The Way of the Adept released, PDF only; 15 pages, $4.95 Options

[Critias]

Gold Level equates to how many Sales Critias?
Keep up the great work.

Heck if I know (I could probably email 'em and find out, I guess?), but either way it's pretty cool and I thought I'd thank everyone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Stahlseele]

At least you are a nice guy like that.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Heck if I know (I could probably email 'em and find out, I guess?), but either way it's pretty cool and I thought I'd thank everyone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Thanks for the response... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Makki]

Heck if I know (I could probably email 'em and find out, I guess?), but either way it's pretty cool and I thought I'd thank everyone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

despite all my critics in here, I love it and it's the first pdf-only I ever bought (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Fyndhal]

despite all my critics in here, I love it and it's the first pdf-only I ever bought (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Same here.

[Critias]

Just a quick bump, but -- largely thanks to contributions from this very thread -- I was bored enough that I felt like putting together a sort of FAQ/Errata for this puppy. Since y'all and your questions were part of why I did it, I thought I'd post the heads up here. A link's in my signature, and hopefully it'll be a handy way to share some of my thoughts and reasons for stuff (for those poor souls that haven't read this whole thread).

[Udoshi]

That is fantastic, critias, and thank you for doing so.

One comment though. Shouldn't walking the ways be 5 points instead of 10? My reasoning is that, as far as i've heard from you, it only expands your list of discounted powers - you don't get to double up on discounted powers. I would think it would not be worth the full 10 points in this case.

As opposed to picking up two way qualities for 10 points each: Lets go with Artisan and Artist, and assume magic 6. This would give an adept 6 discounted powers for 10 points, instead of 3 of of a bigger list. See what I'm saying?

Also, its not worded clearly, and there's some stuff that needs to be cleared up
1) Does the 'new list' REPLACE your old list?
2) If not, does it add to it?
3) when you 'assemble their own discounted power list', how big may that list be?
5) I'm not clear. When you select a power with Walking the Ways, does it discount it(leading to 6 discounted powers at magic 6), or just put it on your list to choose from.
4) it totally shouldn't be restricted to powers already on the way-lists, like stuff from digitial grimoire(elemental armor) or war(Rush is about the only adept power from that book i like)
5) Why can't you walk more than one way at once? (totem and magician for example, or athlete and unseen for a ninja.) Is there supposed to be any specific prohibition to this, because it isn't in the book.

My thoughts on the matter. I do appreciate your willingness to take feedback, and i love walking the ways, but it could be worded a little clearer. I may be a little biased, because I was thinking of your description of Walking the Ways from earlier in the thread, which sounded like it worked differently.

Well, in theory, there was another Quality called "Walking the Ways" that was available in addition to your Way and hypothetically cost 10 BP, and let you pick another (Magic/2) discounted powers of your own choosing. That was there to let some of the "outside the box" concepts through; characters who definitely still fit one Way's mentality, but had powers from a different (like an Athlete that fought MMA bouts, an Invisible Way guy who was an under-the-radar flying panzerjock, or Speaker who felt all combat was based on body language, or what-have-you).

[Critias]

Yeah, I'm still tweaking it a little bit right now, Udoshi (I've just got my google docs open in another window, updating it 'cause I've got a little time to kill). I probably should've held off on the link, but this whole shebang has just been a spur of the moment thing, so right now probably every person that clicks the link is getting a little bit different version of the FAQ. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Stahlseele]

Yeah, I'm still tweaking it a little bit right now, Udoshi (I've just got my google docs open in another window, updating it 'cause I've got a little time to kill). I probably should've held off on the link, but this whole shebang has just been a spur of the moment thing, so right now probably every person that clicks the link is getting a little bit different version of the FAQ. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Hell, you are surpassing CGL by doing actual errata and releasing it . .

[Udoshi]

Work in progress!

[Stahlseele]

Is still Progress.

[Mäx]

5) I'm not clear. When you select a power with Walking the Ways, does it discount it(leading to 6 discounted powers at magic 6), or just put it on your list to choose from.

FRom the way he worded it, i would say that it definedly discounts it, it wouldn't make much sense otherwise seeing as you can take the Walking the Ways quality as standalone without any other way quality.

[Critias]

Correct, Max. It's a full second set of favored/discounted powers (six, if you've got a full six Magic).

Just as a heads up, I think I'm about settled with the FAQ-ata in current form. If folks can think of anything more that could be helpful in there, or have any other questions anything, please feel free to PM me or whatever.

