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post Nov 11 2011, 12:30 PM
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Stacking is not available in Create mode(important for stacked items and plugins(like splash grenades).
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post Nov 11 2011, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (McDougle @ Nov 11 2011, 01:30 PM) *
Stacking is not available in Create mode(important for stacked items and plugins(like splash grenades).

Stacking in create mode is done by buying each stack separately. You can't split/join stacks but each "buy" is a separate stack so if you need to have 5 splash grenades with one product and 5 splash grenades with another product, just buy 5 splash grenades twice and add the accessories (products) once for each stack afterwards.
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post Nov 11 2011, 03:22 PM
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It seems I can add whatever I want as a plugin in my Googles / Glasses / Contact Lenses / Hearbuds (and probably other items). Wasn't that limited to relevent stuff before ?
Same thing for Commlinks etc.

I'm gonna add a parachute right now to my Googles ! It's better to be prepared ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 11 2011, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE (deurk @ Nov 10 2011, 06:48 PM) *
Don't find it either


In my copy of SR4a, under the section labelled Audio Enhancements:

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Audio enhancements are commonly available as earbuds or headphones. Each will play audio input from AR or other sources. Each enhancement costs 1 Capacity (per rating).


For clarification, I have the English 20th anniversary core rulebook.
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post Nov 11 2011, 06:46 PM
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Strange mine says:

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Audio enhancements are commonly available as earbuds or headphones. Each will play audio input from AR or other sources.

There must be a difference in printings, and since there is no errata for sr4a...

I would think that if audio enhancements work that way video would as well. What does it say under Video Enhancements?
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post Nov 11 2011, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowWalker @ Nov 11 2011, 01:46 PM) *
Strange mine says:


There must be a difference in printings, and since there is no errata for sr4a...

I would think that if audio enhancements work that way video would as well. What does it say under Video Enhancements?


The section on Vision Enhancements says:
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A number of options are available for installation in visual sensors and imaging devices. Each enhancement costs 1 Capacity

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post Nov 11 2011, 09:59 PM
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Interesting mine says:
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A number of options are available for installation in visual sensors and imaging devices.

I wonder which is the more recent version of the rules.
I wish they would release the errata for 4a. Strange how they have one be 1 per enhancement rating and the other is 1 per enhancement.
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post Nov 11 2011, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (Nebular @ Nov 10 2011, 10:19 PM) *
[*]all non-Suite, non-Hacked Matrix Programs now come with Copy Protection and Registration

Speaking of which...would it be possible to make Registration optional? We generally assume that the programs a runner uses come without such "goodies", and AFAIK that also is the rule used for Missions.
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post Nov 11 2011, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowWalker @ Nov 11 2011, 10:59 PM) *
Interesting mine says:

I wonder which is the more recent version of the rules.
I wish they would release the errata for 4a. Strange how they have one be 1 per enhancement rating and the other is 1 per enhancement.


Weird indeed, I got it in the French version and not in the English version.
French version mentions it is version 1.02 (April 2011), based on English version 1.00 (April 2009).
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post Nov 11 2011, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (Sengir @ Nov 11 2011, 05:43 PM) *
Speaking of which...would it be possible to make Registration optional? We generally assume that the programs a runner uses come without such "goodies", and AFAIK that also is the rule used for Missions.

Both program options come at no cost, and on top of that, you can delete both at no cost too.
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post Nov 12 2011, 05:00 PM
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A negative quality seems to have disappeared -- or never was added, dunno.

I can't find "enemy" (RC 104) on the list.
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post Nov 12 2011, 05:20 PM
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It's right under the contacts, under the attributes, not in the qualities field.
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post Nov 12 2011, 07:27 PM
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Thank you, Deurk.
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post Nov 12 2011, 11:46 PM
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Howdy, been loving chummer btw. However, have encountered a few minor issues and bugs when tracking a rigger character. I can see that vehicle modifications are largely unimplemented at this time so I will save most that wish list for a later time.

Bug when purchasing matrix programs in career mode as gear directly on a vehicle: it allows you to select the hacked option and displays the price correctly at time of purchase (which is good). But charges full price and notes the full priced charge on the expense sheet.

Bug when printing vehicles, the show and page-break options react randomly at best in the vehicle blocks. Would seem the xsl templates do not differentiate between individual vehicle blocks. I don't know enough about xsl to make my own yet.

Bug with Autosofts: Missing hacked option.

Issue with programs Pilot and System: No option to designate the device a pilot/system program was designed for. Pilot and System software are very specific to the make and model of the device they are running on, suffering a -2 dice-pool when applied to a similar product and etc. Thus, would prefer the option to manually enter device name after selecting program as done for the Maneuver and Targeting autosofts.

