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[CanRay]

(although vampires tend to have good lawyers)

Professional courtesy after all.

[Dr.Rockso]

Well, it is better then Montreal, at least...

Them's fighting words, tabarnac (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[CanRay]

It's better than Quebec City, at least... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Dr.Rockso]

It's better than Quebec City, at least... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Thats up there with 'Never deal with a dragon' in things that are obvious (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[HunterHerne]

Thats up there with 'Never deal with a dragon' in things that are obvious (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Wouldn't know, never been to Quebec City. I have been t the other two. They are looking nicer when compared to Halifax...

[Dr.Rockso]

Wouldn't know, never been to Quebec City. I have been t the other two. They are looking nicer when compared to Halifax...

Go to Toronto if you want decent streets and large sidewalks. Go to Montreal if you want to have a good time

[CanRay]

Wouldn't know, never been to Quebec City. I have been t the other two. They are looking nicer when compared to Halifax...

I used to worry about my father being in Hell.

Then realized, he would just go up to the Devil and say, "Do your worst, I've been in a Quebec City ER with my OHIP card."

[Dr.Rockso]

I used to worry about my father being in Hell.

Then realized, he would just go up to the Devil and say, "Do your worst, I've been in a Quebec City ER with my OHIP card."

It'd be funny if it weren't so true

[HunterHerne]

Go to Toronto if you want decent streets and large sidewalks. Go to Montreal if you want to have a good time

So I've heard. But, I'm not the kind of person who goes out for a good time. And when I do, I sadly find myself making notes in my head of vcarious things, like general cultural trends, how tight security seems to be, where the exits are, architecture, and just random things no one really cares about. (I don't drink or party, so that may be a part of my reluctance to accept Montreal as a good spot.)

[Dr.Rockso]

So I've heard. But, I'm not the kind of person who goes out for a good time. And when I do, I sadly find myself making notes in my head of vcarious things, like general cultural trends, how tight security seems to be, where the exits are, architecture, and just random things no one really cares about. (I don't drink or party, so that may be a part of my reluctance to accept Montreal as a good spot.)

Not even necessarily drinking or partying. We got great food, a pretty sweet mountain and more festivals than we can shake a stick at. Our movie festival has been pretty sweet this year, for instance.

[Stahlseele]

Professional courtesy after all.

more likely is the chance of kinship between them <.<

[pbangarth]

Go to Toronto if you want decent streets and large sidewalks. Go to Montreal if you want to have a good time

Yes, follow this advice closely. I want the good stuff here never to get crowded.

[Hagga]

Azania's not so bad as a setting (there's worse parts in the UCAS, not to mention Europe). Besides, I'm kind of tired of the authors in the CGL era painting every African location as a variation of a recent African Hellhole. All race issues/allegations aside, that's just wasting a setting with a lot of potential. You could, for instance, do interesting things with Benin - if you have played Empire: Total War with an Amazon edition gam, you should have a good idea. Or maybe Ethiopia, which has the added bonus of being a hotbed of bizarre iterations of Judaism and Christianity and potential magical hotspots.

You could do quite a lot of things with Africa in Shadowrun. Instead, the entire continent is declared "here be [the correct term is 'people of colour', hermit]s!'. And that's a shame.

Most places in the Shadowrun world fill a purpose - Africa just happens to be the low-civilization, mixed tech jungle hellhole. Like Australia is the mana-wasteland (Although a place with earth scorched bare and grey, burnt skies with arcane winds bearing curses and roving spirits, walled enclaves of corporate rebels and the like would be awesome in Africa).

Trying to fix that. I had a few ideas, but got involved with things a bit late. Okay, more than a bit late, but Rob didn't listen to me about the critters back in the initial 4E playtests anyway, and it was his decision-making that deballed the Infected from the word "Go."

But I'm working on it. Slowly, since that's how I work and I've got a lot of things to undo, but I am working on it.

I think the entire runners companion book, much as I like it, needs that.

