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Jan 14 2011, 05:57 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,113 Joined: 27-November 10 Member No.: 19,186 |
One of the suites - cyberlogician, I think - has three datajacks.
Is that because each datajack can only have a single knowsoft plugged in at a time? Or do you allow multiple softs to be plugged into the same jack simultaneously? If so, what's the need for three of them? |
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Jan 14 2011, 06:03 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 30-May 09 From: Germany Member No.: 17,225 |
Connecting to multiple comlinks/nexi/machines/vehicles at once. I mean: sure you can just have one comlink and command from there... but fluffwise it's just cool having some dude have multiple thick cables in the head, connecting him to different ports in the room. (That's what makes him a REAL spider, sitting in a net *g*)
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Jan 14 2011, 06:05 PM
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
I think it's mostly a holdover from previous editions. The ubiquitous Wireless Everywhere (and Skinlink) didn't exist back then, nor was there the free interoperability of devices through the commlink.
So if you had three jacked devices you needed to use at the same time, you had to have three datajacks to plug them all in. -k |
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Jan 14 2011, 06:11 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Honestly, you can plug chips into basically any device, and you can get anything that comes on a chip in a no-chip version. Datajacks have only one purpose: connect a wire.
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Jan 14 2011, 06:11 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,113 Joined: 27-November 10 Member No.: 19,186 |
The question remains: I buy a datajack.
I don't want to jack into a sim module, I don't want to wear trodes, I want my knowsofts hidden and directly fitted... I now have the moral equivalent to a fiber optic jack in the back of my head, and maybe alongside it a nifty little USB equivalent slot. How many knowsofts can I slot simultaneously? |
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Jan 14 2011, 06:12 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
As many as you care to, and why are they on chips anyway? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jan 14 2011, 06:14 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,113 Joined: 27-November 10 Member No.: 19,186 |
As many as you care to, and why are they on chips anyway? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Because my core rulebook tells me that I have to interface with knowsofts by way of a simsense unit or a DNI... |
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Jan 14 2011, 06:17 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Right. That's the same as most AR and all VR. You're not slotting the matrix, are you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) BTLs are available (perhaps predominant) as direct downloads now, too. Also… trodes!
SR4A p330: "Software can be purchased online or on hardcopy chip." |
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Jan 14 2011, 06:19 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 583 Joined: 1-October 09 From: France Member No.: 17,693 |
Physically, one at a time - if you have a single USB port and plug an USB key into it you cannot plug that nifty external hard disk without removing the key first !
But if the chips you slot allow it's content to be copied to the internal memory of the datajack and used after it's removal you can "chain-slot" them to load several of them. |
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Jan 14 2011, 06:22 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Your commlink has a chipjack (one or more), as well.
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Jan 14 2011, 06:25 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 28-September 10 Member No.: 19,081 |
Another reason multiple datajacks might be useful is if you're packing guns with trigger-removal modifications. If you don't want the gun to be wireless, and also don't have the leeway to use up a weapon mod slot for skinlink, having datajack cables is useful. The access points don't NEED to be coming from your head and the fiber optic cable also can double as a lanyard in a pinch.
Other than that, I'd say it's mostly flavor, as technically speaking any DNI uses a datajack has can be done better with skinlink + trodes. Although there is a point in one of the shadowtalk fluffs where they claim datajacks fiber optics have better bandwidth than wireless. Not that there are stats for it |
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Jan 14 2011, 06:26 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 356 Joined: 3-April 10 Member No.: 18,409 |
There are still systems/devices that only accept wired connections, though they are a lot rarer. A buildings security system may very well be one, requiring the Spyder sit in a room deep in the bowels, physically plugged in.
Knowsofts need a DNI/Simsense connection, so would need either a datajack, internal commlink, or a 'trode net. You could even argue that datajacks aren't truly necessary in 2072; implant a commlink, install a sim module, and access everything wirelessly. |
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Jan 14 2011, 06:31 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,113 Joined: 27-November 10 Member No.: 19,186 |
Okay, I love the idea of chain loading softs into internal memory. Do we have any canon documentation on how much is too much? Skillwires top out at double their rating in software ratings, but we don't have any such limitations on other things.
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Jan 14 2011, 06:36 PM
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649 |
Remember, you can store your knowsofts on your commlink.
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Jan 14 2011, 06:36 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
No, there are effectively no limits on data storage or bandwidth in SR4.
Exactly: you can store *everything* on your commlink. I hope that fiber optic lanyard is hella reinforced. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Safer to get a lanyard and *add* the fiber optic to it, I'd imagine. |
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Jan 14 2011, 06:43 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 944 Joined: 19-February 03 Member No.: 4,128 |
The last ex-military sniper I made for a player had a pair of datajacks, one for the weapon, and one for a satcomm or secondary sensor.
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Jan 14 2011, 06:46 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
One for the Network, one for the independent Terminal that isn't connected to the Matrix, and one for the "FunHappyLoyalty Assurance" Machine.
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Jan 14 2011, 07:06 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
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Jan 14 2011, 07:16 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,113 Joined: 27-November 10 Member No.: 19,186 |
Just read some more about softs in Unwired. I begin to understand the people who stuck with older versions of the game now - wirelessly downloading software onto your comm, that feeds into your brain by way of trode nets really lacks the visceral punch of having a device mounted in your noggin that you slot microSD cards into...
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Jan 14 2011, 07:20 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
It's true that it's a different kind of cyberpunk.
On that note, this is interesting (and perhaps even on-topic?): http://theatlantic.tumblr.com/post/2747352...ut-gordon-gekko |
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Jan 14 2011, 07:30 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,113 Joined: 27-November 10 Member No.: 19,186 |
It's true that it's a different kind of cyberpunk. On that note, this is interesting (and perhaps even on-topic?): http://theatlantic.tumblr.com/post/2747352...ut-gordon-gekko Man, I love living in the future. Now where's my dietware? Screw the jetpacks... |
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Jan 14 2011, 07:32 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
Nice.
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Jan 14 2011, 09:00 PM
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
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Jan 14 2011, 09:04 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
The RAW doesn't say it doesn't (ditto for the camera, headphones, etc.). We can presume that you could slot a chip, implant the link, and use that chip forever; there is literally no reason for this, given the alternatives.
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Jan 14 2011, 09:40 PM
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Save some essence, have it implanted in a way so you can put the chip into the jack via your ear for example . .
You'd have to keep them clean though ^^ |
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