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post Mar 18 2011, 08:10 AM
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Honestly, I think Clockwork might be the mole that sold out the baby.

Too cheap. And I'd like it far better if Netcat is nabbed too, and Slamm-IO has to choke his pride and ask Clockwork for help. Which, given he is paid, he'll offer. This guy's an ice cold mercenary, but that doesn'T mean he won't work for him. He probably just would bleed him for money.

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the best decker of his generation

Where do you have that from?

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Fastjack probably wouldn't interfere either unless someone broke the rules of the board. At least not directly. He has to remain neutral for Jackpoint to mean anything.

Of course he'd interfere. He staffed Jackpoint with his favorites. He'd just deny he did to outsiders.

Also, what if dissonant mancers kidnap hackbaby because they saw it as "the one"? Their avatar of chaos, come to make them take over the Matrix, whom they take to train and nurture him/her? Adventure novels need a dash of epic, otherwise we end up with wholly uninteresting stuff like Drops of Corruption.

And finally, being a fan of George R.R. Martin: What if the dissonant mancers are right?
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post Mar 18 2011, 01:49 PM
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Clockwork would be perfect as a scapegoat, though.



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post Mar 18 2011, 02:16 PM
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Maybe Clockwork wants to prevent the Second Coming of Deus?

Of course, if whoever kidnapped the baby wanted this shitstorm, then I guess some GD/IE/AAA is getting framed for it.
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post Mar 18 2011, 02:42 PM
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Meanwhile in Essen;

"Yes everything is going to plan."

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Couldn't resist.
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post Mar 18 2011, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 18 2011, 03:10 AM) *
Where do you have that from?

Slamm-O! is the only decker of his generation that got a profile in Target: Matrix. That means the corps are watching him just as much as they are Fastjack, The Smiling Bandit, SilveryK, Michael Sutherland, etc. He was 19 at the time his profile was made, and the others were all in their 20s-30s. He made the transition to Matrix 2.0 with no problems (even mocking other deckers for having to leave their basements now) and is now considered in the top tier as a member of Jackpoint before even turning 30. Not counting otaku/technomancers, I can't think of anyone who's managed such accomplishments at his age.
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post Mar 18 2011, 05:20 PM
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It's worth pointing out that this may be because other deckers of his quality and age aren't the massive gloryhound loudmouths he is, too.
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post Mar 18 2011, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 18 2011, 02:49 PM) *
Clockwork would be perfect as a scapegoat, though.



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I have some...ideas along these veins. Something with an ending that will make one sit back and say, "Yep, THAT is Shadowrun right there."
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post Mar 18 2011, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Mar 18 2011, 12:26 PM) *
I have some...ideas along these veins. Something with an ending that will make one sit back and say, "Yep, THAT is Shadowrun right there."

Check this out then.
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post Mar 18 2011, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 18 2011, 07:57 PM) *
Check this out then.


I did. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) There's a partial storyboard for what amounts to the lead-in for the first book.

I was torn on whether or not Netcat should be taken as well. Might do a second pitch and see how it fills out. Having competing storylines that merge is pretty popular right now, but I don't want to see too many viewpoint swaps.

I'm torn! So torn! I see Hackbaby's abduction and return as the opening salvo in a larger arc. I see a few other points of possible awesomeness. I need to stop doing this. Damn you for highlighting another project!
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post Mar 18 2011, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Mar 18 2011, 02:30 PM) *
Damn you for highlighting another project!

Glad to be of service. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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post Mar 18 2011, 11:48 PM
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Dear Lord! All I wanted to know was who is Netcat's baby's father?

I love where the discussion has gone. Keep it up, good people.
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post Mar 18 2011, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 17 2011, 05:36 PM) *
You know, I just realized how scary a child that's going to be, with all those role models growing up. "Alright kid, Uncle Kane is going to teach you how to use an AK-97!"
Am I the only one to imagine enthusiastic Joseph D. Kucan in a leather jacket reading that?
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post Mar 19 2011, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE (Troyminator @ Mar 18 2011, 06:48 PM) *
Dear Lord! All I wanted to know was who is Netcat's baby's father?

I love where the discussion has gone. Keep it up, good people.

When I derail a thread, the damage done to the environment and passengers is epic!
QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 18 2011, 06:53 PM) *
Am I the only one to imagine enthusiastic Joseph D. Kucan in a leather jacket reading that?

It's who I was thinking of.

Now imagine him in the "UNCLE KANE IS COMING FOR YOU!!!" scene.
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post Mar 20 2011, 12:10 AM
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Kane lives!
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post Mar 20 2011, 12:40 AM
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*Humph* The idea is popular here, but the moment I move it, no forward motion at all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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post Mar 20 2011, 09:30 PM
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I'm not normally the pessimistic sort, but I can definitely see CGL nipping this in the bud by having Netcat miscarry or something. They might even go the soap opera route and have Slamm-O! NOT be the father.


