 Bionic Hand, Gentlemen, we can rebuild him... |
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  May 19 2011, 04:46 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 9-December 06 From: the Maaatlock-Expressway! Member No.: 10,326  |
Elective amputation. New hand. Boom.
"The whole cyberpunk conceit of people just chopping off their limbs to get artificial replacements is ridiculous..." |
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May 19 2011, 04:53 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
In fairness, his current hand is 100% (maybe 99%?) non-functional: no feeling, no movement. He's not removing a perfectly good hand.
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May 19 2011, 02:50 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
I can't wait until they get the sensor count from 6 to 30 or more. With 6 the one kid was able to do a lot, but with 30 or more you might get something resembling a biological hand.
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May 19 2011, 05:54 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,801 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17,589 |
QUOTE (Naysayer @ May 19 2011, 08:46 AM)  "The whole cyberpunk conceit of people just chopping off their limbs to get artificial replacements is ridiculous..." well, whether it is ridiculous or not, the link is not a proof for either side, since his hand is, as pointed out by Yerameyahu, non-functional.
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May 19 2011, 08:58 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
On the flipside, having even some sensation in prosthetic is supposed to cut down on phantom pain, not exactly a small thing.
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May 19 2011, 09:00 PM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
Yeah technically this is elective in the "everything that isn't emergent is elective" sense, but its hardly the same as having a cosmetic procedure or Lasik surgery or whatever. I think the story title is meant to sound a little sensational (which is disappointing for the BBC).
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May 19 2011, 10:00 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Awesome.
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May 20 2011, 04:14 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
the feedback system still relies on external stimuli it seems. Tho given how the brain can adapt to consistent external stimuli to the point of no longer being consciously aware of its presence (based on people wearing anklet that buzz in the direction of north and similar), i guess it works acceptably for now.
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May 20 2011, 04:38 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Considering the alternatives... Yeah.
We've come a long way since a wire hook was the best you could hope for. |
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May 21 2011, 10:53 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
QUOTE (Naysayer @ May 19 2011, 05:46 AM) "The whole cyberpunk conceit of people just chopping off their limbs to get artificial replacements is ridiculous..." Where's that quote from? |
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May 25 2011, 04:59 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 20-May 11 From: ONT Canada Member No.: 30,194 |
And the cyberzombie nation will rise...
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May 25 2011, 05:29 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Morg @ May 24 2011, 11:59 PM) And the cyberzombie nation will rise... "The Robots are trying to kill us!" *Lights go out* "But I still have the Big Red Button to shut them all down fast." |
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May 26 2011, 05:19 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 20-May 11 From: ONT Canada Member No.: 30,194 |
You will never stop my army of soulless monstrosities because we are Indestructible! We are Fast! We are all Knowing! so Nuts and bolts to your little red button one of us will get you...some day... Ok ok we still have a lot of work before the Transhuman and Robot army will bring forth The Rapture to humanity but one day, one day you'll see
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May 27 2011, 08:54 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,290 Joined: 23-January 07 From: Seattle, USA Member No.: 10,749 |
Using cybernetics to replaced damage/non-functional/missing limbs isn't elective the same way as chopping off your arm for a stronger metal arm is. At some point even that will become socially acceptable. We're allready seeing trends for increased body modification, and if time has told us anything, it's that humans don't know when to stop.
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May 27 2011, 10:21 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,026 Joined: 13-February 10 Member No.: 18,155 |
QUOTE (TheOOB @ May 27 2011, 01:54 AM) and if time has told us anything, it's that humans don't know when to stop. Plus la change. |
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May 27 2011, 11:17 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
QUOTE (Morg @ May 26 2011, 06:19 PM) Ok ok we still have a lot of work before the Transhuman and Robot army will bring forth The Singularity to humanity but one day, one day you'll see FTFY |
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May 27 2011, 01:42 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,801 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17,589 |
QUOTE (TheOOB @ May 27 2011, 12:54 PM) Using cybernetics to replaced damage/non-functional/missing limbs isn't elective the same way as chopping off your arm for a stronger metal arm is. At some point even that will become socially acceptable. We're allready seeing trends for increased body modification, and if time has told us anything, it's that humans don't know when to stop. Hell, better-than-meat implants are at least functional. Extreme body modification is just showing off.So I hope it'd be much more socially acceptable, actually. |
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May 27 2011, 06:55 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Well, as someone who personally knows two cyborgs, their lives are better for it.
Of course, one wasn't supposed to get out of the hospital alive decades ago and the other was hit by a speeding dump truck full of sand... |
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May 28 2011, 10:10 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ May 27 2011, 07:55 PM) Well, as someone who personally knows two cyborgs, their lives are better for it. Of course, one wasn't supposed to get out of the hospital alive decades ago and the other was hit by a speeding dump truck full of sand... Do they fight crime? |
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May 28 2011, 03:37 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ May 28 2011, 05:10 AM) Do they fight crime? No. That would involve picking fights with a massive, organized force in the city they live in that would have them disappear "into the night and fog". |
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