 RPGs are totally useless., Hasn't anyone seen Clear & Present Danger?! |
 Mar 17 2011, 08:45 PM
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Rockets scatter 4d6 meters (-1 meter per net hit), averaging at least 12 meters. 12 hits on a success test with heavy weapons is basically never going to happen without massively pumping a dice pool. And that is bevore comparing the opponent's defense pool, making the total net hits for a direct hit with a rocket something like 15 or 16, easy. See thread title. WTF?! Way to have yet another totally useless rule, SR4A. |
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noonesshowmonkey RPGs are totally useless. Mar 17 2011, 08:45 PM
Yerameyahu Yup. Known issue. Houserule it a little. It should... Mar 17 2011, 08:51 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (noonesshowmonkey @ Mar 17 2011, 02... Mar 17 2011, 09:03 PM
noonesshowmonkey QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 17 2011, 05... Mar 17 2011, 09:12 PM Method Didn't somebody come up with a good house rule... Mar 17 2011, 09:06 PM Doc Chase I came in here and thought, "What does a Jack... Mar 17 2011, 09:10 PM TheFr0g QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Mar 17 2011, 10:10 PM)... Mar 17 2011, 09:16 PM noonesshowmonkey QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Mar 17 2011, 05:10 PM)... Mar 17 2011, 09:19 PM Fix-it rockets, missiles, and grenades have a blast radiu... Mar 17 2011, 09:43 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Fix-it @ Mar 17 2011, 03:43 P... Mar 17 2011, 09:57 PM Fix-it QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 17 2011, 03... Mar 17 2011, 10:05 PM Critias QUOTE (Fix-it @ Mar 17 2011, 05:05 P... Mar 17 2011, 10:29 PM StealthSigma QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 17 2011, 04... Mar 18 2011, 02:57 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Mar 18 2011, 08:57 ... Mar 18 2011, 03:51 PM Critias Also, before bemoaning the terrible inaccuracy and... Mar 17 2011, 09:51 PM Jhaiisiin Yeah, but guided missiles don't generally miss... Mar 17 2011, 09:52 PM Fix-it QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Mar 17 2011, 03:52 PM)... Mar 17 2011, 09:59 PM kzt QUOTE (Fix-it @ Mar 17 2011, 02:59 P... Mar 18 2011, 02:24 AM Fix-it QUOTE (kzt @ Mar 17 2011, 08:24 PM) PGMs ... Mar 18 2011, 04:22 AM Jhaiisiin I didn't say SAM, though I do realize that any... Mar 17 2011, 10:03 PM Yerameyahu What stationary target dice are you getting, exact... Mar 17 2011, 10:33 PM Fix-it shit. replied to all these, then browser ate my po... Mar 17 2011, 11:07 PM Mäx QUOTE (Fix-it @ Mar 18 2011, 01:07 A... Mar 17 2011, 11:16 PM Yerameyahu Sometimes, yes, but *most* of the times… Th... Mar 17 2011, 11:13 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 17 2011, 04:13 PM... Mar 18 2011, 01:15 AM Fix-it if it's really important that you hit that veh... Mar 17 2011, 11:46 PM Yerameyahu Indeed, I pointed out that the airburst eliminates... Mar 17 2011, 11:52 PM Fix-it QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 17 2011, 05:52 PM... Mar 18 2011, 12:02 AM Mäx QUOTE (Fix-it @ Mar 18 2011, 02:02 A... Mar 18 2011, 12:54 AM Garvel This is our houserule for blast weapons. It is pre... Mar 17 2011, 11:58 PM CanRay OK, maybe it's just me being a Civvie, but isn... Mar 18 2011, 01:30 AM Critias The simple version (as I understand it):
A bomb i... Mar 18 2011, 01:35 AM CanRay "Don't attract attention, it annoys every... Mar 18 2011, 02:54 AM X-Kalibur QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 17 2011, 07:54 PM) ... Mar 18 2011, 03:45 AM Jhaiisiin If missiles, rockets and such consistently missed ... Mar 18 2011, 04:24 AM Yerameyahu You can get close. It's just very unlikely. Mar 18 2011, 04:34 AM Jhaiisiin If I'm a professional person whose job it is t... Mar 18 2011, 04:36 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Mar 17 2011, 10:36 PM)... Mar 18 2011, 12:54 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 18 2011, 01... Mar 18 2011, 01:42 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Mar 18 2011, 07:42 A... Mar 18 2011, 02:21 PM kzt QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 18 2011, 05... Mar 19 2011, 06:00 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (kzt @ Mar 19 2011, 12:00 AM) Don... Mar 19 2011, 02:55 PM CanRay QUOTE (kzt @ Mar 19 2011, 01:00 AM) Don... Mar 19 2011, 03:06 PM K1ll5w1tch QUOTE (kzt @ Mar 18 2011, 11:00 PM) Don... Mar 20 2011, 04:24 AM Epicedion QUOTE (K1ll5w1tch @ Mar 20 2011, 12:24 AM... Mar 20 2011, 04:41 AM CanRay QUOTE (kzt @ Mar 19 2011, 01:00 AM) Don... Mar 20 2011, 04:29 AM Yerameyahu Hmf. No more jokes wasted on you, then.
