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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 3-July 03 Member No.: 4,866 ![]() |
If I wanted to make an effective shadowrunner who specialized in the use of a bow (not a crossbow), how would I go about it and what should I keep in mind? I'd rather not make him a troll, no matter how optimal that might be.
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,537 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
Then make him an Ork. Adept too.
Max out strength, max out adept powers that help with the bow shooty skill. get the bow modified as far as possible. |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
Don't forget the stupid bright green robin hood costume. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,537 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
Yeh, you can get points for that.
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 ![]() |
Don't forget the stupid bright green robin hood costume. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Distinctive Style? I heard Distinctive Style. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 ![]() |
Sounded like Compulsive to me.
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,537 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
We all heard distinctive style.
beauty of it all? you can switch it off, due to clothes with ruthenium polymer covering . . |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 3-July 03 Member No.: 4,866 ![]() |
Is there a way to make a cybered archer? Can you even put a smartlink on a bow?
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,537 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
Of course you can.
And with MRSI Software, you now get what smartlink should have been capable of doing from the start too! |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 ![]() |
MRSI? Is that from 'War!'?
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,537 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
Yes, yes it is. Indeed. WAR! has made the TrollBowyers from the Troll Kingdom Schwarzwald in Germany the most feared Army-Unit in the World again ^^
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe Baron Von Vanderplufe is a scarier fellow than I thought...
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 3-July 03 Member No.: 4,866 ![]() |
I don't have WAR! What is MRSI, and is it pronounced "mercy"? Because if it isn't, it should be.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 28-September 10 Member No.: 19,081 ![]() |
Wouldn't that be a smartgun on a bow?
Smartlink is the add-on you stick into your image-link enabled visual sensor. Or into your BRAIN if you're a technomancer. The reason most people suggest Adept is that it's the most effective way to boost the Archery Skill. For a cybered character, you'd have to use something like a custom set of optimized limbs for archery, and reflex recorders or similar |
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,537 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
I don't have WAR! What is MRSI, and is it pronounced "mercy"? Because if it isn't, it should be. It is. WAR! does point this out actually <.< MRSI(Multiple Rounds Simultanous Impact). Meaning you can fire TWO arrows from ONE bow. And they will hit the same target at the same time and thus add their damage for one big hit instead of each doing it's own little damage. And then you can do this with MORE than 2 Bows too . . |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 ![]() |
What.
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,537 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 ![]() |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,768 Joined: 31-October 08 From: Redmond (Yes, really) Member No.: 16,558 ![]() |
Yeah. It's an artillery targeting system meant to coordinate barrages, then goes into detail by saying, "Yeah, you can use archery with this too." The troll bowman unit can indeed fire a volley and have it all hit the same target. I guess it makes mechanical sense, but talk about power creep! |
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,537 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
And i repeat.
Seeing how this is a simple function of mathmatics/ballistics, a normal smartlink should allways have been able to do something like this. Maybe you would have to have a mathmatical subprocessor linked to it for it to propperly work, but else? come on . . And the Hardware-Requirements of the software are down right silly . . |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 ![]() |
The big issue for me has always been the single shot status of a bow, limited by the ability to ready arrows.
Purchase Krav Maga's benefit that makes readying weapons a free action, and you can fire one arrow and then two, alternating. Thats my understanding at least. The other thing is the portability of a bow. Screw buying the collapsible one from arsenal, just get the easy break down upgrade on a normal bow. Definitely get a smartlink on that bow as well. Good luck. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Good ol' Germany Member No.: 7,015 ![]() |
It is. WAR! does point this out actually <.< MRSI(Multiple Rounds Simultanous Impact). Meaning you can fire TWO arrows from ONE bow. And they will hit the same target at the same time and thus add their damage for one big hit instead of each doing it's own little damage. And then you can do this with MORE than 2 Bows too . . But only if You fire both Arrows in 1 Ini Pass This can be done only either with an allready nocked Arrow or with an Adept with Quickdraw BtT what about a Troll Archer Adept (from the Schwarzwald with the name of Arnold Weißenegger (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) An Ork with STR8 is also OK You also need all the Gadget Arrows from Arsenal and even more Plus a ....Smartquiver Purchase Krav Maga's benefit that makes readying weapons a free action, and you can fire one arrow and then two, alternating. Thats my understanding at least. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) Sorry but Krav Maga with Bows still makes me sick, can't loose that bad feeling He who dances in the Black Forest Medicineman |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 ![]() |
Awwww... I thought this was going to be about Sterling Mallory Archer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 ![]() |
Just to clarify by the way, I remember some discussion about this some time back (mainly on the silliness that is crossbows, IIRC) but wasn't able to find this:
What action is actually used to fire a bow, and by extension, is it simple or complex? From Medicineman's last comment, I'm deducing it's a simple action. Would that be Use Simple Object, or what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 18,036 ![]() |
maybe "Use Skill"? but I think bows should be SA, maybe SS. The Reloading is the time consuming part and takes only a Simple Action. Releasing the arrow will not take longer.
Imagine the MRSI Troll Archer with 4 IP and Quickdraw firing 4x2 arrows per combat round. He needs a very large quiver... Edit2: Arsenal is missing the Grappling Hook Arrowhead! |
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