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[hermit]

Actually if you take "Warhammer" and apply it to anything, you should expect character lives to be brutal and short. There's not much in the way of long drawn-out anything in those games.

And yet Dark Heresy is significantly less deadly than SR4.

Ahahaha boni.

Your problem being?

[Fortinbras]

Because I really like SR4. I like the mechanics, I like character building, I like advancement.

If you like the system, don't knock it.

By high threat magic I meant threatening to the caster. In Warhammer a miscast can easily spell the death of the wizard.

Increase drain. If you want it to be more random than that, use the mana ebb rules in Street Magic or the fluctuating mana table from California Free State.

I come from the D&D forums, which are extremely well organized and alot of effort is spent on making forum information readily accessible and useful (e.g. each class has a guide written by posters). If there isn't that sort of thing here, or any general consensus on what the best house rules for dangerous magic is, I will go back to what I was doing in the first place (which was reading through old posts).

The people who run Dumpshock put a lot of time and effort into it for free. I'm sorry it's not up to your standards of excellence, but I've found it to be a vibrant and useful tool for all of my games. The search features require some getting used to, but much like the game, it is far more open ended than D&D and requires you to put more work into it so you get more out of it.
Backhanded insults to people who give us their time and energy for free so we can use this forum don't sit well with me at all.

The consensus within the community to make magic more dangerous is to increase drain. The consensus for converting SR4 rules into other settings is "DONT!"

And D20 gives you cancer!

[Epicedion]

And yet Dark Heresy is significantly less deadly than SR4.

That's a strange departure. I remember many GW-derivative games that ended in variations of "and then the party is killed by a freak landslide, the end."

Your problem being?

1) "Boni" sounds dirty.

2) The words is "bonuses." Also "octopuses," "nexuses," and "viruses."

3) "Boni" sounds dirty.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

That's a strange departure. I remember many GW-derivative games that ended in variations of "and then the party is killed by a freak landslide, the end."




1) "Boni" sounds dirty.

2) The words is "bonuses." Also "octopuses," "nexuses," and "viruses."

3) "Boni" sounds dirty.

One Nexus, Multiple Nexi... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Epicedion]

One Nexus, Multiple Nexi... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Only in SR.

[Bigity]

I had a good laugh at the idea of there being epic swordplay in WHFRP.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Only in SR.

Which is all that matters... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[hermit]

1) "Boni" sounds dirty.

2) The words is "bonuses." Also "octopuses," "nexuses," and "viruses."

3) "Boni" sounds dirty.

What does sound 'dirty' there? That's an honest question. But yes, it seems the wrong plural.

That's a strange departure. I remember many GW-derivative games that ended in variations of "and then the party is killed by a freak landslide, the end."

It's pretty hard to kill anything in one blow unless you roll seriously good. I downed a Herald of Khorne with one shot once, but that was an extra lucky hit. regularily, you survive a few attacks. in SR, it's usualy one shot kills for anything, including PCs. And you hardly ever have more than 5 Edge except in special builds, whereas an experienced DH character fairly fast has some 7 fate.

[Fortinbras]

What does sound 'dirty' there? That's an honest question. But yes, it seems the wrong plural.

It might only sound dirty in America.