You nicked the paint on your Bugatti!, Super cars and runners |
You nicked the paint on your Bugatti!, Super cars and runners |
Jan 7 2011, 03:08 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Ok having become a hard core fan of the British Top Gear I am developing an appreciation of those super cars that seem more European than American.
It makes me wonder about what the runners drive. Do you go on a run with a high value car? Think of James Bond's Austin Martin- tricked out in Goldfinger and just a great car that wrecks in Casino Royale. OR are you like Patrtick Swayze in Road House with a knock about for day to day use while keeping the good car hidden away? Or do you see no point to haivng the car? |
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Jan 7 2011, 03:31 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 5-December 10 From: Sydney Member No.: 19,206 |
low key all the way while on a job.
you dont want to be flaunting your expensive ride while on a job. just in case you need to ditch it in a hurry and disapear. the cheapest run of the mill camry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) would do the trick over any tricked out zonda (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jan 7 2011, 03:53 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 |
low key all the way while on a job. you dont want to be flaunting your expensive ride while on a job. just in case you need to ditch it in a hurry and disapear. the cheapest run of the mill camry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) would do the trick over any tricked out zonda (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If it's not stolen, it's not a Shadowrun. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Jan 7 2011, 03:55 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
Fixed the thread title for you. (your --> you).
And Top Gear kicks ass. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jan 7 2011, 04:00 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Unless you need the expensive ride for a con.
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Jan 7 2011, 05:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 485 Joined: 2-March 05 From: The Vicinity Of Obscenity Member No.: 7,131 |
One of my currently active characters makes use of a middle-of-the-road(hehe) sedan not too unlike the Shin-Hyung in Arsenal. Got good speed and handling, cheaper than a Eurocar, and with a chameleon coating it doesn't look out of place anywhere, thanks to the fact it can adopt a pre-programmed "rusted-out clunker" pattern whenever it needs to go into the slums or get a brand new glossy black paintjob for the ritzy neighborhoods.
He really oughta take a page from Swayze by keeping the damn thing hidden and use a real clunker, though. It keeps getting scuffed up and damaged. Sometimes by his own team! Can't imagine what a pain it is to recoat an adaptive camouflage paintjob. |
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Jan 7 2011, 05:19 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 18-September 09 Member No.: 17,649 |
Unless you need the expensive ride for a con. Or to blend in better with your target area. Generally, the best car is the one that won't be noticed going in or out, IMO. Speed and armament are secondary concerns usually at odds with the first; it's easy enough to hijack a car that looks like some portion of the area vehicles, even if it's a delivery van, (and if it's not, that's a good sign that the run might be more difficult than should be taken on without serious help), but it's hard to find a way to outrun the armed response in said delivery van. Of course, it helps to have a really fast car aimlessly driving around under remote control, awaiting summons by the driver in case the quiet way fails. |
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Jan 7 2011, 05:55 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Whatever happened to "High Tech and Low Life"? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Jan 7 2011, 06:40 AM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
My "old man" character drives a BMW.
He's not especially attached to it, though. It's just a reliable car with four extra mod slots. And lots of hidden surprises. He'll probably get another one when this one inevitably gets trashed. In his previous Virtual Seattle incarnation he drove a Punisher-style battlevan. My Rigger drives a Daihatsu-Caterpillar Horseman, among other things. That advanced cargo module can hold an astonishing amount of gear. -k |
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Jan 7 2011, 08:41 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 30-May 09 From: Germany Member No.: 17,225 |
Hm... Bulldog all the way, sadly. If you are carrying an Steel-Lynx and an assortment of other drones, nothing else has the mix of needed space and low-profile.
Well, my old detective-character was driving a 1969 Corvette Stingray - ultra-oldtimer (But completely switched out engine and transmission. We gave it stats of a Westwind) No tricks, no armor, just an hidden LAW in the trunk. Sometimes STYLE is all you need. |
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Jan 7 2011, 08:53 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
QUOTE Bulldog all the way We bought out bulldog fifth (tenth?) hand. When we bought it, it was held together by body filler. Now that we have done a few runs, and its bit more shot up, its held together by even more body filler. The cost of damage to the van is usually the most expensive part of our operations: so I recommend a cheap second hand van from the scrapyard, that your rigger can do up. My son is playing a mage / rigger in the denver missions, and he likes his ares roadmaster (a lorry). Lorries drive every where at all times of the day and night. They have high body and high armour. His is kitted out with medium lifestyle, so it doubles as a safehouse. Its much easier to hide a concealed turret on the lorry than on a sports car. He did of course want the ejector seat option! Hes just lost his high lifestyle (a shoot out in a posh condominium with the Vory can cause questions to be asked) so having the lorry parked in a cheap warehouse makes a very quick and effective hideout. On the point of stealing cars: we find that Murphy is always out there, and stealing a car is just asking for a lone star to stop you at the wrong moment. |
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Jan 7 2011, 10:05 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Most of my characters use the monorail or bikes. The rigger has a Westwind, but that's the private car. On runs, a battered-looking van-tank-drone carrier is the vehicle of choice.
