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Tymeaus Jalynsfe...
post Jul 28 2011, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 28 2011, 03:33 PM) *
And it's kinda legally obtainable right?


Costs about $9,000 or so, yes. For Hunting, of Course.
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post Jul 28 2011, 10:00 PM
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of course.
for like.
i don't know . .
what IS ther to hunt in america?
i mean, what is LEFT to hunt?
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post Jul 28 2011, 10:13 PM
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Liberals?
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post Jul 28 2011, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 28 2011, 04:00 PM) *
of course.
for like.
i don't know . .
what IS ther to hunt in america?
i mean, what is LEFT to hunt?


Ahh, Come on...

In Colorado Alone:
Bear
Elk
Moose
Antelope
Deer
Mule Deer
Turkey

Our Ranch in Texas has
Deer
Mule Deer
Sika Deer
Axis Deer
Russian Wild Boar
Javalina
Antelope
Black Bear (Though you better be mauled if you shoot a Bear in Texas, as they are not allowed for hunting, and will get you arrested because there are not that many on the Edwards plateau (15 to 20 known bear in 1995)

Of course, none of these need a Barrett... My 6.5mm Swedish works on all but the Bear
Of course, the Barrett DOES work for Liberals... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 28 2011, 10:28 PM
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And everywhere else.. politicians.
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post Jul 28 2011, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (DWC @ Jul 28 2011, 09:21 PM) *
The same air resistance that saps the round's forward (or vertical in this case) velocity is going to degrade the angular momentum, reducing the spin. The forces are easy to imagine from a fluid mechanics perspective.


A rifle with a 1:10" twist at 800 m/s will spin 2,400 times per second or 144,000 rpm. That's a lot of spin you need to reduce by surface friction alone, quite different from the forward movement that also has to push air aside. Imagine the sort of friction needed to reduce spin by 200 rps or 12,000 rpm EACH second - it would still take 12 seconds to get rid of the spin.

As it starts to fall back to earth and the bullets orientation changes, it now has to push air aside to spin though. But even if we imagine the bullet tip is 1 cm away from the spin axis, this is only 6.3 cm circumference per revolution, so it is only rotating at about 150 m/s, and that's the tip, the rest of the bullet is moving slower. That's fairly slow and it won't be enough air resistance to bleed away 144,000 rpm of spin, especially when you consider that the air resistance drops as the spin slows.

So sure, the forces are easy to imagine, but once you quantify it, it looks very different.

Also, doppler radar measurements of bullets in flight confirm this. Bullets don't lose their spin in flight, period.
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 28 2011, 10:00 PM) *
of course.
for like.
i don't know . .
what IS ther to hunt in america?
i mean, what is LEFT to hunt?

My family's farm in Kansas is one of the best places to hunt whitetail dear in the country. There are also coyotes, bobcats, wild turkey, and quail.

So, apparently my high school physics teacher was wrong, and dismissed the air resistance incorrectly. Good to know. I'm not buying the idea that the spin stops, though. Insufficient force acting on it, as demonstrated by numbers and tests, apparently.
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 28 2011, 05:00 PM) *
of course.
for like.
i don't know . .
what IS ther to hunt in america?
i mean, what is LEFT to hunt?
Scared Canadian Tourists.
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post Jul 29 2011, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 28 2011, 02:00 PM) *
of course.
for like.
i don't know . .
what IS ther to hunt in america?
i mean, what is LEFT to hunt?


The thing to remember about America is that it is *BIG*, as in there is a *lot* of undeveloped spaces where there are still some big critters. I've had work about 8 miles from Seattle, and they mentioned that they had brown bears going after their birdfeeders. A friend went to a tech conference in another state and was warned by the front desk staff before he went jogging at dawn, because that's when the local mountain lions are most active. Not to mention the sort of stuff you find in the Everglades - not hard to find stories of 7 to 10 foot alligators (that's about three meters, BTW) that wander into populated areas in Florida. The only thing I would consider using a Barrett on though would be a bull moose - those things are bigger then my car. I think those are mostly Alaska, though.

