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 Mar 26 2004, 04:25 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 26-March 04 Member No.: 6,199  |
What exactly can sesnors see? I'm about to play a rigger with drones but I'm not sure about what information sensors can pick up.
I know they can cover things like low-light, thermal, ultrasound, radar etc, but can they for instance detect whats on the other side of a wall in a room? After all if you look at the flux ratings the range on the sensors is on the Km scale. Can I roll my drone up to the door of a room and detect movement, heat, radar refections on the other side? Or you could use your drone as a point man to determine incoming hostiles. After reading the stories in Renraku Arcology: Shutdown it would appear that sensors can do this. Also if a drone is targeting a person (sig 6) who is wearing a Ruthenium Polymer Cloak then can the drone use radar to negate any target penalties? |
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Mar 26 2004, 04:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,183 |
Yes, provided the target(s) are within flux range
Same answer as above
M&M states that vehicle sensors reduce the TN modifiers provided by ruthenium polymers by half (round down) Hope that helps! |
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Mar 26 2004, 08:33 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,763 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Special Hell Member No.: 284 |
No. Solid objects will block radar and ultrasound transmissions, even millimetric wave radar. Thermal scans as well have difficulty accurately reflecting a heat source through a solid object. There are some window glasses and plastics which are thermally transparent and will allow a sensor such as FLIR to see through, but a security conscious corporation would probably avoid such things. Also, any insulation in between walls is going to make acoustic sensor gathering difficult. Drone sensors, for the most part, are considered line of sight. The flux ratings, when expressed in kilometers, are a measure of how far, given no intervening terrain, that a target could reasonably be detected. |
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Mar 26 2004, 08:44 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Reinbek, Germany Member No.: 72 |
Especially, as this would be special materials not commonly used anyway. Normal windows are opaque to thermographics. As for the flux-ranges: As Grendel said, those sensors mostly require some form of LOS. Mostly flux is important in case of sensors, if you use it as a homing signal. |
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Mar 26 2004, 09:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,183 |
EDIT - Yeah, he's right. I just checked Raytheon's site. They can't. |
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Mar 26 2004, 09:51 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,763 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Special Hell Member No.: 284 |
:)
This post has been edited by grendel: Mar 26 2004, 09:52 PM |
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Mar 26 2004, 09:54 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
There are bonuses to the Sensor test if the object being located is within LOS, so I'm assuming there's a certain amount they can see beyond LOS...
~J |
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Mar 26 2004, 10:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,183 |
I agree, but on what spectrum would the drone be seing it?
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Mar 27 2004, 01:35 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,652 |
Kagetenshi said:
I concur. As far as the type of sensor data, it would most likely be ground penetrating radar. But since it is the 2060s, it could be something more exotic, such as the magnetic field signature of people (electric impulses of a beating heart) or machines (ie. from electronics or spark plug systems). |
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Mar 27 2004, 01:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 409 Joined: 9-March 04 Member No.: 6,140 |
Don't forget over the horizon radar. Non-LOS could mean that, rather than seeing through objects.
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Mar 27 2004, 03:03 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
But it's a bonus for being in LOS, leading me to believe that the test assumes non-LOS.
~J |
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Mar 27 2004, 03:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 27-August 02 From: Scotland Member No.: 3,175 |
Over-the-horizon radar is just for ships really, but I'd think something similar to that must be incorporated into sensors that can see through/round walls. Something that relfects off things, or bends round walls and so on, as well as sensors that use various wavelengths that see right through certain barriers.
Who knows what they'll have come up with by the 2060s! |
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Mar 27 2004, 07:35 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
millimeter-wave radar can pass through objects, depending on the object's composition. if it's metal, you're SOL; other materials are transparent or translucent to mmw radar. as a general rule, i'd add 1/2 the obstacle's barrier rating to the target's signature rating.
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