IPB
X   Site Message
(Message will auto close in 2 seconds)

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

9 Pages V  « < 4 5 6 7 8 > »   
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Spy Games now available for electronic download, print pre-order, Does Ghostwalker really eat spies?
hermit
post May 29 2011, 06:29 PM
Post #126


The King In Yellow
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 6,922
Joined: 26-February 05
From: JWD
Member No.: 7,121



QUOTE
Attitudes gear section isn't in any way "latest in runner-related technology".

Except for the nascent space marine armour. I agree she probably knows *something* about fashion, but I'd be suprised if she could outdo Kat (Rockerbabe) or Ma'fan (face/disguise expert adept) there. Countrary to popular belief, high fashion is NOT teenage fashion.

QUOTE
Can't really figure out why her personal reference for face changing matters to you, when she did still mention the other options.

Because it's weird, to say the least, that in a community of hackers, spies, mercenaries, thugs and bounty hunters, those least quqalified get to write sections that are very important for everyone there?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
redwulf25
post May 29 2011, 07:16 PM
Post #127


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 236
Joined: 19-March 11
Member No.: 24,929



QUOTE (Tycho @ May 29 2011, 06:33 AM) *
the biggest bullshit I have read so far is:



so /dev/grrl prefers MakeUp to Nannopaste Masks, which can change your complete face in an instant instead of haven to put makeup on for a while...

But I guess that is the quality you get if you let a teenage girl write about camouflage.

cya
Tycho


Well, her quote implies that she thinks guards with AR capability (and what guard wouldn't?) would have an easier time spotting a nano-paste mask than subtle alterations with makeup. In which case that would seem more a problem of fluff not matching rules than /dev/ being a /moron/.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
hobgoblin
post May 29 2011, 07:33 PM
Post #128


panda!
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,331
Joined: 8-March 02
From: north of central europe
Member No.: 2,242



rfids in the mask perhaps?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Fatum
post May 29 2011, 08:04 PM
Post #129


Runner
******

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 2,801
Joined: 2-September 09
From: Moscow, Russia
Member No.: 17,589



What kind of disguise device has an irremovable label saying "hello I'm a disguise device"?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
hermit
post May 29 2011, 08:15 PM
Post #130


The King In Yellow
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 6,922
Joined: 26-February 05
From: JWD
Member No.: 7,121



QUOTE
Well, her quote implies that she thinks guards with AR capability (and what guard wouldn't?) would have an easier time spotting a nano-paste mask than subtle alterations with makeup. In which case that would seem more a problem of fluff not matching rules than /dev/ being a /moron/.

Oh get real. Why should nanopaste be WiFi capable? Because it's so unwieldy to just skinlink it? Because you want your disguise utensils scream and shout they're actually a disguise?

This overreaching WiFi-is-everywhere idea of SR4's is totally idiotic. It makes ZERO sense, for runners or anyone doing clandestine things to have their weaposn, cyber and bond gadgets cheerfully messaging every bystander and security detail that they're actually illegal equipment. WiFi can be easily removed, and there is no reason at all disguise equipment should be WiFi capable in the first place. It'S not like Makeup is going to broadcast it's actually a pair of fake ears and coloured contacts either, or is it?

Actually, even having semilegal cyber - or really, ANY cyber or ANY weapon - be WiFi capable is utter lunacy in a world where computer security is a sad joke unless you happen to be the mainframe of a military spacestation. The rules books even say so. So no, that falls flat on it's face.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Tycho
post May 29 2011, 09:58 PM
Post #131


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 285
Joined: 22-April 06
From: Stuttgart, Germany
Member No.: 8,495



QUOTE (redwulf25 @ May 29 2011, 09:16 PM) *
Well, her quote implies that she thinks guards with AR capability (and what guard wouldn't?) would have an easier time spotting a nano-paste mask than subtle alterations with makeup. In which case that would seem more a problem of fluff not matching rules than /dev/ being a /moron/.


