 Bringing a cyberdeck to a comlink fight, or transfering your Decker from SR3 to SR4 |
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  Mar 24 2011, 02:48 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 17-March 11 From: Quebec City, Quebec, Canada Member No.: 24,676  |
So I played my Decker through SR2 and SR3... and, of course, he's got a beast of a Cyberdeck... Next week, I'll be buying the SR4A book and, most likely, bringing him into it...
Now, the issue I think I'll have... Do I have to buy all my software again or can I just make a copy of my programs to the comlink? |
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Mar 24 2011, 04:04 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
The short answer is 'no'. Fluff-wise, it's a wholly different system; crunch-wise, it's a wholly different system.
In-character, your smart decker would (already did?) move with the change, buying/writing new programs for his new gear. You can, of course, do anything you want. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Personally, I can't imagine using a single character across campaigns, let alone editions, but I understand that some people get attached. |
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Mar 24 2011, 04:27 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Another option is making your old Cyberdeck into a small Nexus.
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Mar 24 2011, 04:50 AM
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Douche Group: Banned Posts: 1,584 Joined: 2-March 11 Member No.: 23,135 |
The cyberdeck itself is toast. There's no really good way to translate the deck's MPCP into SR4. Programs are (almost) equally toast, since program ratings don't line up quite right. Besides, SR4 is set 10 years in the future of SR3. No matter how bleeding-edge your deck was, it's going to be fossilized technology compared to simple off-the-shelf stuff in SR4.
Your best bet is to remake the character and work out with your GM whatever extra Karma and resources you get to keep. |
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Mar 24 2011, 04:51 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Or update the character from SR3 to SR4 using the conversion provided when SR4 first came out, and enjoy your new toy, mounting your old Cyberdeck on the wall like one would a trophy of a bygone era.
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Mar 24 2011, 04:56 AM
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Douche Group: Banned Posts: 1,584 Joined: 2-March 11 Member No.: 23,135 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 23 2011, 11:51 PM)  Or update the character from SR3 to SR4 using the conversion provided when SR4 first came out, and enjoy your new toy, mounting your old Cyberdeck on the wall like one would a trophy of a bygone era. 2060 Question: "What is this?" Answer: "Holy shit man that's my Fairlight Excalibur, modded with an extra 1000Mp of active memory, extra hardening, and this bad-ass Sleaze program I stole on that Renraku Arco run we did last month!" 2070 Question: "What is this?" Answer: "I dunno, some kinda doorstop I guess." |
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Mar 24 2011, 04:58 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
2070 Tutoring Lession:
"What is that?" *Smacks Skript Kiddie Upside the head* "That's History, boy! Learn from it or else!" |
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Mar 24 2011, 05:01 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 17-March 11 From: Quebec City, Quebec, Canada Member No.: 24,676 |
lol allright guys, I get it now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Mar 24 2011, 05:12 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Actually, rebuilding a Cyberdeck into a Nexi (Unwired) is a good idea. Maybe not for Shadowruns (Cyberdecks are very obvious and will attract a lot of attention), but useful for using for Matrix Oversight when you can Hack from Home (Or a Coffin Hotel), or for programming and data searches.
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Mar 24 2011, 05:16 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
Or house your monster commlink in your old deck for flavor purposes. There is something fun about having a piece of equipment the size of a yamaha synthesizer on your back.
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Mar 24 2011, 06:38 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Didn't Fastjack do that?
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Mar 24 2011, 06:57 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 24 2011, 11:38 AM) Didn't Fastjack do that? It was either FastJack or Bull. |
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Mar 24 2011, 07:55 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I hate to do this, but I hate even more not to: it's 'a Nexus', 'some Nexi'. :/
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Mar 24 2011, 08:30 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
thank you, it's important that stuff like this gets pointed out.
i was grinding my teeth when i read that . . figured it would not happen again later in the thread so kept reading ^^ |
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Mar 24 2011, 08:46 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
I'm pretty sure it's actually Nexi as a singular...
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Mar 24 2011, 08:49 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Mar 24 2011, 01:57 PM) It was either FastJack or Bull. They both did it, probably. FastJack just can't get away from his old Mac Processor. And Bull is confirmed as having done this in the DDH Download. I'm waiting for him to get teased about it now that he appears to be posting on the JackPoint. Then again, he's not a 70-year old human, so getting punched in the junk by him would REALLY hurt! |
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Mar 24 2011, 08:55 PM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
Bull's old Alpha Allegiance deck case shows up in Missions, so it's now canon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
And yeah, I fully expect Slamm-0! to give him crap about it, at the very least. Course, Slamm-0! may be too busy trying to figure out how to deal with a screaming baby (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 24 2011, 08:57 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Don't be silly, Xahn Borealis. Are you trolling me? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mar 24 2011, 09:00 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 10-June 10 From: St. Louis, UCAS/CAS Border Member No.: 18,688 |
QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 24 2011, 09:55 PM) Bull's old Alpha Allegiance deck case shows up in Missions, so it's now canon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And yeah, I fully expect Slamm-0! to give him crap about it, at the very least. Course, Slamm-0! may be too busy trying to figure out how to deal with a screaming baby (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Not if CanRay's Jackpointer novel gets a green light. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) |
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Mar 24 2011, 09:00 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 24 2011, 08:57 PM) Don't be silly, Xahn Borealis. Are you trolling me? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I call it grammarbaiting. |
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Mar 24 2011, 09:05 PM
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Douche Group: Banned Posts: 1,584 Joined: 2-March 11 Member No.: 23,135 |
I hate to do this even more:
Actually it's nexuses. And octopuses. Every word that ends in "-us" doesn't automatically pluralize to "-i" like "focus" does. |
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Mar 24 2011, 09:09 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
focusi? *snickers*
also, for octopus, it should be octopussy *runs for his life* |
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Mar 24 2011, 09:12 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I think you'll find that's not true, Epicedion. Even in real life, it's a case of multiple acceptable versions (and 'nexi' is never, ever singular); but we're talking about Shadowrun. In Unwired, the plural is canonically 'nexi'.
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Mar 24 2011, 09:18 PM
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Douche Group: Banned Posts: 1,584 Joined: 2-March 11 Member No.: 23,135 |
Focus, foci.
As to "nexi," I hope it's a linguistic joke on the part of the writers and not simply a mistake. While "octopi" is a semi-common mistake, it's still recognized in the dictionary as a semi-common mistake. Google search "nexi" and you come up with squat. Edit: also I don't have Unwired (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) |
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Mar 24 2011, 09:19 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Like I said: in Shadowrun. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Besides, no one wants to say 'nexuses'. That's awful.
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