 Night Ones, Are they broken or something? |
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 May 4 2011, 06:49 PM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 13-March 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 24,230  |
So I just thought of a really innovative and original concept!
A Night one adept with metagenetic improvement (AGI), enhanced attribute (AGI), genetic optimization (AGI), and a Way that has Improved Physical Attribute. In addition, he initiated once, raised his magic to the new cap, and maxed AGI to 15. He has left behind his fiendish brethren who live below, and has become a tragic hero shunned by both worlds. [ Spoiler ]
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May 4 2011, 06:51 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
QUOTE (longbowrocks @ May 4 2011, 03:49 PM)  So I just thought of a really innovative and original concept! A Night one adept with metagenetic improvement (AGI), enhanced attribute (AGI), genetic optimization (AGI), and a Way that has Improved Physical Attribute. In addition, he initiated once, raised his magic to the new cap, and maxed AGI to 15. He has left behind his fiendish brethren who live below, and has become a tragic hero shunned by both worlds. [ Spoiler ] Then he must have Attunement (black panther) and 2 scimitars. It is practically mandatory (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif) |
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May 4 2011, 06:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 3-May 11 Member No.: 29,372 |
Don't Forget some martial arts techniques, particularly two weapon style (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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May 4 2011, 06:58 PM
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Douche Group: Banned Posts: 1,584 Joined: 2-March 11 Member No.: 23,135 |
Speaking of the above, has anyone ever hit a PC with a Thor shot yet?
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May 4 2011, 07:08 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Epicedion @ May 4 2011, 01:58 PM) Speaking of the above, has anyone ever hit a PC with a Thor shot yet? If someone makes the character mentioned above, my answer is "Not yet." |
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May 4 2011, 07:09 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
You'd probably miss him with that agility . .
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May 4 2011, 07:11 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 4 2011, 02:09 PM) You'd probably miss him with that agility . . Direct hit, sure... But when it comes to the secondary effects... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif) ' "How well can you survive under a building?" Then again, one of my characters did survive under a building... |
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May 4 2011, 07:21 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Several of mine did . .
One of them brought the building down on himself on purpose, because he knew that HE was going to be mostly fine . . |
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May 4 2011, 07:24 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 4 2011, 04:09 PM) You'd probably miss him with that agility . . If he has Agility 15 and Reaction 1, then I don't see how I will miss him. Then again, you don't need a bull's eye to kill someone with a Thor shot. |
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May 4 2011, 07:28 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 13-March 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 24,230 |
QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ May 4 2011, 12:24 PM) If he has Agility 15 and Reaction 1, then I don't see how I will miss him. Then again, you don't need a bull's eye to kill someone with a Thor shot. You don't a bullseye, but you do need to be within several hundred bulls. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) |
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May 4 2011, 07:31 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 13-March 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 24,230 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ May 4 2011, 12:08 PM) If someone makes the character mentioned above, my answer is "Not yet." I'm stuck in limbo between the incredible urge to troll my GM with this character (surprisingly, he's the only one in our group who would get the reference) and the desire to play a character that would still be fun once I stopped laughing. |
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May 4 2011, 07:33 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-August 09 From: Vancouver, Canada Member No.: 17,538 |
Ugh. And I thought the math derail was bad.
I suppose this is technically still on target since you are talking about a Night One. You know I never thought of them as Drow replacements. More like Night Crawler from X-men, what with the fur and all. Drow are supposed to be evil and Drizzt is the exception rather than the rule. The Night Ones are only thought to be evil or weird because of that stupid nocturnal quality. Hey do diurnal characters (everyone else) take a mental attribute hit during the night? Seems only fair. |
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May 4 2011, 07:34 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Well, combine the maxed out agility with everything else that helps with shooting or any other skill that's based on agility . .
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May 4 2011, 07:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 772 Joined: 12-December 07 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 14,589 |
QUOTE (Mantis @ May 4 2011, 02:33 PM) I suppose this is technically still on target since you are talking about a Night One. You know I never thought of them as Drow replacements. More like Night Crawler from X-men, what with the fur and all. Drow are supposed to be evil and Drizzt is the exception rather than the rule. The Night Ones are only thought to be evil or weird because of that stupid nocturnal quality. Hey do diurnal characters (everyone else) take a mental attribute hit during the night? Seems only fair. Nightcrawler or Drizzit, just constantly remind your GM that the character is drawn by Rob Liefield. |
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May 4 2011, 07:43 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE LIIIEEEFIIIEEELD!!!
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May 4 2011, 07:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 3-May 11 Member No.: 29,372 |
Really, Nocturnal shouldn't decrease attributes for mental stats during the day. It should just modify when fatigue sets in.
Besides, what shadowrunners have normal circadian rhythms? |
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May 4 2011, 08:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 963 Joined: 15-February 11 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 21,972 |
QUOTE (longbowrocks @ May 4 2011, 12:31 PM) I'm stuck in limbo between the incredible urge to troll my GM with this character (surprisingly, he's the only one in our group who would get the reference) and the desire to play a character that would still be fun once I stopped laughing. I WILL END YOU! |
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May 4 2011, 08:20 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 13-March 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 24,230 |
QUOTE (ggodo @ May 4 2011, 01:16 PM) I WILL END YOU! It's things like this that make me wish I could share my laughter with everyone else on dumpshock. Unfortunately, forum posts don't support .wav files. |
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May 4 2011, 08:36 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
Most certainly not my combat medic... Sleep regulator FTW! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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May 4 2011, 08:36 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (ggodo @ May 4 2011, 10:16 PM) I WILL END YOU! CHANG! http://machall.com/view.php?date=2006-01-17 |
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May 4 2011, 08:53 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
QUOTE (Dez384 @ May 4 2011, 02:57 PM) Really, Nocturnal shouldn't decrease attributes for mental stats during the day. It should just modify when fatigue sets in. Besides, what shadowrunners have normal circadian rhythms? Yea that always seemed like a weird one. For critters I can understand, but people adapt after a period of time. |
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May 4 2011, 11:54 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ May 4 2011, 02:45 PM) EDIT: Also, "OK, you come from South America, where the frag did you get a posh British Accent when speaking English?" "'Trid movies, my dear boy." "Hey man, I thought you were from Long Beach." -k |
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May 4 2011, 11:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 3-May 11 Member No.: 29,372 |
QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ May 4 2011, 03:24 PM) If he has Agility 15 and Reaction 1, then I don't see how I will miss him. Then again, you don't need a bull's eye to kill someone with a Thor shot. Gymnastics to dodge (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rollin.gif) |
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May 5 2011, 12:32 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
QUOTE (Dez384 @ May 5 2011, 12:57 AM) Gymnastics to dodge (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rollin.gif) Also linked to Reaction when you use it for dodging. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) Don't worry, tough, high-AGI streetsams with insane Gymnastics pools are still better at dancing than any person IRL, and that's what matters at the end of the day. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif) |
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May 5 2011, 02:18 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
I think Xapiri Thepe are about tied with night ones for lameness.
I think what gets people most upset isn't the supposed "rarity tax", but the fact that there is actually no rhyme or reason to metavariant costs at all. Some cost the same as the base metatype, while others are more expensive. Some come out better than their base metatype when you factor in their advantages and disadvantages, while others get penalized. It's not just elves. Orks may overall be a good choice, but compare the oni and ogre costs, and realize that the inexplicably more expensive one has an extra disadvantage, while the one that costs the same as the base metatype has an extra advantage. |
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