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[Bad two-feet. Leave baby. Kitty can scratch.]
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post Mar 20 2011, 10:17 PM
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Part of me could see kidnapping the kid as a way to get a lot of these bigshots to come out and possibly leave themselves exposed.
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post Mar 20 2011, 10:21 PM
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That's true. FastJack is probably wanted on a variety of things for the last 50-some odd years of hacking/decking/hacking...

Kane is wanted in HOW many countries?

Slamm-0!s parents are First Generation Shadowrunners as well.

And there's the rest of the reprobates.

But expose them to take them, or expose them to use them as useful tools? Which would be more profitable.

Not much profit in vengeance...
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post Mar 21 2011, 06:59 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 20 2011, 03:21 PM) *
That's true. FastJack is probably wanted on a variety of things for the last 50-some odd years of hacking/decking/hacking...

Kane is wanted in HOW many countries?

Slamm-0!s parents are First Generation Shadowrunners as well.

And there's the rest of the reprobates.

But expose them to take them, or expose them to use them as useful tools? Which would be more profitable.

Not much profit in vengeance...

Well, are we operating under the belief that MCT's taken the kid to see what a born virtuakinetic is like? Burning the Rose Garden seems to implicate MCT involvement on some level. Those guys aren't gonna be looking for vengeance if it doesn't profit them. Aztech would take the baby for study and sacrifice the rest. I think that whoever's pulling the strings needs them for something. Burning the Rose Garden to pull out Puck in Exchange for what?
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post Mar 21 2011, 03:32 PM
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Who says it's one of the Megas? There are a lot of other groups out there that need some dirty work done...

MCT with the Rose Garden, yes, good option. And they can get the Puck out of there too at the same time. Or what's left of him.

AZT, less likely. They're a boogieman for so many other things... That said, they also need a lot of dirty, dirty work done.

It could be a rogue spy agency of some country that needs deniable assets to do something really nasty. And they're more likely to pull the, "Just one more job..." that gets the 'Runners all ready for carnage, destruction, and mayhem.

PoliClubs are always a popular choice. Alamos 20K making a come-back would be a good option, full of crazy and professional at the same time. (They're a good suggestion for a Pink Mohawk wearing a Black Trenchcoat. Surprised I didn't think of them for that thread.).

Just some ideas...
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post Mar 21 2011, 07:45 PM
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I agree with Canray, way to many possible bad guys out there to count, i mean hades, i could see the "Ressurect the US" camp in the UCAS being behind it in a move to make things way to hot for the megas by framing them....see, so many possibilities.

Now canray, you know you have opened yet another can of worms and now i have to see this published in DDH as well
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post Mar 21 2011, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 20 2011, 05:21 PM) *
FastJack is probably wanted on a variety of things for the last 50-some odd years of hacking/decking/hacking...

To be wanted, you'd have to be able to keep a notice in your computer systems. It's canon that Fastjack constantly goes around wiping data about him almost as fast as they can write it (the post in Target: Matrix being an exception).
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post Mar 22 2011, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 19 2011, 08:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 19 2011, 12:53 AM) *

Am I the only one to imagine enthusiastic Joseph D. Kucan in a leather jacket reading that?

It's who I was thinking of.

Now imagine him in the "UNCLE KANE IS COMING FOR YOU!!!" scene.

And I just did. Oh, my...
You just made my day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 22 2011, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 20 2011, 12:40 AM) *
*Humph* The idea is popular here, but the moment I move it, no forward motion at all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)


These things tend to catch me when I'm in the middle of school/work projects, so I have some creativity to burn but not a lot of forward imputeus since I'm barricaded by grades. See alt.War (but you can't see my Auchwitz project since I havent' posted it, har).

The Rose Garden idea is one I'd like to run with for the first book just because I view the Excahnge as a product of the Deep Resonance. I also want to explore whether or not it has a soul. It has self-preservation, certainly, as it wants the 'runners not to save the TM's in the Rose Garden, butkill them. It will be the moral horizon for the team as to whether or not they want to do that.

Now, if Netcat had gotten nabbed and planted in there...that might make for some good reading.
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post Mar 22 2011, 03:50 PM
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Ah, but Puck has been nabbed and is there. So they already have someone they know and...

"So, we have to kill a bunch of these people and... Drek, it'd be a mercy! Look at them! I haven't seen anything like this since Chicago!" "Yeah, but, this would be out-and-out cold blood killing. We should have brought Kane. And... OH GHOST! PUCK! THEY GOT PUCK! THOSE BASTARDS!" "He's been here... All the time? Puck man, say something!" *Puck barely whispers* "Come on man, tell us, what's going on?" "K... K-k-k-k... Kill me."

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"A mercy."
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