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 Mar 17 2011, 07:27 AM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113  |
The simplest solutions are often the best. In any plan we do we have to hack the computer system to disable any monitoring, and ensure that the gardeners don't interfere. For purposes of planning my personal view is that I would rather we ensured the main objective first, and if our solution gives us the bonus then hurrah! In order of simplicity the plans I think are easy look like this.
The plans that appeal to me the most are bribing someone to move the plant or posing as / replacing a guest. The idea of a physical insertion is also possible, but I think much more likely to go wrong: there are guests there are guards and there are dogs. |
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Mar 17 2011, 07:43 AM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,534 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 17 2011, 04:13 AM)  Just noticed - the timing of the "replacement" gardener idea wouldn't get us the 48 hour bonus. Gardener is scheduled on the 22, from 7am - 1pm. Change needs to last until the 23, until 6pm. This would give us at max, ~ 35 hours. Nah, I think you got that part wrong. It is 48h starting at "4am on the 23rd". So longer than the required "6pm". "We need the alterations to be in effect no later than 4am on the 23rd and remain undetected until 6pm, the longer the period the better though." Generally, I think we should start after the gardener has left, so on the 22nd afternoon/evening (more likely the evening). What we need is a way to tamper with the various security systems/watchdogs without it being noticed. Bye Thanee |
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Mar 17 2011, 07:51 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,473 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Beijing Member No.: 18,611 |
QUOTE (Thanee @ Mar 17 2011, 03:43 PM) Nah, I think you got that part wrong. It is 48h starting at "4am on the 23rd". So longer than the required "6pm". "We need the alterations to be in effect no later than 4am on the 23rd and remain undetected until 6pm, the longer the period the better though." yeah, I think you're right - Edana, is this correct? should we be having our planning sessions somewhat IC? just askin' |
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Mar 17 2011, 02:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 263 Joined: 20-April 10 Member No.: 18,479 |
QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 17 2011, 02:51 AM) yeah, I think you're right - Edana, is this correct? should we be having our planning sessions somewhat IC? just askin' If you want clarifications or info from Mr. Lee, you'll have to ask IC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . I don't mind if you do some planning OOC, some concepts are easier to explain that way, but you'll probably be better served by doing a fair amount IC as well. |
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Mar 18 2011, 06:31 PM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,534 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
Aha, ok. So it's the other way around (from what I thought (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ). Well, that makes it a bit trickier, I guess, as it involved dealing with the gardener.
Bye Thanee |
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Mar 21 2011, 07:32 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
So although we need a plan, I think there are at least three things that need doing no matter what we are going to end up doing:
I'm not optimal for any of these tasks, so I suggest I hold your coat tails while you lot do it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 21 2011, 07:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 263 Joined: 20-April 10 Member No.: 18,479 |
Hehe, can't be giving you a bonus without it taking some effort (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) .
Anyhow, updated IC, the envelope contains 6 certified credsticks with 4,500 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) each, plus the commlink he mentioned. The two credsticks pulled from his pocket were 1,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) and 2,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) . If I forgot anything, just let me know and I'll edit it in. |
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Mar 21 2011, 08:53 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649 |
You still owe me my data searches.
Also, I want to do a scan for listening devices, etc etc. I really hate the idea of planning something illegal in a room I have no control over. |
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Mar 21 2011, 09:47 PM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,534 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
QUOTE (Edana @ Mar 21 2011, 08:55 PM) If I forgot anything, just let me know and I'll edit it in. The ninjas? Ah, I see, that was on purpose! Bye Thanee P.S. @sabs: We do not have to stay there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Mar 21 2011, 10:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 12-November 10 Member No.: 19,169 |
I hope everyone agrees that we should make the changes during the New Year’s celebrations.
