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> Drone sizes, Or, how big is the Steel Lynx?
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post Jun 7 2011, 05:30 AM
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Drone sizes are given a range of measurements for each size level, I know this, but there are a few drones that I haven't found a picture for, and I would like to know what The Consensus has to say on the subject. Specifically, how big do you treat the Steel Lynx and the Seampunk Dragons? The size ranges given are way to wide for me to pin them down. Partly it's curiousity, and partly it's to keep Longbow from buying dozens of dragons for the free flamethrowers. In fact, while we're at it, why did they give us an unstatted flamethrower?
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post Jun 7 2011, 05:37 AM
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SR4a, page 96 has a pic of an elf working on a Steel Lynx.
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post Jun 7 2011, 07:32 AM
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The Steel Lynx entry's art in Fields of Fire has a human figure for scale. Here is a more modern iteration of a very similar drone that just can be used instead, though it's slightly smaller than the Lynx in FoF.
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post Jun 7 2011, 07:48 AM
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Dang they look sweet. Could call them a 'Similar Model' to the medium sized GMC-Nissan Doberman of SR3 (you know, the one that rolled around instead of having legs).
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post Jun 7 2011, 07:57 AM
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Yeah. That's very close to my own imagination fo the good old Doberman. But it works for the Lynx too. At least they're not redesigned to look like moderately threatening and very shy felines ...
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post Jun 7 2011, 08:03 AM
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Since there's established artwork for the Steel Lynx, even in SR4, I'd stick to that one being named as that. The two that show in the youtube vid you linked could be called something different but still use the same stats as the Steel Lynx (like an Ares Iron Panther or Aztechnology Chupacabra or something).
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post Jun 7 2011, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Jun 7 2011, 10:03 AM) *
Since there's established artwork for the Steel Lynx, even in SR4, I'd stick to that one being named as that. The two that show in the youtube vid you linked could be called something different but still use the same stats as the Steel Lynx (like an Ares Iron Panther or Aztechnology Chupacabra or something).

Official (as of SR3, source: R3R) variants of the Winter Systems Steel Lynx Combat Drone are the Armaments Éireann-Tír Gaiscíoch and ATT Drache (ATT being a Brit subsidiary of Saeder-Krupp). Also, Winter Systems is a New York Ares subsidiary, so an Ares variant would be rather redundant. Aztehnology has no canon ground combat drones save for a variant of the Ruhrmetall wolfsspinne, though, for some reason.
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post Jun 7 2011, 10:44 AM
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Large drones are described as "Motorcycle size".

When it comes to Lighter Than Air i would suggest making them car sized (big balloon and all that )
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post Jun 7 2011, 12:42 PM
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With LTA drones, I picture the gondola being the typical size for it's body, and the envelope being much larger.

For example, a Stormcloud being a lawnmower-sized body under a shipping container-sized transparent plastic envelope.
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post Jun 7 2011, 01:39 PM
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Is it motorcycle-sized? I thought Body 4 drones were 'small car sized' (like, not a Smart, but maybe a Mini Cooper).
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post Jun 7 2011, 01:48 PM
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I'd been running it as Smart Car sized, mostly to keep it out of buildings. Somewhere between Mini and smart works for me. Now here's the big question, how big are the Steampunk Dragons? and how many of them sould a Str 1 Bod 1man carry?
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post Jun 7 2011, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 7 2011, 02:39 PM) *
Is it motorcycle-sized? I thought Body 4 drones were 'small car sized' (like, not a Smart, but maybe a Mini Cooper).


Large Drones (BOD 4) range from Motorcycle to smaller car.

So a BOD 5 (similar models rule) could be a small car.

In the case of a LTA I would say Small Car+Huge balloon sized.
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post Jun 7 2011, 01:55 PM
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Ah. I guess a big motorcycle is already beyond Smart Car size anyway, though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 7 2011, 02:35 PM
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They sell the Smart in America? That's a serious question, because I read that Mercedes pulled it because there was no interest.

Also, check this image for a blimp-sized drone. I'd say it's a small car, one magnitude larger than a Mini, like a Toyota Yaris or Renault Twingo, or Chevy (Pontiac?) Spark.
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post Jun 7 2011, 02:53 PM
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They have been sold in America and there are some around. I don't know if they are being actively made/shipped here for sale though. Most likely not, Americans like their giant super cars of doom. Also, most Americans likely couldn't fit in a smart car.
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post Jun 7 2011, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (Ghost_in_the_System @ Jun 7 2011, 11:53 AM) *
They have been sold in America and there are some around. I don't know if they are being actively made/shipped here for sale though. Most likely not, Americans like their giant super cars of doom. Also, most Americans likely couldn't fit in a smart car.


A fair number of Canadians probably not, either. Or, you know, the car would be like a second skin...
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post Jun 7 2011, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 7 2011, 09:35 AM) *
They sell the Smart in America? That's a serious question, because I read that Mercedes pulled it because there was no interest.

There's some Smart Cars in Canada, I can confirm that.

My first impression, and still current, is that I'm bigger than the damned things just walking. But, for their job, getting around a city, they're doing what they're supposed to.

Problem is... Canada lacks City. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Just too much Not-City. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jun 7 2011, 07:50 PM
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With the extra safety equipment that american laws demand, the Smart loses a lot of it's fuel efficiency and performance due to extra weight... which doesn't help its popularity at all.
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post Jun 7 2011, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (Falanin @ Jun 7 2011, 03:50 PM) *
With the extra safety equipment that american laws demand, the Smart loses a lot of it's fuel efficiency and performance due to extra weight... which doesn't help its popularity at all.


Its true, they barely get the mileage to be worth buying. Usually you're better off with a regular compact or subcompact, same mileage-same price-bigger car, or just jumping on the fuel efficiency bandwagon all the way and shelling out for a prius. They definely sell Smarts here in the US, one of my neighbors has one.
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post Jun 7 2011, 10:36 PM
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I love the Smart Cars. I want two, then I'd have a pair of roller skates! (But yes, they definitely sell them here)
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post Jun 7 2011, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE (Bull @ Jun 7 2011, 03:36 PM) *
I love the Smart Cars. I want two, then I'd have a pair of roller skates! (But yes, they definitely sell them here)

Thanks for the smile (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 8 2011, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE (Falanin @ Jun 7 2011, 02:50 PM) *
With the extra safety equipment that american laws demand, the Smart loses a lot of it's fuel efficiency and performance due to extra weight... which doesn't help its popularity at all.

Yeah, well, all I know is that even with that equipment, they probably weigh less than a Moose and would loose that kind of fight. A not inconsiderable thing for me to have in mind if I ever go back to Northern Ontario.
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post Jun 8 2011, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jun 7 2011, 10:19 PM) *
Yeah, well, all I know is that even with that equipment, they probably weigh less than a Moose and would loose that kind of fight. A not inconsiderable thing for me to have in mind if I ever go back to Northern Ontario.


Or, anywhere in New Brunswick.
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post Jun 8 2011, 02:53 PM
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Anyhow, a Steel Lynx is larger than a breadbox. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jun 8 2011, 03:04 PM
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I like the fact that with similar models I can take a small drone (BOD 2) and change it to BOD 3 and add a weapon mount.

The question is if I can manage to squeeze in (or build the drone around it) a Ares Firelance Vehicle Laser... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

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