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Jun 19 2011, 06:18 PM
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#626
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
For first: Actually there are rules even for low essence characters there's a disadvantage specificly in augmentation. THe psychological problems with augmentations flaws is the exception to the rule, not the rule to the exception though . . Building a new character this last week made me think about how much essence seems to nickle and dime you to death, especially on things that can be duplicated with gear. In my mind almost any headware, especially the comlink should come with a datajack without additional essence boost, in fact internal comlink (.2 essence) should really come with a datajack and sim module. doesn't EVERY (internal) comlink come with a cold sim module? |
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Jun 19 2011, 07:38 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I think not having a datajack is a feature, probably. Still, you can just skinlink it.
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Jun 19 2011, 08:15 PM
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#628
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,507 Joined: 11-November 08 Member No.: 16,582 |
doesn't EVERY (internal) comlink come with a cold sim module? Nope, unfortunately not. SR4A even explicitly states, that the internal commlink 'ware does not include a Sim Module. Interestingly it does not say that it is only the housing and does not include an actual commlink. Hah, Fairlight Caliban for ¥2000. |
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Jun 19 2011, 08:24 PM
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
Nope, unfortunately not. SR4A even explicitly states, that the internal commlink 'ware does not include a Sim Module. Interestingly it does not say that it is only the housing and does not include an actual commlink. Hah, Fairlight Caliban for ¥2000. Except that the cost is very clearly listed as 2,000¥ + Commlink Cost (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) |
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Jun 19 2011, 09:07 PM
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#630
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,507 Joined: 11-November 08 Member No.: 16,582 |
woops, didn't look on the next page (IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarrassed.gif)
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Jun 19 2011, 09:39 PM
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
As for Task spirits, well, they are the answer to why my Possession character has a commlink with a Braille output and an actual honest to god keyboard. Huh? Are you trying to hack with it? You can summon a Task Spirit with the Hacking skill. The problem is, spirits cannot use DNI or trodes, and can't read screens. So a physical input and output are needed, thus the Braille display and keyboard. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) As for psych issues, you can take them for low essence if you CHOOSE to, but they are not by default part of having low Essence. By default a 0.01 Essence guy can be cheerful and well adjusted. -k |
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Jun 19 2011, 09:42 PM
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#632
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Cheerful while his cybernetic weapons are slicing and dicing through people, as he sings a happy song and dances around in the rain of blood, a massive grin on his face and happiness in his heart!
... Oh, wait, that's almost every character with cybernetic weaponry, no matter the remaining essence, never mind. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Jun 19 2011, 09:54 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
I think not having a datajack is a feature, probably. Still, you can just skinlink it. How do you skinlink something inside your skull with no external access points? I feel that the games fluff has over and over and over portrayed people with low essence as grim and borderline scoiopathic, while there isn't a mandatory necessty it was clearly intended to be the norm. It's utter bullshit but there ya go. |
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Jun 19 2011, 09:55 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Skinlink doesn't actually use your skin.
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Jun 19 2011, 09:59 PM
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#635
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
QUOTE Skinlink: With skinlink, a device is adapted to send and receive data transmitted through the electrical field on the surface of metahuman skin. Though limited to touch, skinlink communication has the advantage of being protected from signal interception or jamming. Actually yes it does. It's wonder tech but it does have limitations, if you want your intental ware on skinlink logically you need a datajack. |
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Jun 19 2011, 10:18 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
Shouldn't a taser fry a skinlink? Just like a taser or fireball ought to fry trodes?
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Jun 19 2011, 10:19 PM
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#637
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
*Headdesk* I can be silent no longer.
Skinlink sounds like a great idea, but the only way I can see this working is having the skin work as a Hub. Yes, it allows for communication, but Datastorms would be rife! There should be some kind of limiter, or perhaps a cybernetic system that allows the skin to function better as a Switch or Router instead. Rant over. |
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Jun 19 2011, 10:27 PM
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
SR3 had Cyber-Ware-Router and Ports.
