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post Jun 22 2011, 02:28 PM
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The two biggies are, of course, Lone Star and Knight Errant, with Hard Corps (Another Ares-owned company that's more legbreaker-filled than the professionals of KE), known to be a small player. Who else has been listed as a security provider on a level beyond a single city? I suddenly blank on who does the security for Tokyo, but it seems that there're a few more out there that I'm overlooking.

Anyone have a quick datadump?
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post Jun 22 2011, 02:29 PM
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Friendly Officers, a wholly owned subsidiary of Horizon, who have the nicest peace officers ever to beat you into submission? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jun 22 2011, 02:33 PM
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Wolverine field brutal, cybered well-armoured units who focus on gangs. Eagle Security are notable for screwing up in Chicago. Centurion provide investigatory personnel to European cops in small cities, and merc squads for peacekeeping operations in Africa.

Tokyo is handled by local police, who generally don't carry fire-arms. Most corporate and private security I imagine is handled by the entrenched Japanacorps.
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post Jun 22 2011, 02:48 PM
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Back in the day, Met2000 also handled "aggressive" police actions.
You know, the ones that involved airstrikes, over-the-horizon artillery and minimal care. (Africa, especially)

Metro Guard (ie: Seattle USCA's national guard) also perform police duties on certain government institutions - the pissing matches between them, Lonestar, the Regular army and every other badge were stressed heavily in the earlier stuff (Fast way to get good weapons, I suppose)

There were also a bunch of one-offs (the security mooks handling the morgue/crematorium in Eyewitness springs to mind) in the older adventures.
Damn, there was a list in the Corporate Security splatbook (the dwarf techie on the cover) but that's a book from long ago. I assume they've updated it to now?

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post Jun 22 2011, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE (Tiralee @ Jun 22 2011, 09:48 AM) *
Metro Guard (ie: Seattle USCA's national guard) also perform police duties on certain government institutions - the pissing matches between them, Lonestar, the Regular army and every other badge were stressed heavily in the earlier stuff (Fast way to get good weapons, I suppose)
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They're also really good at locking up Metahumans and their families in warehouses and watching them as they burn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

NYPD, Inc. is another one. I included them in my write-up of Winnipeg, BTW.
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post Jun 23 2011, 01:49 AM
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Yeah, I knew several cities still had an incorporated PD. I just wouldn't expect, for instance, the NYPD INC to show up as security in, let's say, Ohio. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 23 2011, 07:21 AM
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I'm about a hojillion miles away from home at the moment, but if anyone else has SotA '64 lying around, there's an excellent listing of major security companies in their law enforcement chapter.
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post Jun 23 2011, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jun 22 2011, 12:12 PM) *
They're also really good at locking up Metahumans and their families in warehouses and watching them as they burn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

NYPD, Inc. is another one. I included them in my write-up of Winnipeg, BTW.


They're not just good. They're the best at what they do, bub. And what they do is lock metahumans and their families in warehouses and watch as they burn. (It isn't very pretty.)

Ha, nice. If there's anything resembling Calgary's current memes in the 2070s, which wouldn't be too surprising as it's still a corporate city that no doubt considers itself very highly, they'd take any comparison to NYC (even just through the sharing of its security company) as just another example of how it's a WORLD CLASS CITY. Not sure about Winnipeg's particular peccadillos, though.
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post Jun 23 2011, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE (Critias @ Jun 23 2011, 01:21 AM) *
I'm about a hojillion miles away from home at the moment, but if anyone else has SotA '64 lying around, there's an excellent listing of major security companies in their law enforcement chapter.


The other collection of them is in The Neo-Anarchists' Guide to Real Life, back in 2e. Not a lot of discussion of the actual companies "personalities", though.
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post Jun 23 2011, 04:06 PM
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Wasn't there "Lone Eagle" in Chicago? I seem to remember reading when bug city went down many of them acterd like the police did in RL New Orleans after Katrina, where 1/3 never returned to work.

Eye Witness listed a "Two Star" security as barely mall cop level sec who were under paid, under trained and under motivated.

Other than the well known Lone star police unit, a seperate division was Lone Star Security. I think that was the original corp that the metropolitan police were an offshoot of them. Like Hard Cops these are not peace officers but heavy thugs.
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post Jun 23 2011, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Jun 23 2011, 11:06 AM) *
Eye Witness listed a "Two Star" security as barely mall cop level sec who were under paid, under trained and under motivated.
Unlike mall cops today who are overpaid, well trained, and highly motivated? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jun 23 2011, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jun 23 2011, 10:31 AM) *
Unlike mall cops today who are overpaid, well trained, and highly motivated? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)


Exactly... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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post Jun 23 2011, 06:28 PM
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Minute Men Security is NeoNET's security corp. They handle security in Philly. The Novel Striper Assassin covers them in a bit of detail.

Notice Striper, not Stripper.
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post Jun 23 2011, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (Fortinbras @ Jun 23 2011, 11:28 AM) *
Minute Men Security is NepNET's security corp. They handle security in Philly. The Novel Striper Assassin covers them in a bit of detail.

Notice Striper, not Stripper.


