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> How to make an archer, A Green Arrow, so to speak
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:16 PM
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If I wanted to make an effective shadowrunner who specialized in the use of a bow (not a crossbow), how would I go about it and what should I keep in mind? I'd rather not make him a troll, no matter how optimal that might be.
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:17 PM
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Then make him an Ork. Adept too.
Max out strength, max out adept powers that help with the bow shooty skill.
get the bow modified as far as possible.
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:19 PM
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Don't forget the stupid bright green robin hood costume. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:20 PM
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Yeh, you can get points for that.
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Feb 9 2011, 10:19 PM) *
Don't forget the stupid bright green robin hood costume. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)


Distinctive Style? I heard Distinctive Style.
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:22 PM
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Sounded like Compulsive to me.
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:22 PM
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We all heard distinctive style.
beauty of it all?
you can switch it off, due to clothes with ruthenium polymer covering . .
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:26 PM
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Is there a way to make a cybered archer? Can you even put a smartlink on a bow?
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:27 PM
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Of course you can.
And with MRSI Software, you now get what smartlink should have been capable of doing from the start too!
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:28 PM
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MRSI? Is that from 'War!'?
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:30 PM
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Yes, yes it is. Indeed. WAR! has made the TrollBowyers from the Troll Kingdom Schwarzwald in Germany the most feared Army-Unit in the World again ^^
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:32 PM
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe Baron Von Vanderplufe is a scarier fellow than I thought...
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:33 PM
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I don't have WAR! What is MRSI, and is it pronounced "mercy"? Because if it isn't, it should be.
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:33 PM
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Wouldn't that be a smartgun on a bow?
Smartlink is the add-on you stick into your image-link enabled visual sensor.
Or into your BRAIN if you're a technomancer.

The reason most people suggest Adept is that it's the most effective way to boost the Archery Skill. For a cybered character, you'd have to use something like a custom set of optimized limbs for archery, and reflex recorders or similar
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (braincraft @ Feb 9 2011, 11:33 PM) *
I don't have WAR! What is MRSI, and is it pronounced "mercy"? Because if it isn't, it should be.

It is. WAR! does point this out actually <.<
MRSI(Multiple Rounds Simultanous Impact). Meaning you can fire TWO arrows from ONE bow.
And they will hit the same target at the same time and thus add their damage for one big hit instead of each doing it's own little damage.
And then you can do this with MORE than 2 Bows too . .
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:41 PM
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What.
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Feb 9 2011, 11:41 PM) *
What.

IS IT GOOD FOR?
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post Feb 9 2011, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Feb 9 2011, 11:41 PM) *
What.


Yeah. It's an artillery targeting system meant to coordinate barrages, then goes into detail by saying, "Yeah, you can use archery with this too." The troll bowman unit can indeed fire a volley and have it all hit the same target.
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post Feb 9 2011, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Feb 9 2011, 02:53 PM) *
Yeah. It's an artillery targeting system meant to coordinate barrages, then goes into detail by saying, "Yeah, you can use archery with this too." The troll bowman unit can indeed fire a volley and have it all hit the same target.

I guess it makes mechanical sense, but talk about power creep!
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post Feb 9 2011, 11:23 PM
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And i repeat.
Seeing how this is a simple function of mathmatics/ballistics, a normal smartlink should allways have been able to do something like this.
Maybe you would have to have a mathmatical subprocessor linked to it for it to propperly work, but else? come on . .
And the Hardware-Requirements of the software are down right silly . .
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post Feb 10 2011, 03:05 AM
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The big issue for me has always been the single shot status of a bow, limited by the ability to ready arrows.

Purchase Krav Maga's benefit that makes readying weapons a free action, and you can fire one arrow and then two, alternating. Thats my understanding at least.

The other thing is the portability of a bow. Screw buying the collapsible one from arsenal, just get the easy break down upgrade on a normal bow. Definitely get a smartlink on that bow as well.

Good luck.
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post Feb 10 2011, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Feb 9 2011, 05:38 PM) *
It is. WAR! does point this out actually <.<
MRSI(Multiple Rounds Simultanous Impact). Meaning you can fire TWO arrows from ONE bow.
And they will hit the same target at the same time and thus add their damage for one big hit instead of each doing it's own little damage.
And then you can do this with MORE than 2 Bows too . .


But only if You fire both Arrows in 1 Ini Pass
This can be done only either with an allready nocked Arrow
or with an Adept with Quickdraw

BtT
what about a Troll Archer Adept
(from the Schwarzwald with the name of Arnold Weißenegger (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
An Ork with STR8 is also OK
You also need all the Gadget Arrows from Arsenal and even more
Plus a ....Smartquiver

Purchase Krav Maga's benefit that makes readying weapons a free action, and you can fire one arrow and then two, alternating. Thats my understanding at least.
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Sorry but Krav Maga with Bows still makes me sick, can't loose that bad feeling


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post Feb 10 2011, 10:04 AM
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Awwww... I thought this was going to be about Sterling Mallory Archer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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post Feb 10 2011, 03:34 PM
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Just to clarify by the way, I remember some discussion about this some time back (mainly on the silliness that is crossbows, IIRC) but wasn't able to find this:
What action is actually used to fire a bow, and by extension, is it simple or complex? From Medicineman's last comment, I'm deducing it's a simple action. Would that be Use Simple Object, or what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Feb 10 2011, 03:42 PM
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maybe "Use Skill"? but I think bows should be SA, maybe SS. The Reloading is the time consuming part and takes only a Simple Action. Releasing the arrow will not take longer.
Imagine the MRSI Troll Archer with 4 IP and Quickdraw firing 4x2 arrows per combat round. He needs a very large quiver...

Edit: I think War! answered the question indirectly. As you need to fire two rounds in the same pass for MRSI to work, bows have to be SA. Am I remembering wrong?
Edit2: Arsenal is missing the Grappling Hook Arrowhead!
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