Juggernaut help, I foresee a challenge and want to plan accordingly Options

[WyldKnight]

So at some point we may have to bring in a Juggernaut alive. Dead I could handle (Gauss rifle ftw) but alive I'm not so sure about. With it's immunities I don't think knockout gas is much of an option. Hardened armor makes DMSO rounds pointless too if I remember correctly. So how would you go about taking in one of these things alive? It can still be harmed but it has to be in relatively good condition.

[Medicineman]

Possesing Spirit !

Hough !
Medicineman

[Kronk2]

WWOOOOAH FREAKY, We did that tonight. We made Juggernaut dance tonight as part of an insurance scam.

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I am still having visions of juggernauts in tutus
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[Sengir]

Stun spells still work, but you will probably need a decently large ritual group to pull it off.

[Stahlseele]

Litres of anaesthetics

[Sengir]

Litres of anaesthetics

Immunity to toxins...so no drunk Juggernauts, sorry

[Stahlseele]

OK, i did not know that.

[WyldKnight]

Idk if our mage could handle that many stunbolts and we lack possession spirits. Some sort of mood control spell maybe? Make the Juggernaut nice and placid?

[CanRay]

Well, immunity of toxins gets rid of my idea of ginormous amounts of booze and THC...

[WyldKnight]

The image of a stoned juggernaut is pretty amusing. Even better if he's smoking with his attuned Mystic Adept Rasta shaman.

[CanRay]

"Yo, dudes, we got a problem." "What, it can't be cotton mouth, he just drank a lake." "Nah dudes... Munchies." "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"

[Makki]

I can see a Sonic Screech Rifle to work. aswell as every kind of electric damage. just taser it

[Kronk2]

Handle animal is also an easy way to do it.

[Stahlseele]

Illusion Spells?
Make where you want it to go look inviting enough for it to go there of it's own?

[pbangarth]

An illusion of a juggernaut of the opposite sex to entice it into its transport container?

[Stahlseele]

I was thinking more of a mountain of food, but that would work too . .
And if you wanna be really mean, cast the illusion on the vehicle of somebody you don't like.
Even if it's not completely obliterated, imagine the owner having to clean THAT up . .

[Seth]

There are a ton of mind control spells. Even if you don't have one now, its only 5 karma for the mage to get one, and sometimes you have to invest in order to get returns.

Failing that you can create an illusion of something very tempting and attract it to the target, or to the pit with lots of duct tape in it (duct tape can do anything)

You can always get a possessing spirit to help with the calling rules from running wild

[WyldKnight]

I was thinking more of a mountain of food, but that would work too . .
And if you wanna be really mean, cast the illusion on the vehicle of somebody you don't like.
Even if it's not completely obliterated, imagine the owner having to clean THAT up . .

That image will haunt me for god knows how long.

I think we're going for a two parter. Entice the target with a mountain of food. Once he gets inside the mobile enclosure and realizes the food isn't real we cast a control emotions spell and make it nice and placid for the ride home. The trick is making sure we keep it placed.

I would love to use a possession spirit but our GM won't let us use em for the most part sadly enough.

[Game2BHappy]

An illusion of a juggernaut of the opposite sex to entice it into its transport container?

Heh... all I can imagine right now is:
Team Lead: "Okay team, there's the juggernaut. Sandman, you get ready to cast an illusion spell. Slice, you run up under that thing and find out what sex it is."
Slice: "awww man... not again."

[Stahlseele]

That image will haunt me for god knows how long.

*snickers* ^^

Heh... all I can imagine right now is:
Team Lead: "Okay team, there's the juggernaut. Sandman, you get ready to cast an illusion spell. Slice, you run up under that thing and find out what sex it is."
Slice: "awww man... not again."

poor guy ^^

[Mäx]

So how would you go about taking in one of these things alive? It can still be harmed but it has to be in relatively good condition.

Stick&Shock ammo, if your sammy doesn't for some weird reason have any, then just buy a full clip for his favourite gun.
Then your only remaining problem will be carrying that think home (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[WyldKnight]

But it has hardened armor. Even cut in half doesn't that mean it won't pierce it?

[Mäx]

But it has hardened armor. Even cut in half doesn't that mean it won't pierce it?

It has hardened armor 12, S&S halves that to 6 and it does at minimum 7 points of damage which is more then the 6 points of armor, so it does damage just well.

[InfinityzeN]

auto grenade launcher loaded with foam grenades.

[Summerstorm]

Just with spirits... S&S shouldn't be able to take this down that easily. It really isn't how they work. (Ok, i will say a well placed S&S in the eyes will hurt like hell though, even an Juggernaut *g*)

On the easy side: 12 points hardened Armor is NOTHING. It is weaklish, and something having it shouldn't really be called a "Juggernaut". Want to catch it? Load Gel-Rounds into a sniper rifle... or a hunting rifle... or the elephant gun and take it out. The ONE key of course is: you need a FEW people to do it (taking down its defensive dice - and constantly losing people to it's fear power until it arrives) OR have to be good at shooting, good equipment - and have stealth options, so it cannot use its power.

NOW... if it were somehow a warform Juggernaut, with 50% more armor, 50% more Willpower, 50% more Body and some surged magic-resistance... THEN we are talking about unstopppable.... bwahahaha