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> Hit the waters with Deadly Waves--watercraft PDF out now!, Also, Arsenal has been updated!
JM Hardy
post Jul 2 2011, 11:50 PM
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So, we’ve had PDF publications covering aircraft (Unfriendly Skies), military vehicles (along with other military gear--MilSpecTech) and drones (This Old Drone). I’d say it’s high time we put some watercraft out there. So we did! Out now for your purchasing and perusing pleasure--Deadly Waves (for sale on the Battleshop and DriveThruRPG)! Let’s go to the rundown:

Run on Water

More than two-thirds of the Earth’s surface is covered by water. That means that two-thirds of the Earth is covered in escape routes, infiltration points, and hiding places that people stuck on land constantly overlook. If you want to know how to use all that blue to your advantage, you need to know the boats that are out there, what they can do, and how your competition is putting them to use.

Deadly Waves collects information about thirty different watercraft, from the fast and agile Wave Cutter to the luxurious, self-maintaining Zeppelinwerke Elite Cruiser to the hulking yet surprisingly quick Maersk-Jorgenson Fast Freighter. Runners can use this book to gain all sorts of options for taking to the water, whether they’re planning a quick jaunt or embarking on a long voyage.

Deadly Waves is for use with Shadowrun, Twentieth Anniversary Edition.



On top of that, we have a new printing of Arsenal--the book with the guns and the armor and the explosions and the hurting--that’s out and about. It has page references updated to Shadowrun, Twentieth Anniversary Edition, a few typo fixes, and a shiny new cover. Check it out at the Battleshop or DrivethruRPG! Note that if you have previously purchased the Arsenal PDF, these changes should be available to you as a free update.

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post Jul 2 2011, 11:58 PM
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There goes the budget.
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post Jul 3 2011, 12:08 AM
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Sold (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I love that Catalyst keeps tweaking, improving, and correcting its products. Together with Catalyst's apparent responsiveness to the online gaming community, this is a big reason that I love SR4 so much.
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post Jul 3 2011, 12:10 AM
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On top of that, we have a new printing of Arsenal--the book with the guns and the armor and the explosions and the hurting--that’s out and about. It has page references updated to Shadowrun, Twentieth Anniversary Edition, a few typo fixes, and a shiny new cover.

So it has no Errata?
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post Jul 3 2011, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 2 2011, 07:10 PM) *
So it has no Errata?


I was thinking that myself.
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post Jul 3 2011, 12:37 AM
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On a very quick glance: Seems okay. I'll reread tomorrow when I'm more awake and less alcoholised, but the art looks good, even the few photomanips, and the stats seem somewhat okay. Nice to have a houseboat included.
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post Jul 3 2011, 12:38 AM
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But drunken ranting and raving is the best ranting and raving! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jul 3 2011, 12:40 AM
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post Jul 3 2011, 12:43 AM
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Fikealox, there's no call for that kind of vicious sarcasm. … Wait, were you serious? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 3 2011, 01:13 AM
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There really, really needs to be a sarcasm font.
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post Jul 3 2011, 01:46 AM
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post Jul 3 2011, 05:05 AM
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post Jul 3 2011, 05:08 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 2 2011, 08:13 PM) *
There really, really needs to be a sarcasm font.

I just assume it's the default.
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post Jul 3 2011, 05:43 AM
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QUOTE (Critias @ Jul 2 2011, 10:08 PM) *
I just assume it's the default.


yeah, but sometimes you need blunt sarcasm.
To really point things out.
With a sledgehammer.
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post Jul 3 2011, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE (Prime Mover @ Jul 3 2011, 07:05 AM) *
Bah It's the jägermeister that always got me in trouble. Tequila has always been kind to me.

Just keep me away from that vodka, especially if mixed up with sprite or 7-up...
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post Jul 3 2011, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE (JM Hardy @ Jul 3 2011, 01:50 AM) *
Note that if you have previously purchased the Arsenal PDF, these changes should be available to you as a free update.