Minor issue/design choice: System, Firewall, Response, and Signal are duplicated multiple times each in the gear list. Yet, the rules are the same for them on all devices. As in system/firewall is always limited by response and can be "hacked" for installing on vehicles, commlinks, and anything else with an embedded computer. It would be a simpler design to maintain if only have one entry each.

Wish list item: house-rule to allow directly editing the base stats(device rating, base-response, base-signal, sensor, etc) of an individual vehicle. I figure this might be easier to implement before the rest the vehicle stuff gets added so am mentioning it now...

Hope I haven't rambled too much. I have a game to prepare for now. Many thanks for the awesome character builder and your hard work. Have fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 12 2011, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (someone3x7 @ Nov 12 2011, 07:46 PM) *
Bug when printing vehicles, the show and page-break options react randomly at best in the vehicle blocks. Would seem the xsl templates do not differentiate between individual vehicle blocks. I don't know enough about xsl to make my own yet.

I noticed this as well when I was working on the Vehicle Block template. This is a problem for all blocks that are repeated, like Commlinks and such.

I think I have a solution, but I have not tried it yet. I'll see if I can put some time into it this weekend.
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post Nov 13 2011, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (ShadowWalker @ Nov 10 2011, 09:48 AM) *
Operating Systems are System and Firewall bundled together.
The rules for software is crazy. The time it takes to hack it is long enough that you would spend most of your time hacking it and not actually running, and the rules for using non-hacked make it so easy to trace the user of non-hacked that you would be crazy to use non-hacked. It's like a catch-22. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Unwired also lists rules for piracy which greatly reduces the time to patch a hacked application since you can find p2p networks that have whole categories of apps to download in one shot.
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post Nov 13 2011, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE (someone3x7 @ Nov 12 2011, 07:18 PM) *
Unwired also lists rules for piracy which greatly reduces the time to patch a hacked application since you can find p2p networks that have whole categories of apps to download in one shot.

You still end up having to make rolls once a month to ensure you find what you need to update your software so it doesn't get degraded.
They should have just included all of these things into the price and left it the way it was.
You don't see street samurai or mages making monthly rolls to see if their cyberware or spells work properly every month.
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post Nov 13 2011, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE (KeyMasterOfGozer @ Nov 12 2011, 07:58 PM) *
I noticed this as well when I was working on the Vehicle Block template. This is a problem for all blocks that are repeated, like Commlinks and such.

I think I have a solution, but I have not tried it yet. I'll see if I can put some time into it this weekend.

Ok, I have made a fix for Multiple Vehicle/Drone printing. You will need to download these two files and put them in your chummer/sheets folder. When Nebular gets back from vacation, he can put up the files in the real updates.

Shadowrun 4 Base.xslt
Vehicle Block.xsl
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post Nov 13 2011, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE (ShadowWalker @ Nov 12 2011, 04:30 PM) *
You still end up having to make rolls once a month to ensure you find what you need to update your software so it doesn't get degraded.
They should have just included all of these things into the price and left it the way it was.
You don't see street samurai or mages making monthly rolls to see if their cyberware or spells work properly every month.

Starting to get more than a little off topic here. But you also don't see mages or street samurai getting their cyberware and spells for 1/10th the normal price. Nuyen per karma/bp software is cheap even before hacking.
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post Nov 13 2011, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE (KeyMasterOfGozer @ Nov 12 2011, 04:53 PM) *
Ok, I have made a fix for Multiple Vehicle/Drone printing. You will need to download these two files and put them in your chummer/sheets folder. When Nebular gets back from vacation, he can put up the files in the real updates.

Shadowrun 4 Base.xslt
Vehicle Block.xsl

Many thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 13 2011, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE (deurk @ Nov 12 2011, 12:23 AM) *
Weird indeed, I got it in the French version and not in the English version.
French version mentions it is version 1.02 (April 2011), based on English version 1.00 (April 2009).

deurk, see http://shadowrun.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2729

Especially final post.
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post Nov 13 2011, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE (Jazz @ Nov 12 2011, 08:36 PM) *
deurk, see http://shadowrun.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2729

Especially final post.

The question is, which is correct?
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post Nov 13 2011, 09:29 AM
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No freaking idea (IMG:style_emoticons/default/indifferent.gif)
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post Nov 13 2011, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE (deurk @ Nov 13 2011, 04:29 AM) *

What printing dates do you have in your books?
The one with the most resent printing date should be the most accurate version.
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post Nov 13 2011, 12:50 PM
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Oh, another thing I should of noticed before is that currently Vehicles are treating Pilot and System separately. However, per the description of Pilot it is the vehicles system.
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