[hermit]

Most places in the Shadowrun world fill a purpose - Africa just happens to be the low-civilization, mixed tech jungle hellhole. Like Australia is the mana-wasteland (Although a place with earth scorched bare and grey, burnt skies with arcane winds bearing curses and roving spirits, walled enclaves of corporate rebels and the like would be awesome in Africa).

Yeah. Extremly uninspired. Started in Synner's era, and went far, far downhill from there. The worst part (so far) is Hill's bit on Somalia, but Almanac is a close second.

[Sengir]

Indeed... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
After all, it is not "DinnerRun" it is "Shadowrun". But then, we don't play Infected at our tables, so it is not really that big of a worry for us.

Well, if a character has negative qualities, the player should expect these disadvantages to come up in a game...


But how this is played out is besides the point, my point was that in-universe, a vampire will have a hard time getting his recommended calorie intake and thus is quite likely to look malnourished.

[PoliteMan]

Most places in the Shadowrun world fill a purpose - Africa just happens to be the low-civilization, mixed tech jungle hellhole. Like Australia is the mana-wasteland (Although a place with earth scorched bare and grey, burnt skies with arcane winds bearing curses and roving spirits, walled enclaves of corporate rebels and the like would be awesome in Africa).

I would like to complain about this, because I think it's an absolute waste of potentially great cities/cultures for runs. However, when I look at India, Central Asia, or South America (outside of Amazonia), Africa actually seems to come out pretty good. And that's not counting the regions like China or the Middle East where the setting is explained and then basically undeveloped.

Except that you can easily factor the cost of the nutritionally required "Meat/Blood" into your lifestyle for a +30% Lifestyle Increase (Oprional Rule for easy bookkeeping). Done and no further worries about nutrition. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

Then why are you playing a ghoul? Yes, there's discrimination to explore but there's a ton of alternatives if you want to explore that.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

But how this is played out is besides the point, my point was that in-universe, a vampire will have a hard time getting his recommended calorie intake and thus is quite likely to look malnourished.

I don't actually see that. Since all that is necessary "In Universe" is to increase your Lifestyle costs, it does not seem all that difficult to acquire the food you need as a Vampire. *Shrug*

No worries though... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Then why are you playing a ghoul? Yes, there's discrimination to explore but there's a ton of alternatives if you want to explore that.

Easy... I'm Not... My point is that Nutrition is not your worry as an Infected. Discrimination/Being Hunted is the major issue, from what I can see, but your nutrition can easily be handled.

[Ascalaphus]

If vampires/ghouls can survive the discrimination and lay hands on money, the diet isn't the big problem. If there's a buyer, someone (desperate) will sell.

[Dreadlord]

If vampires/ghouls can survive the discrimination and lay hands on money, the diet isn't the big problem. If there's a buyer, someone (desperate) will sell.

True. And for someone desperate, giving up Essence to a vampire for money might be seen as better than selling a kidney to organleggers. No surgery, scarring, etc.

[Mardrax]

True. And for someone desperate, giving up Essence to a vampire for money might be seen as better than selling a kidney to organleggers. No surgery, scarring, etc.

It's not so much about Essence, they don't need all that much unless they burn through it. It's about blood.

[HunterHerne]

It's not so much about Essence, they don't need all that much unless they burn through it. It's about blood.

This is true. The vamps don't need to eat essance as often as blood, and blood is naturally renewable.

[Stahlseele]

Do vampires still bleed when cut?
If so, can they drink their own blood?

[HunterHerne]

Do vampires still bleed when cut?
If so, can they drink their own blood?

Yes.
...yes... tentatively.

It's my opinion they can eat their own blood, but it wouldn't exactly be equal. After all, that blood goes to more then replenishing blood.

[Stahlseele]

Of course they would not get any essence out of it . .
But basic sustenance would be something else entirely . .
And seeing how they have regeneration, even massive blood loss does not really matter, because the blood is regenerated . .
So, basically, they can have a full tummy all the time, but need to go out and get essence from other beings . .
Maybe from another vampire?