On the o... Mar 18 2011, 04:40 AM Fix-it which is why you don't see many Professionals ... Mar 18 2011, 04:42 AM kzt QUOTE (Fix-it @ Mar 17 2011, 09:42 P... Mar 19 2011, 05:58 AM Yerameyahu Hehe. Of course, the description applies to every ... Mar 18 2011, 04:59 AM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 18 2011, 05:59 AM... Mar 18 2011, 07:56 AM Aerospider Something I haven't seen mentioned in this thr... Mar 18 2011, 12:57 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Aerospider @ Mar 18 2011, 06:57 AM... Mar 18 2011, 01:16 PM Mäx QUOTE (Aerospider @ Mar 18 2011, 02:57 PM... Mar 18 2011, 02:02 PM DWC This problem is pretty much why the Ares Heimdahl ... Mar 18 2011, 01:24 PM DWC This problem is pretty much why the Ares Heimdahl ... Mar 18 2011, 01:24 PM Yerameyahu I'm positive that the normal use case for a LA... Mar 18 2011, 02:09 PM Dakka Dakka I'm not very familiar with military equipment,... Mar 18 2011, 02:28 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Mar 18 2011, 08:28 A... Mar 18 2011, 02:36 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Mar 18 2011, 09:28 A... Mar 18 2011, 03:20 PM kzt QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Mar 18 2011, 07:28 A... Mar 19 2011, 06:07 AM Ascalaphus What about an "Aim Launcher" Complex act... Mar 18 2011, 02:33 PM Yerameyahu Dakka Dakka: Dunno. You're probably getting to... Mar 18 2011, 02:33 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 18 2011, 03:33 PM... Mar 18 2011, 02:40 PM Ascalaphus QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 18 2011, 03:33 PM... Mar 18 2011, 02:49 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Mar 18 2011, 08:49 AM... Mar 18 2011, 03:30 PM James McMurray This is the world of Shadowrun. Corporations suppl... Mar 18 2011, 02:50 PM Fix-it QUOTE (James McMurray @ Mar 18 2011, 08:5... Mar 18 2011, 03:25 PM Jhaiisiin Honestly, I'm cool with players dying if they ... Mar 18 2011, 05:08 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Mar 18 2011, 10:08 AM)... Mar 18 2011, 05:31 PM Draco18s How about...?
See new scatter chart:
CODETarget ... Mar 18 2011, 05:29 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 18 2011, 06:29 PM) ... Mar 18 2011, 06:25 PM Epicedion Some house rules to consider:
Thrown grenades sca... Mar 18 2011, 05:47 PM Draco18s No, it makes perfect sense. A human only has to m... Mar 18 2011, 06:36 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 18 2011, 07:36 PM) ... Mar 18 2011, 06:44 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Mar 18 2011, 01:44 P... Mar 18 2011, 06:56 PM StealthSigma QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 18 2011, 02:56 PM) ... Mar 18 2011, 07:17 PM Yerameyahu Not that it often matters, but I'm fine with s... Mar 18 2011, 06:39 PM Mäx QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 18 2011, 08:39 PM... Mar 18 2011, 06:45 PM Epicedion QUOTE (Mäx @ Mar 18 2011, 02:45 PM) Yeah,... Mar 18 2011, 06:55 PM Yerameyahu Mäx, I was just responding Draco18s' suggestio... Mar 18 2011, 07:14 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 18 2011, 02:14 PM... Mar 18 2011, 07:32 PM Yerameyahu Targeting furniture is targeting a location. *shru... Mar 18 2011, 07:58 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 18 2011, 02:58 PM... Mar 18 2011, 08:02 PM Epicedion QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 18 2011, 04:02 PM) ... Mar 18 2011, 08:09 PM Mäx QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 18 2011, 10:02 PM) ... Mar 18 2011, 11:26 PM Draco18s Hence why I'd do it in missions. It has to ru... Mar 18 2011, 08:29 PM Stahlseele Anybody still remember the SR3 Ares Great Dragon A... Mar 18 2011, 08:31 PM Fatum This thread makes me want to cry. If you can't... Mar 18 2011, 11:33 PM CanRay What we need are more authors and rules creators t... Mar 19 2011, 07:26 AM Omenowl Well from a simulationist standpoint the ability t... Mar 20 2011, 06:21 AM Fatum QUOTE (Omenowl @ Mar 20 2011, 09:21 AM) T... Mar 20 2011, 12:24 PM Yerameyahu Right. Don't forget, those wide-area frag rock... Mar 20 2011, 01:46 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 20 2011, 08:46 AM... Mar 20 2011, 02:59 PM Stahlseele Hmm, one could change scatter depending on distanc... Mar 20 2011, 04:05 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 20 2011, 09:05 AM... Mar 20 2011, 04:08 PM Ascalaphus It seems so obvious, now that you mention it.
... Mar 20 2011, 04:27 PM pbangarth I read through the first page, and then skipped to... Mar 20 2011, 05:07 PM Yerameyahu Ideally, the range penalties are supposed to alrea... Mar 20 2011, 05:10 PM kzt The underlying problem is that the people who get ... Mar 20 2011, 06:26 PM  |
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