Seriously, those guns are for killing engine blocks.


QUOTE (Traul @ Jul 28 2011, 02:13 PM) *
Liberals?


Hey, now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 29 2011, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Jul 28 2011, 10:10 PM) *
The thing to remember about America is that it is *BIG*

I have a few friends from Europe that upon visiting the US, they are flabbergasted at driving for days and days and still not running out of USA to travel.

Hell, a couple of our states you can drive 800 miles in a straight line and not leave the state.

Tons of wildlife in them thar hills & woods. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



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post Jul 29 2011, 04:36 AM
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QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Jul 29 2011, 03:10 AM) *

Now? Yes. Good idea. Since you suggest it, now is the best time for liberal-hunting.
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 29 2011, 02:15 AM) *
Scared Canadian Tourists.

"Oh my $deity! I just shot you! Are you alright?"
"Oh, I'm sorry, I completely stepped into your line of fire there, my bad. You have my apologies. Would you like me to refund the bullet? I'm truly sorry."
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (Mardrax @ Jul 29 2011, 06:57 AM) *
"Oh my $deity! I just shot you! Are you alright?"
"Oh, I'm sorry, I completely stepped into your line of fire there, my bad. You have my apologies. Would you like me to refund the bullet? I'm truly sorry."


Heh... Awesome... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 29 2011, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (Mardrax @ Jul 29 2011, 08:57 AM) *
"Oh my $deity! I just shot you! Are you alright?"
"Oh, I'm sorry, I completely stepped into your line of fire there, my bad. You have my apologies. Would you like me to refund the bullet? I'm truly sorry."


Wouldn't you also have to say that in French immediately afterwards? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 29 2011, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Jul 28 2011, 10:10 PM) *
The thing to remember about America is that it is *BIG*
And if you think the USA is big and spread out, try Canada and prepare to freak the hell out.

I know I did when I woke up in the Prairies.
QUOTE (Dreadlord @ Jul 29 2011, 11:10 AM) *
Wouldn't you also have to say that in French immediately afterwards? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Only if it's written.
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post Jul 29 2011, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (Blitz66 @ Jul 28 2011, 08:36 PM) *
Now? Yes. Good idea. Since you suggest it, now is the best time for liberal-hunting.



Sorry, I wasn't clear. When I said "Hey now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) " I was trying to say that I know we're all friends here, but this is not the place to start flamewars about American politics. Maybe we could get back to talking about Shadowrun, huh?
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post Jul 29 2011, 10:53 PM
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Considering that Liberal is an actual political party in Canada, I was wondering if we were going to get a major hunting tourism boom up here again.

After they cancelled the spring bear hunts which cut the knees off a lot of Northern Communities, and increased the bear populations to where they started to be a problem to humans and the other wildlife in the area... Well, something new would be a good option.
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post Jul 30 2011, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 28 2011, 04:00 PM) *
of course.
for like.
i don't know . .
what IS ther to hunt in america?
i mean, what is LEFT to hunt?

http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/hunting.asp

In Nebraska, the only barrier to hunting is getting into the "overbooked the second they're announced" Hunter Safety courses. On the good side for us, the BSA summer camp out here offers Hunter Safety to all boys earning their Rifle Shooting or Shotgun Shooting merit badges, so my son is now good to go and a couple of the leaders who hunt have offered to take him with them this season.

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On gravity: The deceleration force at any given height is equal to the acceleration force at any the same height or, in Portal Physics. Speedy thing goes up, Speedy thing goes down.

Air resistance and fluid mechanics are still serious barriers to velocity. Gravity is not.
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post Jul 30 2011, 02:35 PM
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In Canada, there is quite a bit of hunting that goes on. (We're a country of rocks and trees after all.).

Our obstacle is the firearms laws currently on the books which makes it really frightening to attempt to buy or inherit a firearm unless you got in when the laws went into place and you were able to get in through the Grandfather Clauses... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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