[Sengir]

While I don't own the book (lack of characters to use it on), it's good to see the tradition of authors releasing errata for "their" products is alive and well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[boskop-albatros]

trying to get into shadowrun for real now but I love aspected adepts like sorcery and conjuring adepts, and I especially love shamanic physical magicians shamanic physical adepts and aspected shamanic adepts which is the big reason I'm posting because as a player character boskop-albatros would be a human mercenary/pirate/smuggler/shadowrunner who is also an aspected albatros shamanic adept-he is from the Namibian part of Azania nice it got some how attached in shadows of the 6th world and he operates in the southern hemisphere mostly with a very varied crew he'd even have and Obsidianman on his team so I just need stats for an albatros totem and ask how you'se guys think an aspected albatros adept mercenary/pirate/smuggler/shadowrunner would be built??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif)

[Mardrax]

trying to get into shadowrun for real now but I love aspected adepts like sorcery and conjuring adepts, and I especially love shamanic physical magicians shamanic physical adepts and aspected shamanic adepts which is the big reason I'm posting because as a player character boskop-albatros would be a human mercenary/pirate/smuggler/shadowrunner who is also an aspected albatros shamanic adept-he is from the Namibian part of Azania nice it got some how attached in shadows of the 6th world and he operates in the southern hemisphere mostly with a very varied crew he'd even have and Obsidianman on his team so I just need stats for an albatros totem and ask how you'se guys think an aspected albatros adept mercenary/pirate/smuggler/shadowrunner would be built??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif)

You might actually want to give that question its own thread, since it has no bearing whatsoever to Way of the Adept.

[Jhaiisiin]

trying to get into shadowrun for real now but I love aspected adepts like sorcery and conjuring adepts, and I especially love shamanic physical magicians shamanic physical adepts and aspected shamanic adepts which is the big reason I'm posting because as a player character boskop-albatros would be a human mercenary/pirate/smuggler/shadowrunner who is also an aspected albatros shamanic adept-he is from the Namibian part of Azania nice it got some how attached in shadows of the 6th world and he operates in the southern hemisphere mostly with a very varied crew he'd even have and Obsidianman on his team so I just need stats for an albatros totem and ask how you'se guys think an aspected albatros adept mercenary/pirate/smuggler/shadowrunner would be built??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif)

DUDE! Punctuation! And agreed, make a thread just for this.

[CanRay]

DUDE! Punctuation! And agreed, make a thread just for this.

I cry for the English language some days...

[Jhaiisiin]

I try not to mention issues with English, grammar or punctuation on this forum only because I know we have several posters who have English as a second (or third, or fourth) language, and so certain nuances (such as lose vs loose, die vs dice vs dices, etc) won't be something they're aware of or used to.

[CanRay]

There's being a little nuances due to translation and second/third/forth language issues, and then there's a wall of text. I've had to write in a few languages myself (Sometimes I even understood what I was writing!), and rarely have I seen where "Wall of Text" was accepted.

Also, I've found that some people who have English as another language sometimes write better than native speakers, as they tend to think more about what is being written, as opposed to folks who just spew out things at speed of thought. 'Course, part of that is also dealing with 1337 and ChatRoom Speak, so...

[Irion]

Well, there are typos or just not knowing the word and there is don't giving a fuck. I sometimes missspell or produce some silly typos because I am used to wirte quite fast.
(As CanRay said the speed of thought, which is even not very hard if you are used to typing. Does not really matter if it is in second language, if you use this language from time to time.)
So yeah, it may happen that, a dice becomes a dcie or a dic (thats not so common now(well this has been a know for example. Just a bit sick and cold fingers and the strike when they should not...) because I got myself a new keyboard). But not using punctuation at all is just unfriendly towards those people who are supposed to read the text. Simply because it makes it quite hard to read.
Making some mistake and putting a comma where there should not be one or the other way round is not really a problem. And I guess most people won't even notice.

Put in this case I think this dudes keyboard is just broken. Because he is using "," and "'" which strikes me as strange. Normaly if you are not even using "." you use nothing and all your letters are small two... (Or he just loves very long sentances. I once did too. )

[Ascalaphus]

Look at it like this: you're trying to write something that will interest other people, maybe convince them of your viewpoint, or explain some tricky rule. The quality and clarity of your writing is important.

So just take a minute to look through your post, and see if it can't be improved. For example by correcting spelling (I thought everyone got those red undersquiggles on misspelled words?), and breaking up overly long sentences. Clear use of paragraphs also helps.

Communicating with other people over the internet is hard. They tend to be stubborn, stupid and foreign. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Without good writing you won't get anywhere.

[CanRay]

Writing is hard. Let's bake cookies for the boys. Tee hee!

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Writing is hard. Let's bake cookies for the boys. Tee hee!

I like White Chocolate Macadamia Nut... *Waits in Anticipation*

[CanRay]

I like White Chocolate Macadamia Nut... *Waits in Anticipation*

*Sprays the oven down with fire-retardant foam*

...

Baking is hard. I'm going back to writing.