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Limping Jacob
post Mar 27 2004, 08:03 AM
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Is this game full yet? I'm working up a dwarf trid pirate/surveillance-type character, if that would be acceptable...

Or if you'd prefer, a dwarf adept.
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post Mar 27 2004, 12:12 PM
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Read the thread again Limping Jacob

EDIT : Bad BGMFH! Be nicer,, at least until the game starts..

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Third, Im waiting on one or two more chars, preferably a rigger and one or more either combat or magic types, though anything could fit.
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Limping Jacob
post Mar 27 2004, 08:24 PM
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The reason I asked about the trid pirate was because you said you "hate deckers," so I wouldn't be that surprised if you hated similar types of characters.

Is it safe to assume that this will be a combat-heavy game?
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post Mar 28 2004, 12:14 AM
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No, but then again, Im not afraid of combat...

The premise is what it is, and Im not elaborating much more until IC start.
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post Mar 28 2004, 01:23 AM
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I updated Raven and sent her in.
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post Mar 28 2004, 01:43 AM
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*grunt* I hate my brain... I have a combat mage I could make... well, no, he'd need an item of deltaware, and initiation... ok... so I could make another combat type... yeah... character making is my bread and butter...
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post Mar 28 2004, 11:21 AM
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Erm BGMFH, don't know if ronin mentioned it to you, but me and him are working on meshing our backgrounds, if thats ok with you.
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post Mar 28 2004, 04:29 PM
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Sounds Good Shockwave.

DH, send me a char if you'd like.

No riggers yet? Geeze, Dumpshock has changed a lot.
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post Mar 29 2004, 02:21 AM
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Yeah. Issy and Evan have a bit of a romantic past. I'm compiling all of the PMs between me and Shock about it, and I'll put it in a text file and send it to you.

Also, I'm getting my character upgraded with your points, and I'll send him to you sometime tomorrow when I get a chance.
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post Mar 29 2004, 08:50 AM
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Sorry i din't get back to you Ronin, but when you decided on going down the pub, I had been up for 24 hours and thought it would be a good idea to gets some sleep before work.

BGMFH: E-mail on it's way to you, three files.

Everyone else: Erm i've got a bit of cashleft over, so anybody got ideas as to what people are needing group wise? try and keep it to Electronics and related stuff.
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post Mar 29 2004, 12:20 PM
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Im giving 24hrs for new char submissions.

Current Players, no spilling the beans.

Shockwave: extra contacts, ammo, safehouses, fake SINs, vehicles, and weapons never hurt in any game.
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post Mar 29 2004, 12:35 PM
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Shockwave: extra contacts,
:| Thought i had enough of those...
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ammo, safehouses, fake SINs,
*worried look* MORE ammo? though i had thought of safehouse and what not, but decent sin's cost too much to be disposable, Can i upgrade my current one instead?
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vehicles, and weapons never hurt in any game.

ah yes more Ceska's .
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post Mar 29 2004, 02:58 PM
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Questions were asked about availability... for the new sheets I;ve asked for, here goes...

For most things, I would suggest just subtracting the level of contact you are using and half of any applicable skills value. You can use 1 contact, Ettiquette or Negotiation, and one or more applicable knowledge skills. If you want to buy damaged weapons, you can also subtract half your B/R skill and risk it failing at some point.

Just make sure to note how you are getting your rare items. Just don't go overboard people.
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post Mar 29 2004, 07:48 PM
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Sorry i din't get back to you Ronin, but when you decided on going down the pub, I had been up for 24 hours and thought it would be a good idea to gets some sleep before work.

BGMFH:  E-mail on it's way to you, three files.

Everyone else: Erm i've got a bit of cashleft over, so anybody got ideas as to what people are needing group wise?  try and keep it to Electronics and related stuff.

Well, since Issy is the security wiz, I'm sure you've invested in high rating sequencers and maglock passkeys, right?

How about stuff to fool the biometric security devices?

What about explosives/demo...is Issy any good with that?

Do you have a portable ECM Jammer, possibly with a portable commo suite?

You know, it might be a good idea to invest in an RCD just so you can do a little EW if we need it...ya never know when a little MIJI might come in handy. Of course, if we get a bona-fide rigger, you won't have to worry about that.

What about surveillance stuff...shotgun/laser mics, AOD tracking signals, BattleTac stuff, trideo recorders, etc.

Then there's always the security counter-measures like white noise generators, bug scanners, etc.

Does your character have or have access to an Electronics Shop? The 45K for one would be a pretty good investment.

That's all that I can think of for now...although you probably have all of those bases covered already.
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post Mar 29 2004, 07:59 PM
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Well, since Issy is the security wiz, I'm sure you've invested in  high rating sequencers and maglock passkeys, right?
Was hoping to rely on her skill of 8 for that
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How about stuff to fool the biometric security devices?

Have to look into that, Sota 2063 right
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What about explosives/demo...is Issy any good with that?
only if you consider blowing up herself and the rest of the team to be good :P
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Do you have a portable ECM Jammer, possibly with a portable commo suite?

