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[Quix]

In the end of our last campaign the characters decided they all had to disappear. (Something about the Red Samurai knowing their home address, gee can't think of why they'd want to leave :sarcasm:) The party's solution was to blow up their home while the Sams were coming in, the party was to escape through a tunnel that went approx 1km out of the building.
All didn't quite go right. One of the players was killed when the fire elemental who was engulfing him cooked of the 2 Law rockets and 18 rounds of assault cannon amunition. The Samurai on the other hand had a worse day considering the mine field surrounding the building covered 270,000 square meters and once they got to the dorrs there was a 5,000 kg chunck of C-12 waiting to blow. (Yes I know leaving one big chunk of this in the middle of the floor wouldn't be real effective but the rules give abigger blast for a single large chunk then many small ones) The resulting crater was about 70 meters in radius.
Unfortunately the player who owned the building lost it, the equipment inside, and for safety's sake ditched his small company when he left town, so he lost something in the neighborhood of 8million :nuyen:
Anyone else got memorable campaign enders that they would like to share?

[Backgammon]

One of my chars got shot in the head while banging the mafia Don's sexy teasing daughter. 8) :spin:

[danbot37]

Interesting typo.... "Balze of glory" haha

[Austere Emancipa...]

[Backgammon]

I didn't comment on the 5000kg of C-12 because clearly Quix game's are somewhere in the same stratosphere as Sphynx's games. It's a ridiculous amount, but to each his own.

[blakkie]

So did any of the Red Samurai survive via the virtue of having a Trauma Dampener? :grinbig:

[Mimick]

Had a player (mage) jump out of a helicopter after his "nemesis" (apparently he wasn't quite dead enough) without a parachute. At night. His reasoning was that he could always levitate and save himself.

He failed the drain test (was already a box past serious), knocked himself unconscious, and the star dragged his battered, broken body out of the sound a week or two later. Bonehead.

Incidentally, the guy he was trying to kill survived. :D

[blakkie]

[BitBasher]

6000 kg of c12? thats 6 TONS of c12. How does one get 6 tons fo c12, much less actually get it someplace. That's 6 standard one ton pickup trucks full of plastic explosive!!!

Egads!

I don' think blaze of glory is the right term considering you'll likely kill a few hundred innocents at least. I think Day of Infamy is closer to reality. :D

[blakkie]

[Austere Emancipa...]

Such things are somewhat simple to get your hands on in Shadowrun. C-12 has an Availability of "only" 10. And, some time before the Madrid bombing, the Spanish police stopped a truck in Madrid with ~500kg of dynamite (or similar) inside; I think it's probably harder to get your hands on that stuff in RL Spain than it is in SR Whatevermetroplex.

Getting 5,000kg of C-12 in one shot would be pretty damn hard. But slowly accumulating it, over several months at least, would probably not be too hard with the right connections -- and some shadowrunners will have those connections.

This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Mar 28 2004, 10:36 PM

[Digital Heroin]

There's still a matter of storage, and I think said contacts would kind of get a little bit worried about supplying after a tonne or so, at least realisticly. You have to consider that they need to worried about the characters doing something collosally stupid with it (which they did) and it somehow tracking back to them...

[blakkie]

[Steel Machine]

Barring a typo on his part, my own thoughts.

Availibilty rules have always bothered me-they seem incomplete. Sure C12 gas an availibilty of 10, and witht he right rolls and contacts, etc youcan amass an amazing amount-but does any one else think that just maybe you would get flagged somewhere for amassing 4 or so tons?

If I were the guy selling over a hundred kilos that wasn't designated as a years supply for a major Syndicate or for use in a mining operation I would consider not selling to the lunatics looking to buy. After all what do you use 4 and a half tons of C12 to do anyways?

All that said the mental image of 4 and a half tons of C12 detonating is pretty hilarious. I have to wonder how much of the surronding area that'd flatten.

I also imagine afterwards explosives would be real hard to come by, what witht he big Lone Star and FBI crack down. :D

[Edit]Oops. Freud too blame maybe? :D

[blakkie]

[Shanshu Freeman]

[BitBasher]

I want to do some math on this but my books are still packed up, whats the rating on dynamite and whats the rating on C12?

[Steel Machine]

10/48 Hours Street Index of 2, legality 3-j for C12

[Fresno Bob]

If I remember correctly (Too cool for Acronyms!), 1kg C-12 is 12D, with -6 power/meter blast radius.

So a 1 kg chunk goes for about 2 meters.


A 5000 kg chink goes for 10000 meters radius. Thats 10 km in all directions...

Now this is just from memory, so it's probably wrong...

[Herald of Verjig...]

SR explosives scale according to the square root of the mass. √5000 ~= 70 or 71 giving an immediate damage of 840D or 852D. at -6/meter the range is 70 to 71 meters.

[edit] thanks for pointing out the proper degredation rate

[Fresno Bob]

Damn confusing explosives rules! I knew I left something out!

[Moonwolf]

No. Each level of explosives drops 1m/power multiplier(What you multiply the amount of explosives by to get the net power). Also, the amount for working net power is the square root of the total mass. So 5000^0.5 = 70 (rounding down decimal). Therefore, 5000kg of C-12 "only" has a blast radius of 70m.

[BitBasher]

no no, I need JUST the power rating if dynamite, and just the power rating of C12... Im going somewhere with all this =)

[A Clockwork Lime]

So where did he come up with the 2,000,000 nuyen he needed to acquire that much Plastic Compound XII? And what kind of fixer just had that much laying around? Or if he made it himself, how'd he manage to fit in the in-excess of 10,000 days/28 years needed to make it (at base of 48 hours and a TN 8 per unit, which he's not guaranteed to succeed at with every roll even with Chemistry 6)?

[blakkie]