If that was the author's idea, just beat him with the rulebook until he knows his shit...

but I guess the rest of the chapter don't demonstrate rule-knowledge either.

cya
Tycho
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
CanRay
post May 29 2011, 10:16 PM
Post #132


Immortal Elf
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 14,358
Joined: 2-December 07
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Member No.: 14,465



Can we beat /dev/grrl instead? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Sengir
post May 30 2011, 01:44 PM
Post #133


Great Dragon
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 5,051
Joined: 3-October 09
From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier
Member No.: 17,709



QUOTE (hermit @ May 26 2011, 09:09 AM) *
Number stations are the Machine God Talking To US ...? Bizarre. But that is the intent of that section, I guess.

I remember seeing an episode of Fringe in which number station were claimed to have already been on air when the first human switched on a radio. Maybe that's were the idea comes from.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
hermit
post May 30 2011, 01:46 PM
Post #134


The King In Yellow
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 6,922
Joined: 26-February 05
From: JWD
Member No.: 7,121



QUOTE
I remember seeing an episode of Fringe in which number station were claimed to have already been on air when the first human switched on a radio. Maybe that's were the idea comes from.

I thought it was a reference to Lost, but you may be onto something there. Still, wtf.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
hobgoblin
post May 30 2011, 02:13 PM
Post #135


panda!
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,331
Joined: 8-March 02
From: north of central europe
Member No.: 2,242



https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w...Numbers_station
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Sengir
post May 30 2011, 02:27 PM
Post #136


Great Dragon
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 5,051
Joined: 3-October 09
From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier
Member No.: 17,709



I'm quite sure everybody knows what number stations are IRL, but Spy Games has some weird conspiracy theories about them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Brazilian_Shinob...
post May 30 2011, 02:32 PM
Post #137


Shooting Target
****

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 1,989
Joined: 28-July 09
From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast
Member No.: 17,437



QUOTE (Sengir @ May 30 2011, 11:27 AM) *
I'm quite sure everybody knows what number stations are IRL, but Spy Games has some weird conspiracy theories about them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


1- They are used by governments to send messages with one-time pads to spies.
2- They are used by the Maçons, Illuminati, Majestic 12 or whatever it is the semi-secret organization of the month that is trying to take over the world to send messages with one time pads to their agents.
3- They are used as transmission tests by some radios (boooooooooring).
4- They are ghosts trying to communicate with the living by sending messages with one-time pads that only mediums can understand.

Am I forgeting something else? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
hobgoblin
post May 30 2011, 02:39 PM
Post #138


panda!
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,331
Joined: 8-March 02
From: north of central europe
Member No.: 2,242



QUOTE (Sengir @ May 30 2011, 04:27 PM) *
I'm quite sure everybody knows what number stations are IRL, but Spy Games has some weird conspiracy theories about them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Actually had to look it up, so i figured i should post the link for reference reasons.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
hermit
post May 30 2011, 02:49 PM
Post #139


The King In Yellow
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 6,922
Joined: 26-February 05
From: JWD
Member No.: 7,121



QUOTE
Am I forgeting something else? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif)

They are the Machine God talking to you. Or rather, the Deep Resonance. Which seems to be what the blurb in the Spy Games equipment section is all about. Because 1,5 pages of weirdness really help if you want to look up the stats of that self-healing car paint or the Icarus.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Sengir
post May 30 2011, 03:41 PM
Post #140


Great Dragon
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 5,051
Joined: 3-October 09
From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier
Member No.: 17,709



QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ May 30 2011, 03:32 PM) *
Am I forgeting something else? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif)

Rule 34, obviously (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

@Hogob: OK, I assumed this to be somewhat common knowledge
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Megu
post May 31 2011, 06:35 AM
Post #141


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 411
Joined: 10-June 09
From: Minneapolis, MN
Member No.: 17,268



QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 30 2011, 08:39 AM) *
Actually had to look it up, so i figured i should post the link for reference reasons.


I hadn't heard of them either.