You know, it might be a good idea to invest in an RCD just so you can do a little EW if we need it...ya never know when a little MIJI might come in handy.  Of course, if we get a bona-fide rigger, you won't have to worry about that.
kinda hoping on a rigger for that, mainly cos i don't know how to do it game mechanic wise
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What about surveillance stuff...shotgun/laser mics, AOD tracking signals, BattleTac stuff, trideo recorders, etc.

Then there's always the security counter-measures like white noise generators, bug scanners, etc.
Covered (i think , maybe not ALL of it)
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Does your character have or have access to an Electronics Shop?  The 45K for one would be a pretty good investment.
and still be cheaper then my comms gear, but no she hasn't
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That's all that I can think of for now...although you probably have all of those bases covered already.

I wish, hence why i was asking :D
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post Mar 29 2004, 08:41 PM
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Was hoping to rely on her skill of 8 for that.

That should certainly work, but Sequencers and Passkeys save time. Base 10 seconds/successes is way faster than base 30 seconds/successes. I still think relying on your Electronics skill is a better way to go most of the time, but the hardware is handy to have if we are in a big hurry. Also, with Maglock Passkeys you don't have to crack the case. Another time saver.

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Have to look into that, Sota 2063 right?

Yeah, circa page 102. I have it at home if you need me to get the rules together for you.

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kinda hoping on a rigger for that, mainly cos i don't know how to do it game mechanic wise

That's cool. We can wait for a rigger if you want. However, if we don't get one, it would be good to have Issy cover that angle. If you want, I can send you a text file that I put together...it's a quick breakdown of how to do EW with an RCD. I put it together for a friend of mine who wanted to start playing a rigger. It summarizes a lot of the rules and puts them all in one spot. Just let me know and I can send it to you.


And you know, if you have a lot of capital left over, we can look into acquiring whatever we may need once we get our first mission. Evan is also going to have roughly 90K in starting capital, so we should be able to cover any gear needs.
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post Mar 29 2004, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (TheOneRonin)
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Was hoping to rely on her skill of 8 for that.

That should certainly work, but Sequencers and Passkeys save time. Base 10 seconds/successes is way faster than base 30 seconds/successes. I still think relying on your Electronics skill is a better way to go most of the time, but the hardware is handy to have if we are in a big hurry. Also, with Maglock Passkeys you don't have to crack the case. Another time saver.
thats the trade off, time versus a higher likly hood of getting through, pass keys are opposed skill isn't, besides a rating 3 pass key costs 90k post gen

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Have to look into that, Sota 2063 right?

Yeah, circa page 102. I have it at home if you need me to get the rules together for you.
Na no need, got it myself,
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kinda hoping on a rigger for that, mainly cos i don't know how to do it game mechanic wise

That's cool. We can wait for a rigger if you want. However, if we don't get one, it would be good to have Issy cover that angle. If you want, I can send you a text file that I put together...it's a quick breakdown of how to do EW with an RCD. I put it together for a friend of mine who wanted to start playing a rigger. It summarizes a lot of the rules and puts them all in one spot. Just let me know and I can send it to you.
i'll have that regradless, but Issy doesn't have a data jack so, can she still do it?

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Evan is also going to have roughly 90K in starting capital, so we should be able to cover any gear needs.

Well that how much i've got at the minute, so maybe alot was a little miss leading..
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post Mar 29 2004, 09:09 PM
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You guys have money left over? I spent all mine, sorry.
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post Mar 29 2004, 09:22 PM
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Shock:

Yeah, 90K for a rating 3 passkey is a bit steep. I suppose we can just roll with your skill for now.

And as for the RCD stuff, you don't need a datajack. In fact, you can Captain's Chair drones without a DJ or VCR. Basically, you'd be using the RCD a an electronic warfare device...just make sure it has a display screen.

And as for the 90K, that is a LOT of money left over...considering that Evan can pay all of his expenses for the next 30 months with it.


Shadow:
Don't worry, dude. I'm sure your cash was well spent. Although you may want to make sure you have at least a few grand in spending money...ya never know when it comes in handy.
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post Mar 29 2004, 09:47 PM
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Yeah I have a couple of grand in the bank. I bought a permanent lifestyle which is steep, but I felt it was worth it. Along with a safe house, extra armor, another vehicle, upgraded my contacts, etc. I revamped my equipment, that ran me about 400k as well. The funny thing is when I originally put her together I only had 200k in resources. I spent twice that just on her new equipment :)
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post Mar 29 2004, 09:51 PM
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most of mine went on the obligatry stealth cloak and 50k on the comms gear.
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post Mar 29 2004, 10:04 PM
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"Stealth Cloak"??? Do tell....
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post Mar 29 2004, 10:07 PM
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it's just Ruthenium Polymer cloak over thermal damping armour.
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post Mar 29 2004, 10:09 PM
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I think Shock is talking about a Ruthium polymer cloak (may have spelled it wrong) depending on how many sensors it has in it, it can give up to a +12 hide bonus.

There are some drawbacks though. Like a 'cloak of invisibility' it does not hide sound or smell. Nor can the user move very fast while using it.

I have three players in a game right now who all use it and I have ran into some issues with it. As long as you use a little common sense it should work ok.
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post Mar 29 2004, 10:12 PM
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yeah saw that doging once hit thing you had happen. My cloak isn't as good yet, might spend some of the last moneys on more scanners
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