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post Apr 26 2011, 09:17 PM
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-Direct Combat Spells are no longer fully resisted when resist successes equal or exceed casting successes. Instead, all resistance successes reduce all damage from a Direct Combat spells by 2. For example, a Force 6 Stunbolt with 3 successes would normally deal 9 stun damage. If the target gets 3 successes, it deals 0, if the target gets 2 successes, it deals 7. This change would make that same spell resisted with 3 successes, it still deals 3 stun damage, and at 2 successes deal 5 stun damage. The goal of this is to make direct spells less binary, while making counterspelling more effective against them than indirect spells.

-Counterspelling against Indirect Combat Spells now applies to the damage resistance test, rather than to the dodge test. This makes Indirect Combat spells more akin to gunshots, reducing the effectiveness of counterspelling against them. The goal of this is to make direct combat spells a bit better, currently they're too easy to dodge given that most characters in combat are going to have a much higher reaction than Will or Body, because of how much easier it is to boost reaction. The idea is to make a indirect combat spell less susceptible to counterspelling, since they have to deal with armor as well.


-A new manatech armor enhancement is introduced, giving effective counterspelling on the person wearing it equal to the rating. Each rating costs 2 armor upgrade slots. Cost is 2000xrating and the Availability is 4R per rating. This counts as counterspelling rather than magic resist so that if you have an actual instance of counterspelling, it uses the assisting rules (ie roll the counterspelling dice, add successes to the counterspelling pool), rather than stacking directly. This makes the enhancement far weaker if you actually have counterspelling available, though still helpful, but allows mundanes to resist without a mage backup. Particularly useful for NPC security forces.
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- Seerow   Suggested Combat Spell Houserule   Apr 26 2011, 09:17 PM
- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Seerow @ Apr 26 2011, 05:17 PM) -A...   Apr 26 2011, 09:45 PM
|- - Seerow   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Apr 26 2011, 10:45 PM) My...   Apr 26 2011, 09:56 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Seerow @ Apr 26 2011, 02:56 PM) So...   Apr 26 2011, 10:18 PM
|||- - Seerow   QUOTE "The fact that only a mage can help def...   Apr 26 2011, 10:54 PM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Seerow @ Apr 26 2011, 04:54 PM) Th...   Apr 27 2011, 01:14 AM
||- - phlapjack77   QUOTE (Seerow @ Apr 27 2011, 06:56 AM) Be...   Apr 26 2011, 11:46 PM
||- - Seerow   QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Apr 27 2011, 12:46 A...   Apr 27 2011, 12:04 AM
||- - Faraday   QUOTE (Seerow @ Apr 26 2011, 05:04 PM) On...   Apr 27 2011, 01:35 AM
||- - Seerow   QUOTE (Faraday @ Apr 27 2011, 02:35 AM) I...   Apr 27 2011, 02:03 AM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Apr 26 2011, 11:45 PM) As...   Apr 27 2011, 02:19 PM
- - Yerameyahu   "The fact that only a mage can help defend ag...   Apr 26 2011, 10:09 PM
- - KarmaInferno   Well, a lot of "burned out mage" archety...   Apr 27 2011, 02:32 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I feel like that's mostly for NPCs, or deliber...   Apr 27 2011, 02:40 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 26 2011, 08:40 PM...   Apr 27 2011, 02:44 AM
||- - Seerow   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 27 2011, 03...   Apr 27 2011, 02:53 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Seerow @ Apr 26 2011, 08:53 PM) Fl...   Apr 27 2011, 02:59 AM
||- - Seerow   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 27 2011, 03...   Apr 27 2011, 03:12 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Seerow @ Apr 26 2011, 08:12 PM) Sh...   Apr 27 2011, 01:41 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 26 2011, 09:40 PM...   Apr 27 2011, 05:00 AM
- - Yerameyahu   If they were normal, they wouldn't be runners....   Apr 27 2011, 03:09 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   Really? Again? Learn to use the fucking search fu...   Apr 27 2011, 04:11 AM
|- - Seerow   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 27 2011, 05:11...   Apr 27 2011, 04:18 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 26 2011, 09:11...   Apr 27 2011, 01:49 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Yet another incompetent incapable of reading, thin...   Apr 27 2011, 04:27 AM
|- - Seerow   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 27 2011, 05:27...   Apr 27 2011, 04:41 AM
- - phlapjack77   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 27 2011, 12:11...   Apr 27 2011, 04:46 AM
- - phlapjack77   Back on topic (sorta?) It seems that maybe alot o...   Apr 27 2011, 04:54 AM
|- - Seerow   QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Apr 27 2011, 05:54 A...   Apr 27 2011, 05:05 AM
- - phlapjack77   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Apr 27 2011, 01:00 ...   Apr 27 2011, 05:19 AM
- - TheOOB   "Though this quality is inexpensive, gamemast...   Apr 27 2011, 06:20 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Apr 27 2011, 09:20 AM) In...   Apr 27 2011, 10:51 AM
||- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Mäx @ Apr 27 2011, 06:51 AM) But t...   Apr 28 2011, 05:24 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Apr 26 2011, 11:20 PM) ...   Apr 27 2011, 02:02 PM
|- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 27 2011, 09...   Apr 28 2011, 11:15 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Apr 28 2011, 05:15 PM) If...   Apr 29 2011, 03:24 AM
