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[Bushw4cker]

What is the best way a team can go about trying to find a Security RFID Tag? The Radio Signal Scanner seems to be the best bet, but how does a team approach it? Drive around Rolling Electronic Warfare + Radio Signal Scanner Rating? Hack Public/Private nodes to find if the RFID tag was logged in their system? (Would it be unrealistic for say a shop, to keep track of all RFID tags that passed though their business?) Any ideas, comments or suggestions are appreciated.

Example: Finding a Paracritter with a Security RFID Tag Implant

This is what the book says about Radio Signal Scanner and Detecting Wireless traffic.


Radio Signal Scanner: The radio signal scanner locates and locks
in on radio traffic from RFID tags, wireless networks, and other transmitters,
and is especially useful at capturing signals originating from
nearby. The scanner can also measure a signal’s strength and pinpoint
its location. Treat the scanner as if it were a Sniffer program (p. 234)
equal to its rating; see p. 229 for rules on detecting and intercepting
wireless signals.

Sniffer (Electronic Warfare/Hacking)
Sniffer programs gather data traffic and wireless signals and capture the
information. Sniffer programs are the ultimate Matrix spying utility,
used for the Intercept Traffic (p. 230) and Intercept Wireless Signals
(p. 229) actions.

Capture Wireless Signal (Sniffer)
You eavesdrop on wireless traffic going to and from a device. You must
be within the device’s Signal range to capture the traffic. You must succeed
in an Electronic Warfare + Sniffer (3) test to start the capture,
and then you may copy, record, or forward the traffic without another
test as long as you remain within the target device’s Signal range and
keep the Sniffer program running.
There is no way for other parties to detect your capture (without
access to your commlink, of course). If the traffic is encrypted, you
must break the encryption before it can be captured.

[Yerameyahu]

First off, yep, the RSS crunch/fluff doesn't match or make sense. Ugh.

The easiest way to 'find' tags is to just destroy them. Assume they're everywhere and zap it all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

I'm honestly not sure what the intended method is. Hmm.

[Draco18s]

Crucial piece of information:

You must be within the device’s Signal range to capture the traffic.

An RFID tag has signal 0 and therefor you'd have to be within 3 feet (1 meter) of it in order to pick it up.

[KCKitsune]

You can always use a commlink with a high signal rating and an Agent with a sniffer program in its payload.

Have the Agent continuously active and looking for the RFID. If it finds the RFID, then it alerts you to the status of the RFID.

[Headshot_Joe]

An RFID tag has signal 0 and therefor you'd have to be within 3 feet (1 meter) of it in order to pick it up.

Meaning anybody would have to be within 3 feet. So, just keep the goods more than three feet away from everything, and it can't be tracked by RFID. It's a safe bet that once it's in your van, it's more than three feet from any scanner at all times (assuming the tag is in the center of the van, and the van is more than six feet wide, more than six feet tall, and more than six feet long) and you can proceed to drive about with no fear of that pesky RFID tag causing you trouble. Might help to have a jammer in your van as well. Or a HERF gun.

[Draco18s]

You can always use a commlink with a high signal rating

Ahem. It's mutual signal range. It always is.

[Bigity]

Yup they are only good for chokepoint types of situations really, or a building where you can put scanners in all over the place.

Which is silly because RFID tags today easily go over 20 feet. Oh well, it keeps things nice and simple which is the point of Signal ratings (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bushw4cker]

Crucial piece of information:



An RFID tag has signal 0 and therefor you'd have to be within 3 feet (1 meter) of it in order to pick it up.

They have a signal rating of 1 (40m)
1 40m RFID tags, handheld electronics (pg 222 SR4A)

[Bigity]

That makes alot more sense (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bushw4cker]

Ahem. It's mutual signal range. It always is.

I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be able to detect a RFID tag with a high signal, for 2 way communication (That RFID tag being able to send you any information) you would need to be in mutual signal range.

[Draco18s]

I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be able to detect a RFID tag with a high signal, for 2 way communication (That RFID tag being able to send you any information) you would need to be in mutual signal range.

Ah ha. But you're looking to RECEIVE info from the RFID, not SEND data to it, therefore the important signal number is the RFID tag's signal rating.¹ So having a high signal comlink doesn't help at all.

¹Which is 1 (I stand corrected, I thought they were 0s).

[Headshot_Joe]

They have a signal rating of 1 (40m)
1 40m RFID tags, handheld electronics (pg 222 SR4A)

My argument still stands with the adjustment that the van must now be 40 meters long, wide, and tall.