You could and usually had to cascade routers, if you wanted all of your active implants to be connected to each other . . Yes, you could actually make a Network Overview Chart of your characters internal parts . . Of course, nobody really used that, because all they did were take up essence and money without providing ANY benefit . . |
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Jun 19 2011, 10:29 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Well, useful now. Prevent combat hacking a person's wireless PAN and taking over their cybernetic systems. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Jun 19 2011, 10:33 PM
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Well, useful now. Prevent combat hacking a person's wireless PAN and taking over their cybernetic systems. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Well, the Datajack had 3 ports plus the jack for the cable. And as of SR4, the comlink should have these ports included . . |
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Jun 19 2011, 10:39 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
True enough. Means you don't need to have your head cracked for that Vintage Ares Predator II and it's Smartgun Link which uses a datacable instead of wireless. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Just plug it into your CommLink and there you go.
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Jun 19 2011, 10:40 PM
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Comlink doesn't have an external port for the plug though . . *trollface* Problem CanRay? *snickers*
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Jun 19 2011, 10:42 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
You know, the more I hear about CommLinks, the more I think Bull has the right idea about how to do things...
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Jun 19 2011, 10:46 PM
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
You know, the more I hear about CommLinks, the more I think Bull has the right idea about how to do things... QUOTE "They will have to pry my Cyberdeck out of my cold dead Hands!" Yep, he certainly seems to be on to something there . . *trollface* umadbro? *snickers* ^^ |
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Jun 20 2011, 12:06 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Nah, LurkerOutThere. We know that skinlink isn't quite limited to touch, from Unwired. It's not blocked by clothing, so I don't see it being blocked by being under the skin. I suppose you could technically rule against that… if you didn't finish reading that same paragraph in Unwired. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It says that implants can always be skinlinked.
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Jun 20 2011, 01:05 AM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
You know, the more I hear about CommLinks, the more I think Bull has the right idea about how to do things... I'm with himn on this one. Commlink in my head equals a celphone or, more approriately, the old Pocket Secretary. I cannot in good conscience see Fastjack whippin' out a Verizon flip-phone and hacking into an MCT mainframe. I just *can't*. |
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Jun 20 2011, 04:20 AM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,186 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
Of course Fastjack wouldn't use a flip phone... His "deck" is a custom built Nexus with the Response and Signal jacked so high, military people are going: "Uh, sir... can we buy that?"
Now back to cyber commlinks... can you put a sim module into a cyber commlink without it taking up any extra capacity or Essence. It is just part of the commlink... just like the other commlink add-ons in Unwired. |
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Jun 20 2011, 04:28 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Of course Fastjack wouldn't use a flip phone... His "deck" is a custom built Nexus with the Response and Signal jacked so high, military people are going: "Uh, sir... can we buy that?" Now back to cyber commlinks... can you put a sim module into a cyber commlink without it taking up any extra capacity or Essence. It is just part of the commlink... just like the other commlink add-ons in Unwired. Don't forget the Apple CPU from a Mac Firestorm. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Jun 20 2011, 05:17 AM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
Nah, LurkerOutThere. We know that skinlink isn't quite limited to touch, from Unwired. It's not blocked by clothing, so I don't see it being blocked by being under the skin. I suppose you could technically rule against that… if you didn't finish reading that same paragraph in Unwired. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It says that implants can always be skinlinked. I provided my paragraph, care to provide yours? Even if it is out of the stupid that is unwired i want to see if before I believe it. |
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Jun 20 2011, 05:29 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Lazy, *and* untrusting! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Besides, I didn't want yours.
QUOTE (Unwired p59) —the electrical field extends a bit beyond the skin, so clothing does not interfere), and both must be equipped with the skinlink accessory. Cybernetic implants may also be equipped with skinlink, even if they are not accessible on the body’s exterior—
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