Generally, on a job, an expensive car is a no-go. That's something for downtime. |
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Jan 7 2011, 10:57 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
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Jan 7 2011, 11:35 AM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 8,915 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
OR are you like Patrtick Swayze in Road House with a knock about for day to day use while keeping the good car hidden away? That was a pretty smart move of him, considering what that car had to endure. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) If my character has a car, that is typically also used for running, but mostly to get around town and to be inconspicuous and such. When a vehicle is needed in a more direct fashion, it will be acquired for that purpose, unless some old cars are still lying around from earlier (like those two vans my PnP char has "acquired" during a run and which are now used, because they are kinda expendable). Bye Thanee |
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Jan 7 2011, 02:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 12-July 10 Member No.: 18,814 |
A Patrol-1 with chameleon coating pre programmed with designs for various security companies and stocked with gear appropriate for a real police or security vehicle.
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Jan 7 2011, 04:39 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Just keep your transponder codes up to date, but other than that, fine idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jan 7 2011, 04:44 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
You know, I wonder why am I reminded of the "Blue Beetle" from The Dresden Files?
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Jan 7 2011, 04:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 687 Joined: 22-October 09 Member No.: 17,783 |
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Jan 7 2011, 05:11 PM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
You know, I've had a lot of characters trick out motorcycles, or acquire rotorcraft, or boats, or any number of not-exactly-subtle vehicles... But not a single one has ever pursued a supercar, or even a halfway decent sports car, that I can recall. It's quite a strange thing to me, because I'm a "car guy", and I figure if I was a super-criminal with oodles of money, I'd get my ass a fast car. Hell, as soon as my last PC made any money at all, he got himself a BMW 4000GT and tricked it the hell out. I'd go on a run - any run - with a high value car. Sure, it's memorable, but if it's got a faked transponder, a shifting plate, and ruthenium paint, it won't matter - nobody really looks at the *car* in 2070 anyway. They look at the digital signature.
Then again, none of my players understand the attraction of hot hatches, Alfa Romeo, or small roadsters, either. Heathens. Who wouldn't want to go commit crimes in some of these: Vehicle appearing in my next game as the British "Bracken Thunderbolt Coupe" Or maybe an Armored BMW 765 is more your speed? Or a Lotus Esprit GTO? (I've been making a Euroean vehicle update, you see. Culling concept art from all over the net.) |
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Jan 7 2011, 05:13 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,883 Joined: 16-December 06 Member No.: 10,386 |
I'd rather have a tricked out bike for most runners or a Spiral or Shin-Hyun for my budget conscious riggers. I also like the Hotspur if I feel like splurging, since it's still quite fast while being beefier and cheaper than a Westwind. Off-road suspension, 16 Body and smart tires are pretty nice if you find yourself taking creative detours through the Barrens.
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Jan 7 2011, 09:52 PM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
One of my standard automotive purchases for most characters is a non-discript coup (Mercury Comet or whatever) with upgraded pilot, a theft protection system and a large car bomb. Load it with all your necessary bug-out gear, drive it to the long term parking lot at the local airport and program the agent to move the car every 1-2 weeks at random. If you ever need to to disappear, you send out the call and the car comes to wherever you are to pick you up. If anybody gets wise and tries to mess with your stuff... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Jan 7 2011, 09:53 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
My group once did a (filmed) chase away from The Magic Kingdom in a Range Rover 4X4 while armed Jaguar Sports Cars were chasing after them. They found out that their "Great Armor" doesn't work so well against full-auto bursts that have no recoil penalties.
As for myself, I'm from Northern Ontario. If we hit something on the road, we have to make sure it is D-E-D DEAD! Full-Sized Sedans (Ford Americars) and Pick-Up Trucks (Naz) are a must. |
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Jan 7 2011, 10:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 12-July 10 Member No.: 18,814 |
You know, I've had a lot of characters trick out motorcycles, or acquire rotorcraft, or boats, or any number of not-exactly-subtle vehicles... But not a single one has ever pursued a supercar, or even a halfway decent sports car, Thats where the Patrol-1 came in, its got the handling of a sports car for a reasonable price, the fact that its a police/security vehicle is pure bonus. I actually wanted to buy the Ford 115Ti, but the min/maxer in me couldn't justify the price tag on it. |
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Jan 7 2011, 10:25 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Because Harry would fit in to Shadowrun so easilly it is scary... though he would need a very specific team, the man Hoods too often.... Jim Butcher would probably want to play him in a superhero game. He plays the City of Heroes MMO and actually got permission to play Harry Dresden there. -k |
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Jan 7 2011, 10:30 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Actually, I used to have a Harry Dresden clone in my group. Worked very well, especially since the Paranormal PI used to be a viable archetype back in the good old days. He had a day job of doing more mundane detective work so he could actually pay for the hooding.
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