, in order to avoid sparking repercussions. Therefore, simply shooting someone could be considered more pink mohawk (especially if you do it with style!)
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post Aug 24 2011, 03:58 AM
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QUOTE (Hound @ Aug 23 2011, 10:55 PM) *
Honestly I've always found Aztechnology to be easily the most ridiculous company name. I mean, I know what they're going for, they're Aztec and they like technology, but it just seems really odd to me.
Maybe it makes more sense in Spanish?
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post Aug 24 2011, 04:01 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 23 2011, 10:58 PM) *
Maybe it makes more sense in Spanish?

Lol... as far as I know, Aztec is just the name of a culture, no second meanings. It's even funnier cause like, it's not even a very family friendly culture to want to brand yourself with, what with all the human sacrificing and such.
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post Aug 24 2011, 04:12 AM
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QUOTE (Hound @ Aug 23 2011, 11:01 PM) *
Lol... as far as I know, Aztec is just the name of a culture, no second meanings. It's even funnier cause like, it's not even a very family friendly culture to want to brand yourself with, what with all the human sacrificing and such.
So? You think Ásatrú is? There are people today that are happy to show their faith in that.

Smile politely and nod when they explain that, by the way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Aug 24 2011, 06:54 AM
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First, Aztechnology is a deliberate wordplay, a thing not unheard of in company names.
Second, general public does not know about the blood magic, human sacrifices and samesuch. Sure they sacrifice flowers and sometimes animals, but it's their culture, chummer, have some respect!
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post Aug 24 2011, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 24 2011, 12:12 AM) *
So? You think Ásatrú is? There are people today that are happy to show their faith in that.

Smile politely and nod when they explain that, by the way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That's true, I'm not hating on either religion, however, how many companies do you see associating themselves with Odin?

QUOTE (Fatum @ Aug 24 2011, 02:54 AM) *
First, Aztechnology is a deliberate wordplay, a thing not unheard of in company names.
Second, general public does not know about the blood magic, human sacrifices and samesuch. Sure they sacrifice flowers and sometimes animals, but it's their culture, chummer, have some respect!

I dunno, I would say it goes the other way, especially with magic appearing. Practically the only thing I know about the Aztec tradition is that it involves human sacrifice and sometimes demands self-mutilation from it's priests. If some of that stuff started coming out of history books and appearing in the news it would become more common knowledge. Then when you consider that it is the most extreme aspects of any given subject which determine the view that Joe Public is likely to have on it, I would say most people would associate Aztecs and blood magic pretty strongly in 2070.

All in all, I think Shiawase is a fairly realistic name for a corporation. It's bland, it isn't likely to offend a significant number of people and it has obvious good connotations. Aztechnology seems creepy and possibly disturbing, which I'm sure is exactly what the writers were going for, as that also fits the personality of the corp pretty well. The Azzies have a reputation for ferocious pragmatism, only thinly disguised by the trappings of a corporation, correct?
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post Aug 24 2011, 01:02 PM
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Did we already discuss "Zugwagen"? I don't speak German, but I can recognize a bad fake anyway. "Traincar", c'mon...
Also, what's Stuffer Shack exactly? A convenience store or a fast-food joint? It's a pretty crappy name in both cases, but with convenience store, it's definitely crappier.
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As far as I know, Stuffer Shack is a convenience store.
Also, Aztlan does human sacrifices in their temples and in a rather public way, all public sacrifices are of criminals (specially scape-goats that can be labeled as "traitors").
Aztechnology does embrace its Aztlan heritage but they spin the public's opinion enough that most people just think of them as the food supplier of the world.
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QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Aug 24 2011, 09:31 AM) *
As far as I know, Stuffer Shack is a convenience store.
Also, Aztlan does human sacrifices in their temples and in a rather public way, all public sacrifices are of criminals (specially scape-goats that can be labeled as "traitors").
Aztechnology does embrace its Aztlan heritage but they spin the public's opinion enough that most people just think of them as the food supplier of the world.

That reminds me... Have they started their soylent line of food products yet? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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