[suoq]

They have a signal rating of 1 (40m)
1 40m RFID tags, handheld electronics (pg 222 SR4A)

Minor correction from the same page. They actually have a signal rating of 1 (40m), 2 (100m), or 3(300 m).

A device’s hardware ratings may only be upgraded by +2 with regards to their original ratings

Pumping a single RFID tage to signal 3 is only 150 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) , not worth doing in bulk but for a special use RFID, more than worth it.

Edit: If you want to drive a 600m diameter blimp as your getaway vehicle with the tag secured in the very center, go for it.
A Telematics Infrastructure is NOT your friend in this case.

[Christian Lafay]

Which brings us back to the dead-zone cargo van.

[Bushw4cker]

Ah ha. But you're looking to RECEIVE info from the RFID, not SEND data to it, therefore the important signal number is the RFID tag's signal rating.¹ So having a high signal comlink doesn't help at all.

¹Which is 1 (I stand corrected, I thought they were 0s).

I'm assuming routing goes on for RFID tags

Never saw this before. Security, Sensor, and Stealth Tags have Device Rating of 3, so Signal 3 (400m)

[sabs]

hackers doing jam on the fly are much better at jamming than your average jammer.

EW Skill + Commlink Signal vs ew*+signal + eccm


* EW skill of a RFID = 0 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[HunterHerne]

Don`t forget that the 2070`s matrix is built so each commlink acts like a retrans unit. Unless you are sniffing, which explicitly requires you to be able to pick up the device's direct activities in and out, almost everyone should be able to at least notice the RFID's. Even if they can't tell the exact location.

[Bushw4cker]

back to my original question.....

What is the best way a team can go about trying to find a Security RFID Tag? The Radio Signal Scanner seems to be the best bet, but how does a team approach it? Drive around Rolling Electronic Warfare + Radio Signal Scanner Rating? Hack Public/Private nodes to find if the RFID tag was logged in their system? (Would it be unrealistic for say a shop, to keep track of all RFID tags that passed though their business?) Any ideas, comments or suggestions are appreciated.

Example: Trying to track a Paracritter with a Security RFID tag implant.

[sabs]

Security RFID tags are encrypted. You have to find the signal, decrypt it, then hack it.

The best bet would be to have the AccessID of a machine that's supposed to be able to track said RFID in the first place. Then the RFID tag will contact YOU, and tell you where it is.

[HunterHerne]

Use the RSS. It is likely the cheapest way to be able to find them.

[Yerameyahu]

The Device Rating shorthand rules are not a stupidity pact, though. If it doesn't make sense for a tag to have Signal 3, it doesn't. Unwired lists 'RFID tag' as having straight 1's. While I can see the utility of certain tags having more range, it also doesn't make sense if they're very small—these are microscopic. Sensor tags, etc. could well be much bigger.

[Bushw4cker]

Security RFID tags are encrypted. You have to find the signal, decrypt it, then hack it.

The best bet would be to have the AccessID of a machine that's supposed to be able to track said RFID in the first place. Then the RFID tag will contact YOU, and tell you where it is.

Your thinking Stealth Tags

[Christian Lafay]

back to my original question.....

What is the best way a team can go about trying to find a Security RFID Tag? The Radio Signal Scanner seems to be the best bet, but how does a team approach it? Drive around Rolling Electronic Warfare + Radio Signal Scanner Rating? Hack Public/Private nodes to find if the RFID tag was logged in their system? (Would it be unrealistic for say a shop, to keep track of all RFID tags that passed though their business?) Any ideas, comments or suggestions are appreciated.

Example: Trying to track a Paracritter with a Security RFID tag implant.

Tons, and I mean TONS, of small cheap agent coms sleeping around the city. Our hacker calls it Total Enveloping Detection. "Haaaave ya' met TED? Alright minions, wake up. Look for this freak. Found it? No? Alright, go back to sleep. He ain't in Seattle anymore."

[Bushw4cker]

Tons, and I mean TONS, of small cheap agent coms sleeping around the city. Our hacker calls it Total Enveloping Detection. "Haaaave ya' met TED? Alright minions, wake up. Look for this freak. Found it? No? Alright, go back to sleep. He ain't in Seattle anymore."

Agent Coms?

[Christian Lafay]

Agent Coms?

Commlinks with agent programs on them. It's not cheap and it took a long time to set up.