Skillwires - maximum rating |
Skillwires - maximum rating |
Apr 7 2011, 11:50 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Acc. to the RAW the limit for actionsofts is 4, linguasofts and knowsofts are limited to rating 5 (if i recall correctly, still don´t have the PDF´s on the business computer). Somebody mentioned something about options in "Unwired" to possibly increase this ratings. What exactly would be the option and what exactly is possible?
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Apr 7 2011, 11:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
Customized Skillsofts grant you a +1 DP bonus to the skill, but the skillsoft is only usable for yourself.
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Apr 7 2011, 12:20 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Cool, i was not going to share my skillsofts with other people anyway. ^^ How much is it more than the common skillsoft (it is already quite expensive). And do i have to have a rating 5 skillwire to run the customized skillsoft with 5 dices or is it still a rating 4 actionsoft just with one bonus dice?
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Apr 7 2011, 12:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
The latter, it still counts as Rating 4. Can't say off the top of my head how expensive the upgrade is, but I recall it being fairly cheap.
Skillsoft sharing is only of importance when you have a TM with biowire in your group, since he needs the original skillsoft to emulate them. |
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Apr 7 2011, 12:28 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Bah, we have a TM as our rigger, but i am not sharing things. That is not SR, SR is about looting.^^
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Apr 7 2011, 12:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
Bah, we have a TM as our rigger, but i am not sharing things. That is not SR, SR is about looting.^^ I supposed you guys could share a skillsoft looted off someone, assuming it's not personalized. But then again, it all depends on the group and the relationships between the characters. |
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Apr 7 2011, 12:53 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Skillsofts are not very common because our GM never thought they could become handy. So i don´t expect an NPC to have some. So no looting....*sob*. The only thing he offers us are free Ares Alpha Combatguns, but they tend to explode all the time...^^
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Apr 7 2011, 01:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
Skillsofts are not very common because our GM never thought they could become handy. So i don´t expect an NPC to have some. So no looting....*sob*. The only thing he offers us are free Ares Alpha Combatguns, but they tend to explode all the time...^^ We've got a saying here that goes like this "look a gift horse in the mouth too". Check them for biometric security, maybe they're set to explode. Or you should cut down on the Ex-Ex ammo, or get a spirit with the Guard power. |
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Apr 7 2011, 01:26 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Already tried. We usually refuse to take this gun in the hand, because the failure-risk is strangly much higher than for every other gun. We call it the "AACG-curse". Maybe we only have the bad luck to get always the monday-production pieces in our hands, i don´t know...
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Apr 7 2011, 01:34 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Side note: SR is *not* about looting. It's about getting paid, then buying things on the black market.
He'd probably give all his 'lootable' skillsofts the Overdrive option. It's pretty nasty. |
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Apr 7 2011, 01:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 12-July 10 Member No.: 18,814 |
The chips might max out at 4, but a higher rating system can run more simultaneous skillsofts.
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Apr 7 2011, 01:50 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Side note: SR is *not* about looting. It's about getting paid, then buying things on the black market. He'd probably give all his 'lootable' skillsofts the Overdrive option. It's pretty nasty. Side note: That is what they want you to believe, but basically humans are hunters and collectors and looting is much more satisfying than "earning" money. Besides that, SR is about playing a criminal, not a wageslave. Looting is absolutely fine during a run and (especially in our group) the little cherry on top of the ice-cream. |
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Apr 7 2011, 02:04 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I won't get into it here, because there are already threads explaining why you're wrong, Machiavelli. ;D
There are a couple other activesoft tweaks you can get, but none are really as good as Personalized. |
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Apr 7 2011, 02:17 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
We will discuss this topic further the next time i am in the US of A.^^
So personalized is the best, but are the other options (do i really have to read unwired???) stackable? |
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Apr 7 2011, 02:18 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
They're Options, so you can't have more of them than Program Rating/2 (i.e., max 2 with activesoft 4). DIMAP is kinda halfway useful.
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Apr 7 2011, 02:21 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
I see, i HAVE to read Unwired....argh...i mostly play mages....unwired is the book of evil....grmmmlllll
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Apr 7 2011, 02:34 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 392 |
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Apr 7 2011, 02:38 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649 |
The power of skillsofts:
Rating 6 Skillwire Rating 4 skillsoft + Personalized + PLUSCODE(3)=5dice, for 1 slot. You can permanently have 6 rating 4(5) skills running at any one time, and you can load them in and out very easily,. Now you can't specialize, etc. But it's perfect for the, "you can fly a helicopter?" "I can now." |
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Apr 7 2011, 02:47 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
"Where did you learn to fly a blimp?"
*Holds up a chip* "MicroDeck." |
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Apr 7 2011, 03:49 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
The latter, it still counts as Rating 4. Can't say off the top of my head how expensive the upgrade is, but I recall it being fairly cheap. Skillsoft sharing is only of importance when you have a TM with biowire in your group, since he needs the original skillsoft to emulate them. Until he emulates it into a CF anyways. |
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Apr 7 2011, 03:50 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
Unwired is the book of evil for many reasons. Hence why I usually call it Unhinged. I love Unwired! "Wish you could tell that shaman to RTFM?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Apr 7 2011, 03:54 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
The power of skillsofts: Rating 6 Skillwire Rating 4 skillsoft + Personalized + PLUSCODE(3)=5dice, for 1 slot. You can permanently have 6 rating 4(5) skills running at any one time, and you can load them in and out very easily,. Now you can't specialize, etc. But it's perfect for the, "you can fly a helicopter?" "I can now." Couple of Problems here... 1. Skilwires max out at Rating 5... 2. You can run 2x rating in Slot costs, so for your RATING 5 Skillwires system and Rated 4, Personalized/Pluscoded (3) Skillsofts (Costs 1 Slot in teh Skillwire System), you can have 10 of them running (5x2 = 10 Slots)... With the Skillwire Expert System, you can even reroll failures (IIRC)... Anyways... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) |
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Apr 7 2011, 03:59 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
I love Unwired! "Wish you could tell that shaman to RTFM?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Goddesses, I'm such a fucking fanboy..... Incidentally, is there any reason that DIMAP and Skillwire Exper System both do the same thing? Are they meant to be mutually exclusive? |
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Apr 7 2011, 04:08 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 18,036 |
the problem with skillwires is their cost. and you will need to buy them legally, if you want one personalized to your own neural infrastructre. they cost almost the same in BP (2.5) at chargen as buying the actual skill (4), which you can specialize and use edge on.
If you go with pirated ones, they won't be personalized to you, unless you're a clone Iguess. |
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Apr 7 2011, 04:16 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Goddesses, I'm such a fucking fanboy..... Incidentally, is there any reason that DIMAP and Skillwire Exper System both do the same thing? Are they meant to be mutually exclusive? One is a program option that costs no essence. The other is 'Ware, which costs essence. For the Mage/Technomancer, DIMAP is a better option than the Skillwire Expert System. |
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