The Battleshop Update Download still gets you the previous version of Arsenal.
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post Jul 3 2011, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 3 2011, 01:10 AM) *
So it has no Errata?

Didn't read the announcement of the new cover on Facebook?
Due to popular demand, here's the cover on the Arsenal reprint. In the reprint, page references are updated to SR4A, and some other typos were corrected, but there have been no real revisions. It's primarily aimed at people who do not have the book yet--those who have it shouldn't feel compelled to buy another copy. Unless they really want to.

OK, first impression of Deadly Waves: The Obsolescent Trait again, yet another book of outdated stuff nobody is ever going to use - oh wait
A larger scooter, a houseboat...that actually looks like stuff an average runner might be able to use. My group is in LA right now, so it might be a purchase.
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post Jul 3 2011, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (Sengir @ Jul 3 2011, 03:48 PM) *
OK, first impression of Deadly Waves: The Obsolescent Trait again, yet another book of outdated stuff nobody is ever going to use - oh wait
A larger scooter, a houseboat...that actually looks like stuff an average runner might be able to use. My group is in LA right now, so it might be a purchase.

Heh, can't even figure out why they bothered to print the Obsolescent Trait in to this one, the Suzuki Watersport is the only vehicle that has it and it's pretty meaningless trait in a water scooter so the Watersport not having it wouldn't be much of a difference. Not that the trait in question stopped me from planning to get many drones from this old drone to my rigger builds

Personally i would really recommend it, there are many nice vehicles that a runner can afford(I'm especially thinking about getting either the houseboat or a sailing yacht as a home to some future character build, or maybe even for some older one thats not quite finished) and the bigger thinks are nice as targets.
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post Jul 3 2011, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Jul 3 2011, 11:34 AM) *
The Battleshop Update Download still gets you the previous version of Arsenal.


Me too.
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post Jul 3 2011, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (Sengir @ Jul 3 2011, 06:48 AM) *
Didn't read the announcement of the new cover on Facebook?
Due to popular demand, here's the cover on the Arsenal reprint. In the reprint, page references are updated to SR4A, and some other typos were corrected, but there have been no real revisions. It's primarily aimed at people who do not have the book yet--those who have it shouldn't feel compelled to buy another copy. Unless they really want to.

OK, first impression of Deadly Waves: The Obsolescent Trait again, yet another book of outdated stuff nobody is ever going to use - oh wait
A larger scooter, a houseboat...that actually looks like stuff an average runner might be able to use. My group is in LA right now, so it might be a purchase.


Then I have to wonder why even bother updating the document if it doesn't include errata. Now work will have to be duplicated, or should we see this as a sign errata isn't on the list of things to do?
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post Jul 3 2011, 02:54 PM
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*A* sign? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Oh well.
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post Jul 3 2011, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Bigity @ Jul 3 2011, 02:45 PM) *
or should we see this as a sign errata isn't on the list of things to do?

(disclaimer, this is not a Nazi comparison)
Somehow I just had to think of the old Titanic issue I came across yesterday, heading: "Horrible Suspicion: Was Hitler an anti-semite?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Signs that CGL does not do errata have long since become superfluous...


As far as the Obsolescent and similar traits are concerned, it not the Trait itself which ticks me off, but the fact that it has often been accompanied by yet another list of subjectively useless vintage equipment. So if there's useful stuff inside, it's a pleasant surprise.
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post Jul 3 2011, 03:21 PM
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I guess all this ancient gear significantly increases the ability of groups to play SR4 'authentically' in the slummy and backwater regions, which would also be the more lawless ones. *shrug*
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post Jul 3 2011, 05:01 PM
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Old gear also doesn't have the RFID Tag Spamming problem in new products that is a major issue for Shadowrunners.

And with a legitimate reason, too.
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Still no cargo capacity rules. <sigh>





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