Sengir, I like the way you think.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
hobgoblin
post Jun 5 2011, 04:53 PM
Post #142


panda!
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,331
Joined: 8-March 02
From: north of central europe
Member No.: 2,242



Hmm, Aztech Crawler, weapon mount, SMG (tho one could go whole hog crazy and use a LMG), drone case the shape of a shoe...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Faelan
post Jun 5 2011, 07:32 PM
Post #143


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 584
Joined: 15-April 06
From: Pittsburgh
Member No.: 8,466



I have an issue with the Inculcate Metamagic. It provides a method of completely blasting the Augmented Skill Cap, and can be made to last days. Essentially let me borrow some extra firearms skill guys. Thanks watch as I run around and do everyones job except I now have twice the skill any normal has, and am more skilled than any Physical Adept. Was the intent to provide a single bonus die per three physical, because the way it is written it seems like you add them together, and kick ass from there.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Faelan
post Jun 5 2011, 08:41 PM
Post #144


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 584
Joined: 15-April 06
From: Pittsburgh
Member No.: 8,466



Palantir? Palantir? Really? Really?!! I don't expect to like everything in a book, I don't even expect every rule to be very well thought out, but this is pretty lame.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
hermit
post Jun 5 2011, 09:46 PM
Post #145


The King In Yellow
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 6,922
Joined: 26-February 05
From: JWD
Member No.: 7,121



QUOTE
Hmm, Aztech Crawler, weapon mount, SMG (tho one could go whole hog crazy and use a LMG), drone case the shape of a shoe...

Miniaturize rules, you forgot them. Then you can fit it, LMG included, into a pack of cigarettes.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
CanRay
post Jun 5 2011, 11:33 PM
Post #146


Immortal Elf
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 14,358
Joined: 2-December 07
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Member No.: 14,465



QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 5 2011, 04:46 PM) *
Miniaturize rules, you forgot them. Then you can fit it, LMG included, into a pack of cigarettes.

The bullets, however, are also miniaturized.

Which means they might annoy a Pixie.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Mäx
post Jun 6 2011, 03:58 AM
Post #147


Prime Runner
*******

Group: Members
Posts: 3,803
Joined: 3-February 08
From: Finland
Member No.: 15,628



QUOTE (Faelan @ Jun 5 2011, 10:32 PM) *
I have an issue with the Inculcate Metamagic. It provides a method of completely blasting the Augmented Skill Cap, and can be made to last days. Essentially let me borrow some extra firearms skill guys. Thanks watch as I run around and do everyones job except I now have twice the skill any normal has

You can only get twice the skill any normal has if your level 6 initiate(8 if we take account aptitude) and you have enought donors you can kill to get that, after all you have to do 3 point of physical damage for every 1 point you want to get, also to make it last for weeks you have to pay 6 karma(8 if you want to have douple that of aptitude guy) assuming you started at 6, if not then it's 1 more karma for every point you where under 6.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Tzeentch
post Jun 6 2011, 04:41 AM
Post #148


Moving Target
**

Group: Members
Posts: 746
Joined: 26-February 02
Member No.: 459



-- I have learned that Coeur d' Alene is so close to Boise and the PCC that it merits special attention (note: CDA and Boise are on opposite ends of Idaho). I had a good laugh at that (Spy Games, p. 169).
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
hermit
post Jun 6 2011, 06:16 AM
Post #149


The King In Yellow
*********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 6,922
Joined: 26-February 05
From: JWD
Member No.: 7,121



QUOTE (CanRay @ Jun 6 2011, 01:33 AM) *
The bullets, however, are also miniaturized.

Which means they might annoy a Pixie.

Nah, they're still that generic SR ammo that works on every weapon in a given cathegory. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
CanRay
post Jun 6 2011, 06:18 AM
Post #150


Immortal Elf
**********

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 14,358
Joined: 2-December 07
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Member No.: 14,465



QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 6 2011, 01:16 AM) *
Nah, they're still that generic SR ammo that works on every weapon in a given cathegory. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Do I have to hulk out again?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

9 Pages V  « < 4 5 6 7 8 > » 
Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 12th April 2022 - 08:49 PM

Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.