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Mar 23 2011, 02:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 263 Joined: 20-April 10 Member No.: 18,479 |
QUOTE (sabs @ Mar 21 2011, 03:53 PM) You still owe me my data searches. Also, I want to do a scan for listening devices, etc etc. I really hate the idea of planning something illegal in a room I have no control over. Added the data search info. If you still want to scan the room even though you're leaving, you'll need to roll EW+Scan. If you don't care about that because you're leaving, that's fine too. QUOTE (Thanee @ Mar 21 2011, 04:47 PM) The ninjas? Ah, I see, that was on purpose! Drat! You weren't supposed to notice them until later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) . Mickle: Max is in danger of getting hit by a bus on the way to the new location (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . |
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Mar 23 2011, 04:08 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,745 Joined: 30-November 07 From: St. Louis Streets Member No.: 14,433 |
QUOTE (Edana @ Mar 22 2011, 08:32 PM) Mickle: Max is in danger of getting hit by a bus on the way to the new location (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . got 3 days, don't I? I'll try to get something written up tomorrow. School's been busy. |
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Mar 23 2011, 08:27 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
I'm still learning everyone's capabilities. My thoughts on the immediate future are that we meet to plan, and my starter is that we need more information:
I don't see much downside to doing the "hack the system" now. Almost certainly there will be cameras that we can look through, and we can work out if there are any software systems watching the plants. We may even find out where people live. My contacts: Shen Li L3C3 Red Pole Triad, and Han Hung Fixer who runs a dodgy establishment / pit fighting Etiquette + Charisma + C = 9 die. Wow. Shen Li is the man. Dragon by name and knowledgeable dragon by nature: 7 successes. We'll skip over Han's "huh. what. do you know what day it is...I'm busy" |
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Mar 23 2011, 08:57 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,473 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Beijing Member No.: 18,611 |
We're definitely going to need some good Matrix hacking of the facility - I think Fractal will earn his pay on this run (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
The sooner we start probing the system, the better I think - long, slow hacks work better than on-the-fly hacks. Even though we don't have a real plan yet, it seems like the "big 2" areas of concern are the security system, and the gardener. These could be broken down into smaller chunks as well. Oh, and we should try to figure out who this garden belongs to - there's a house right next to the garden, isnt' there? or is that the guard outhouse? |
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Mar 23 2011, 09:02 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,473 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Beijing Member No.: 18,611 |
1. Security System
a. Guards (in a small outbuilding...about 50 meters from the entrance of the garden...always at least 2 guards on active duty...3rd guard maintaining overwatch at all times) b. Dogs c. Drones (4 active at any time, spares available on-site) d. Matrix (cameras, alarms, monitored circuits on plant bases) e. Magic (typically 2 watchers patrolling the astral space around the retreat, and a mage is probably kept on-call) f. "area you will be operating in is owned by a local corporation with no known ties to any of the double or triple-A's" 2. Gardener a. Li Shen Chang b. spent a considerable amount of time in a monastery during his youth c. seems to have some magical talent d. "next scheduled visit is on the 22nd from 7am to 1pm" e. Where does he live? f. How can we influence him? g. Is there a backup protocol if he doesn't make his rounds? |
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Mar 23 2011, 09:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 12-November 10 Member No.: 19,169 |
QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 23 2011, 10:02 AM) 1. Security System a. Guards (in a small outbuilding...about 50 meters from the entrance of the garden...always at least 2 guards on active duty...3rd guard maintaining overwatch at all times) b. Dogs c. Drones (4 active at any time, spares available on-site) d. Matrix (cameras, alarms, monitored circuits on plant bases) e. Magic (typically 2 watchers patrolling the astral space around the retreat, and a mage is probably kept on-call) f. "area you will be operating in is owned by a local corporation with no known ties to any of the double or triple-A's" a. I think we can only use stealth or they'll know something happened. b. We could drug them for a few minutes, anything longer and the guards will know something happened. c+d. Hacking seems the only way to me. e. Distraction? |
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Mar 23 2011, 01:40 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,745 Joined: 30-November 07 From: St. Louis Streets Member No.: 14,433 |
laes?
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Mar 23 2011, 02:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 12-November 10 Member No.: 19,169 |
QUOTE (Mickle5125 @ Mar 23 2011, 02:40 PM) laes? A leash to hold the dogs won't stop them from barking, but if they're only there to attack intruders and not to alert the guards it would be enough. |
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Mar 23 2011, 03:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 263 Joined: 20-April 10 Member No.: 18,479 |
I think he means the drug Laes which can erase memories, though it's not exactly easy to get.
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Mar 23 2011, 03:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 12-November 10 Member No.: 19,169 |
QUOTE (Edana @ Mar 23 2011, 04:04 PM) I think he means the drug Laes which can erase memories, though it's not exactly easy to get. Ah, Leäl would work too, but the problem with using drugs on the guards is that they'll know something has happened. |
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Mar 24 2011, 02:32 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
QUOTE Dante trusted that Dr. Yang and Max had the magical side covered. Good point. Best way to deal with that is to be in a warded place IMHO and we aren't in "our" warded place...So this is a second best that should offer some security: Summoning Rank 4 fire elemental: no drain and 2 services [ Spoiler ] (I didn't post an OOC for the watchers because they are trivial to summon, and I will just use the 4:1 rule) |
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Mar 24 2011, 03:15 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,473 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Beijing Member No.: 18,611 |
I wasn't trying to imply anything, really - just that Dante heard them talking about "watchers" and sorta saw Dr. Yang doing something magical, and figured he must be doing something security-wise. Funny how these things work out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Mar 24 2011, 03:33 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
It really was a good point. If we stay together as a group though I suggest we make a safe meeting place: You computer types can deal with bugs and stuff and we magical types can do some serious warding. Thats for next mission though I suspect
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Mar 25 2011, 07:13 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,473 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Beijing Member No.: 18,611 |
Can I get an idea of the location surrounding the target garden? Specificially looking for tall buildings and such that we could look out over the garden. Trying to use my map-softs to help out with this.
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Mar 25 2011, 11:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 12-November 10 Member No.: 19,169 |
QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 25 2011, 07:26 AM) Kim and I can head over to the target location and do a visual observation of the area. I think you should call me Yuki, Hope or Kondo. |
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