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> Do you armor for the environment?, it'll be 98 degrees with humidity in the 80's today
CanRay
post Jul 19 2011, 12:04 AM
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Also depends on the person. I'm sure I'd melt in Texas. Hell, I'm almost melting right now, and this would probably be considered a frigid winter in Texas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

On the flipside, I've seen people dressed in so many coats they look like the Michelin Man and still freezing cold in a moderate Northern Ontarian winter.

Winnipeg, well, Siberians complain about the cold here.
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post Jul 19 2011, 12:09 AM
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For me (here in Texas), I sure as hell feel like I'm dying when I armor up, and I've got a fairly nice Joe Rocket jacket, with tons of venting. When I'm moving, it's fine. When I'm stuck at a red light, or in those first (and last) few minutes, when I'm walking to and from my bike, though? Pure murder.
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post Jul 19 2011, 01:53 AM
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Keep in mind that Texas is huge, CanRay. Unless you're having wicked ice storms, your weather isn't colder than a Texas winter.

Figure you're probably joking, but I've known a couple Canadians who happened to be pretty dim, and they weren't aware that snow happened in the southern U.S. Among other things they weren't aware of, but that's a long story.
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:00 AM
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I was joking, yes. I know snow happens in the Southern US, and actually causes death. Not a joking matter.

As for Texas being "Huge", only in comparison to other US States (Other than Alaska). Provinces, now, those are huge. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 19 2011, 03:00 AM) *
As for Texas being "Huge", only in comparison to other US States (Other than Alaska). Provinces, now, those are huge. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Well, yes, but there's actually stuff in Texas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:10 AM
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We got stuff. Rocks, trees, hydroelectric dams, ... ... ... Black flies!
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE (Blitz66 @ Jul 18 2011, 07:09 PM) *
Well, yes, but there's actually stuff in Texas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)


Oh, hahahaha...

Oh man, someone please send Blitz66 on a run into any province, hell, even PEI, I want him to find out how little "stuff" is in a province. I suspect we would have to send out a search party eventually (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)

But hey, when a Texan is missing fucking up things in a big way, there is always Alberta (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:20 AM
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So... We go from one group of overcompensating gun-toting rednecks to a different group of overcompensating gun-toting rednecks? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Oh man, my Ontarian is showing, isn't it?
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:23 AM
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See, if there was anything there, I could find my own way back.
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:42 AM
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Use distinctive looking trees and rocks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 19 2011, 03:42 AM) *
Use distinctive looking trees and rocks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Odd thing with trees and rocks. They look an awful lot like other nearby trees and rocks.
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:49 AM
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Only if you don't know what to look for. Also, a buck knife will fix that problem right quick.

Rocks and trees and trees and rocks and rocks and trees...
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post Jul 19 2011, 03:02 AM
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Did cold weather survival training. Probably better suited to survive and appreciate it than most Americans. But needling Canadians is a favored pastime of mine. My eternal rival - until I inevitably triumph and slay him, naturally - is from Alberta. One of these years he and I are going to go on a training trip to the mountains nearest there. Exchange my fist fighting knowledge for his sword techniques.

But it's still lots and lots of not much up there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Anyway, back in the topic, my players are clever enough to know I reward them for thinking about things their characters would, like comfort. And would penalize them if they pushed too hard without it, naturally. So whatever the game system, they opt for everything they can that keeps them warm, dry, fed, and watered properly. In Shadowrun, that's climate controls.
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post Jul 19 2011, 10:40 PM
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I'd laugh my ass off to hear about a run in South America (Amazonia, whatever) with runners losing toes and whatnot to jungle rot.
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post Jul 19 2011, 11:22 PM
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Trench Foot, nasty thing!
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post Jul 20 2011, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE (Blitz66 @ Jul 17 2011, 02:09 PM) *
Considering the availability of climate-controlled clothing, I don't think bulky clothes are necessarily out of place anywhere. Just say you wouldn't be without your air-conditioned overcoat in this heat. Hey, make it true, even. Winter and rain need less justification, but climate control on all your heavy gear is still a great idea.

I see the Climate Controlled clothing a lot in this Thread. I have been looking through books, and I cannot find this Armor Modification. Where do I find it?
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post Jul 20 2011, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Jul 19 2011, 07:40 PM) *
I'd laugh my ass off to hear about a run in South America (Amazonia, whatever) with runners losing toes and whatnot to jungle rot.


Haha. That will be a laugh. I'm particularily cruel, in that I occasionally call for random body checks (especially in cold or warm weather) to contract diseases (usually a mild cold is what I have in mind, but if they Glitch or crit glitch, it could be a lot worse). So far, no one has contracted anything, but one of these days...
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post Jul 20 2011, 02:11 AM
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So far this year I've camped with the Boy Scouts in 0 degree F and 95 degree F (113 degree F heat index) (-17C / 35C / 45C).

I think in both conditions I would have been unable to properly operate the safety on my gun after 48 hours. In both conditions my brain and body began to shut down after prolonged exposure. I wasn't alone in that.

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In-Book items:
Smart Insulation - Upgrade for Orthoskin. Augmentation 68.
Climate Adaptation quality - Runner's Companion 112
Industrious Line - Arsenal 47 (Winterwear)
Polar Survival Suit - Arsenal 52
Insulation - SR4A pg 327 for cold weather

No clue about that climate control people are talking about.

Of all of the above, the Smart Insulation has the most appeal to me and if climate will be an issue, seems the best solution. Personally, I'd probably invest in the Electroshock as well.
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post Jul 20 2011, 04:33 AM
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QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 19 2011, 09:11 PM) *
So far this year I've camped with the Boy Scouts in 0 degree F and 95 degree F (113 degree F heat index) (-17C / 35C / 45C).

Man, I miss Scouting sometimes.
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post Jul 20 2011, 04:51 AM
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QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 20 2011, 03:11 AM) *
No clue about that climate control people are talking about.

Wow, really? I was sure I saw it SOMEWHERE. Oh well. One way in which Shadowrun tech is falling behind modern tech, slowly but steadily.
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post Jul 20 2011, 05:38 AM
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I remember in House of the Sun Dermal Plating with abs sculpted on is popular in Hawai'i
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post Jul 20 2011, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 20 2011, 04:11 AM) *
No clue about that climate control people are talking about.

I'm pretty sure there's something about it in the Sprawl Survival Guide.
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post Jul 20 2011, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE (Blade @ Jul 20 2011, 02:47 AM) *
I'm pretty sure there's something about it in the Sprawl Survival Guide.

I'm not saying it's not there, but I wasn't able to find it this morning looking there.
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post Jul 20 2011, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (ggodo @ Jul 20 2011, 12:38 AM) *
I remember in House of the Sun Dermal Plating with abs sculpted on is popular in Hawai'i
"He is armour, Brah.", IIRC.

It's a good way of getting around the issue. Especially Orthoskin with Smart Insulation!
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post Jul 20 2011, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (Critias @ Jul 19 2011, 09:33 PM) *
Man, I miss Scouting sometimes.


Only Sometimes. About as much as I miss the "Camping" involved with being deployed to the Deserts of Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Kuwait. I have pretty much had my fill of it over the years.
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