- - sabs   The way to fix magic is to remove the multi-cast r...   Apr 27 2011, 01:48 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Looks like a straw man to me. Who said 'laugha...   Apr 27 2011, 02:05 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 27 2011, 07:05 AM...   Apr 27 2011, 02:48 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 27 2011, 10...   Apr 28 2011, 01:38 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 28 2011, 06:38 AM) So...   Apr 28 2011, 02:36 PM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 28 2011, 07...   Apr 28 2011, 05:33 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 28 2011, 10...   Apr 29 2011, 02:58 AM
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|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 29 2011, 11...   Apr 29 2011, 05:44 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 28 2011, 10:44 PM) Th...   Apr 29 2011, 01:29 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 29 2011, 04...   Apr 29 2011, 04:20 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Mäx @ Apr 29 2011, 09:20 AM) I don...   Apr 29 2011, 05:10 PM
|- - longbowrocks   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 29 2011, 06...   Apr 30 2011, 02:42 AM
- - sabs   The one big problem with a Magic 2 character, is t...   Apr 28 2011, 12:33 PM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (sabs @ Apr 28 2011, 05:33 AM) The ...   Apr 28 2011, 12:39 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (sabs @ Apr 28 2011, 05:33 AM) The ...   Apr 28 2011, 12:59 PM
- - sabs   Sure, but then he's no better than the unaugme...   Apr 28 2011, 12:56 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Or a large, or even moderate amount. It's very...   Apr 28 2011, 05:46 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 28 2011, 10:46 AM...   Apr 28 2011, 09:21 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You can't enforce fluff, and that doesn't ...   Apr 28 2011, 09:59 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 28 2011, 02:59 PM...   Apr 28 2011, 10:15 PM
- - Adarael   A typically stacked starting mage with 10-12 dice ...   Apr 28 2011, 10:06 PM
- - longbowrocks   I consider my characters to be part of a professio...   Apr 28 2011, 10:54 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (longbowrocks @ Apr 28 2011, 03:54 ...   Apr 28 2011, 11:01 PM
- - Falconer   I can see giving an extra body or willpower test t...   Apr 29 2011, 02:13 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Falconer @ Apr 29 2011, 05:13 AM) ...   Apr 29 2011, 08:59 AM
|- - fazzamar   QUOTE (Mäx @ Apr 29 2011, 03:59 AM) And i...   Apr 29 2011, 02:18 PM
|- - Falconer   As far as doing 13 damage w/ a pistol in a single ...   Apr 30 2011, 05:52 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Depends on the concept. As you know, your tables ...   Apr 29 2011, 03:32 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 28 2011, 09:32 PM...   Apr 29 2011, 04:05 AM
- - Yerameyahu   He didn't say it shouldn't be allowed. He ...   Apr 29 2011, 04:33 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 29 2011, 12:33 PM...   Apr 29 2011, 06:03 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 28 2011, 11:03 PM) Th...   Apr 29 2011, 01:33 PM
- - TheOOB   Methinks I hit a nerve. My intent was to say that...   Apr 29 2011, 07:39 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE Methinks I hit a nerve. My intent was to sa...   Apr 29 2011, 02:00 PM
|- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 29 2011, 10...   Apr 30 2011, 03:11 AM
||- - phlapjack77   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Apr 30 2011, 12:11 PM) I ...   Apr 30 2011, 07:35 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Apr 29 2011, 09:11 PM) Ge...   May 1 2011, 03:17 PM
|- - phlapjack77   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 29 2011, 11...   Apr 30 2011, 07:39 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Apr 30 2011, 01:39 A...   May 1 2011, 03:19 PM
|- - phlapjack77   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 1 2011, 11...   May 1 2011, 04:20 PM
- - longbowrocks   A magic 2 magician is relying on hits from the dic...   Apr 29 2011, 08:31 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Except accomplishment and skill *are* the exact sa...   Apr 29 2011, 02:04 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 29 2011, 07:04 AM...   Apr 29 2011, 02:19 PM
- - sabs   I like to do 2 basic rules for fixing magic combat...   Apr 29 2011, 02:22 PM
- - sabs   Tymaeus, I have the opposite problem. I feel that...   Apr 29 2011, 02:25 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Exactly. The fluff table is wrong, as I said. The ...   Apr 29 2011, 02:30 PM
- - sabs   Actually yes, people overcast in dire situations, ...   Apr 29 2011, 03:23 PM
- - sabs   How exactly are you doing 13 DV with a pistol easi...   Apr 30 2011, 01:03 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (sabs @ Apr 30 2011, 04:03 PM) How ...   Apr 30 2011, 04:03 PM
|- - longbowrocks   QUOTE (sabs @ Apr 30 2011, 06:03 AM) How ...   Apr 30 2011, 04:49 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Maybe it's a Super Warhawk with APDS and exper...   Apr 30 2011, 03:46 PM
- - sabs   yeah, but that Spirit has 12 dodge dice.   Apr 30 2011, 03:59 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, 'expert'. And naturally it's all...   Apr 30 2011, 04:01 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Well, that's a stupid question in general. Why...   Apr 30 2011, 04:13 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 30 2011, 07:13 PM...   Apr 30 2011, 07:44 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 30 2011, 10:13 AM...   May 1 2011, 03:20 PM
- - longbowrocks   Why does everyone have so much difficulty with mag...   Apr 30 2011, 06:22 PM
- - TheOOB   I have been known to make it so when overcasting i...   Apr 30 2011, 07:51 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Falconer, narrow bursts don't beat ITNW. That...   May 1 2011, 02:41 AM
- - Falconer   You obviously missed the APDS and AP-5 on the atta...   May 1 2011, 07:01 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 1 2011, 09:01 AM) T...   May 1 2011, 07:28 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ May 1 2011, 10:28 AM...   May 1 2011, 09:58 AM
- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 1 2011, 02:01 AM) Y...   May 1 2011, 07:58 AM
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