Because Tigers are Striped, and do not Strip... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 23 2011, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 23 2011, 07:33 PM) *
Because Tigers are Striped, and do not Strip... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think I recall the female stipping in that one. Or atleast getting her freak on.
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post Jun 23 2011, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Jun 23 2011, 01:26 PM) *
I think I recall the female stipping in that one. Or atleast getting her freak on.


She did get her freak on, that is for sure... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 23 2011, 08:02 PM
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I got a PM from a mysterious stranger (actually my buddy, and fellow freelancer, James Meiers) who's helping me make up for my lack of books:
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Critias was on the right track with SOTA64 pp.73-73. More importantly is Corp Guide, p.202, which has the global top ten.

Top Ten (2072):
1. Knight Errant
2. Lone Star
3. Tyr Security (Scandinavian Union, Baltic)
4. MCT—Parashield, Petrovski Security (runs under different names locally, including the Ertxantxa, the Euskal Herria national police force, and Total Service in Korea. Together P&P "supports" the government Neo-Tokyo Metropolitan Police with integrated support units.)
5. Sakura Security (Yakashima; Japanese empire)
6. Renraku—Najima Securities, SecuritTech International (Matrix)
7. Pueblo Security Enterprises Inc. (FRFZ, NAN)
8. Sternschutz (AGS)
9. Esprit (France)
10. HKB—ScotSecure, Midland Guards (UK)

Others:
Centurion (Europe, Africa)
Eagle Security (North America)
Wolverine
Seguridad Primero (Aztechnology; I think Atlantic Security was incorporated into this, which used to patrol South Florida)
Desert Storm Security (Shiawase)
Minuteman Security (NeoNET; Boston)

Winter Systems used to be the third police force in Manhattan (plus NYPD Inc. and KE), and did merc jobs also. Haven't heard much about them in a while, but I'm sure they're alive and kicking somewhere along the eastern seaboard.

Just known to be in specific cities:

NYPD, Inc.
NOPS (New Orleans)
APF (Atlanta)—may be Lone Star now.
LAPD, Inc.—now Pueblo Sec Force
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post Jun 23 2011, 10:41 PM
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I was wondering where Parashield was from.

Now I'm really worried about buying their line of dart pistols and rifles...

EDIT: And also why they were so good at catching Technomancers if they have that equipment on-hand. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jul 17 2011, 05:11 PM
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Any of my Canadian friends know what happened to the RCMP? I was thinking of use them, or JTF-2, as a corporation, but I'm not sure if either of them have been covered in canon anywhere... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/question.gif)
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post Jul 17 2011, 05:16 PM
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Just out of curiosity any official history showing where some of the security companies come from? Just wondering as real world you have G4S as one of the biggest private employers with a pretty wide range of security stuff going on and it doesnt look that far off A or AA status on its own.
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post Jul 17 2011, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE (Grinchy McScrooge @ Jul 17 2011, 01:11 PM) *
Any of my Canadian friends know what happened to the RCMP? I was thinking of use them, or JTF-2, as a corporation, but I'm not sure if either of them have been covered in canon anywhere... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/question.gif)


Not the RCMP directly, but I do know some of the NAN nations carry the tradition of the Mounties. There is even a dedicated wilderness policing force in Tir Taingire (I think. If not, it's one of those areas) that uses Griffons.

I assume the RCMP still exists in the UCAS, the only place still bearing the Canadian name. Although I also figure they are mostly restricted to rural areas, as many security corporations have the contracts to large cities. Sorry I don't have a canon answer for you, though.
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post Jul 17 2011, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (Grinchy McScrooge @ Jul 17 2011, 12:11 PM) *
Any of my Canadian friends know what happened to the RCMP? I was thinking of use them, or JTF-2, as a corporation, but I'm not sure if either of them have been covered in canon anywhere... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/question.gif)
Lone Star brought in a bunch of Mounties when they got contract for the provinces that use them rather than a Provincial Police. The Ontario Provincial Police were probably bought out as well, but the Quebec Provincial Police becoming Jackbooted Thugs for the "République" du Québec.

JTF-2, being a part of the Canadian Military, are probably another Special Forces unit in the UCAS Armed Forces, likely attached to the Army, but possibly the Marine Corps (I'm sure those two forces would be fighting politically for JTF-2!).
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post Jul 17 2011, 05:59 PM
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Trying to remember the book that had art that showed all the uniforms of security officers, now.

SHadowrun 1st ed, maybe? Or Seattle first? Not sure.

Was really cool to see, but never been reproduced to my knowledge.
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post Jul 17 2011, 08:18 PM
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There was a link to them not that long ago. And oh dear $Deity were they '80s!!!
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post Jul 17 2011, 09:52 PM
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http://bull.dumpshock.com/Seattles%20Finest.jpg from 1st edition Seattle Sourcebook (put online by Bull and CrimsonDude).

For the Canadian states that joined UCAS, Target: Matrix suggest the RCMP or part of it maybe merged with the US Marshals. Marshals working online must use a standard icon that look like a Wild West era marshal, but the Canadian agents seemingly can use a Mountie icon.
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