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post Aug 15 2011, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (Fatum @ Aug 15 2011, 09:01 AM) *
So, in Germany, killing someone defending yourself is not murder?
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Aug 15 2011, 09:07 AM) *
by law, technically, no, it's not. that's legalese for you . .
Yes, be good little victims and let the nice criminals break into your home, steal your stuff, rape your family, and then kill you themselves. Because the Police are there to protect you, so you don't have any reason, or right, to protect you and yours.

*Sighs* Same in Canada.

OK, edging on politics, I know, but I really, really, REALLY couldn't keep quiet.
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post Aug 15 2011, 03:15 PM
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Oh no, we are SO allowed to hurt anybody coming into our home whom we did not invite . .
We just have to prove it. Technically, even cops are not allowed in without a search varrant (safe for the damn stupid imminent danger clause).
Yes, we can hurt even cops who try to come in, if we do not want them in there.
If i tell a copper without any search warrant no, and he puts his foot into my door, i can crush that foot with my door to get him out and technically it'S completely okay by law . .
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post Aug 15 2011, 03:19 PM
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Back to topic, please.
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post Aug 15 2011, 03:38 PM
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OK, my bad, I'll shut up. Still had to say it.

Anyhow, we got some of the JackPointers in the PDF 10 JackPointers, and we got some here. Think we'll see the rest?
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post Aug 15 2011, 03:41 PM
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It's a possibility.
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post Aug 15 2011, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (Medicineman @ Aug 15 2011, 12:36 AM) *
State of the Art
These are (useless, funkilling ) Rules for degradation of Programs and Equipment
Something we call Hartwurst in Germany if used excessively

He who won't dance with Hartwurst
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Hartwurst?
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post Aug 15 2011, 04:49 PM
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Funny how it is always the sociopathic monster that get paraded, when most crimes are crimes of desperation.
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post Aug 15 2011, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 15 2011, 06:34 PM) *
Hartwurst?

It's complicated:
http://www.wiki-aventurica.de/wiki/Hartwur...enspieltheorie)
basically, germany only role playing slang . .
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post Aug 15 2011, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 15 2011, 12:38 PM) *
OK, my bad, I'll shut up. Still had to say it.

Anyhow, we got some of the JackPointers in the PDF 10 JackPointers, and we got some here. Think we'll see the rest?


Which of the 10 jackpointers is in the book?
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post Aug 15 2011, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Aug 15 2011, 03:27 PM) *
Which of the 10 jackpointers is in the book?

Baka Dabura, Ecotope, Fianchetto, Kay St. Irregular, Lei Kung, Lyran, Man-of-Many-Names, Orbital DK, Riser, and Turbo Bunny are in 10 Jackpointers, and Haze, Ma'Fan, Puck, Rigger X, Mika, Sticks, Thorn, Hannibelle and Winterhawk are in Street Legends (I may have missed one or two that I'm not 100% sure are Jackpointers), and to include another, we had Kane in Vice.
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post Aug 15 2011, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Aug 15 2011, 03:15 PM) *
We just have to prove it.

Just as the last tidbit on this matter: In dubio pro reo...

@TJ: "Hartwurst" means extremely detailed descriptions by the GM which unfortunately leave little or no room for the players to actually imagine or do something. For example, the players can't act out what they do when setting up a camp for the night, the GM tells them they are eating cured sausage (the eponymous Hartwurst) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Aug 15 2011, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (Sengir @ Aug 15 2011, 11:49 AM) *
Just as the last tidbit on this matter: In dubio pro reo...

@TJ: "Hartwurst" means extremely detailed descriptions by the GM which unfortunately leave little or no room for the players to actually imagine or do something. For example, the players can't act out what they do when setting up a camp for the night, the GM tells them they are eating cured sausage (the eponymous Hartwurst) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Ahhh... Thanks...
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post Aug 15 2011, 07:53 PM
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Repeat after me: He. Is. No. Pacifist.

So you're saying he just thinks he is? Because he refers to himself as such repeatedly. But then we can probably agree, though we won't on author's intent.

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Anyhow, we got some of the JackPointers in the PDF 10 JackPointers, and we got some here. Think we'll see the rest?

Between 10 Jackpointers and Street Legends, apart from Kane and Jack (who really, really should have been in the Legends), who is missing? Netcat? Hackbaby?

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we had Kane in Vice.

Not with stats, IIRC?
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post Aug 15 2011, 08:12 PM
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No stats, and the info wasn't what you'd call concise. Even Kane thought they were rather lacking.

Of course, they could publish all that he did (A whole trilogy of books in and of itself, likely), and he'd still go, "But they missed..." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Aug 15 2011, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Aug 15 2011, 04:53 PM) *
So you're saying he just thinks he is? Because he refers to himself as such repeatedly. But then we can probably agree, though we won't on author's intent.


Between 10 Jackpointers and Street Legends, apart from Kane and Jack (who really, really should have been in the Legends), who is missing? Netcat? Hackbaby?


Not with stats, IIRC?


Well, as far as game stats, there aren't any in 10 Jackpointers, either. But they do have some relevant file stats. You are right about it being kind of lacking on Kane, though.
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post Aug 15 2011, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Aug 15 2011, 11:53 PM) *
Between 10 Jackpointers and Street Legends, apart from Kane and Jack (who really, really should have been in the Legends), who is missing? Netcat? Hackbaby?
Nobody has a file on Jack cause he's Jack.
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post Aug 15 2011, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (Fatum @ Aug 15 2011, 11:59 PM) *
Nobody has a file on Jack cause he's Jack.

Samantha Villiers used to have a short file on Fastjack, which featured in Target: Matrix. He didn't even seem to take offense (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Aug 15 2011, 10:11 PM
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Because if that's all somebody with the name VILLIERS can find out, then that's the MAXIMUM ANYBODY can find out . .
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post Aug 16 2011, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (Nath @ Aug 15 2011, 05:04 PM) *
Samantha Villiers used to have a short file on Fastjack, which featured in Target: Matrix. He didn't even seem to take offense (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
That's because that file was pointed out, became a target, then became a memory.
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Aug 15 2011, 12:06 PM) *
It's complicated:
http://www.wiki-aventurica.de/wiki/Hartwur...enspieltheorie)
basically, germany only role playing slang . .


That Wiki is so lame and soooo wrong
Hartwurst means that you have to write down every single peace of equipment,(down to the last Bullet, how many Cigarettes you have in your pack ,how much water is left in what kind of Bottle etc) that you also have to be exact in writing off your meals, Ammo, how much water you drank,etc.
Its called Hartwurst because you had to write down how many slices of Your Sausage(Hartwurst or normal Wurst) or Bread were used that evening , (hope You get the Meaning (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )
Its a waste of Time (ImO) if you spent too much time with logistics instead of Roleplaying.

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post Aug 16 2011, 02:28 PM
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Why not use this definition:

QUOTE (Sengir @ Aug 15 2011, 08:49 PM) *
@TJ: "Hartwurst" means extremely detailed descriptions by the GM which unfortunately leave little or no room for the players to actually imagine or do something. For example, the players can't act out what they do when setting up a camp for the night, the GM tells them they are eating cured sausage (the eponymous Hartwurst) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Otherwise

QUOTE (Medicineman @ Aug 16 2011, 04:17 PM) *
Its a waste of Time
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:36 PM
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Logistics have a place in RPGs (I was the "accountant" for my Star Wars Privateer campaign), but even that is anal, man.
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:52 PM
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Hartwurst is not the
@TJ: "Hartwurst" means extremely detailed descriptions by the GM which unfortunately leave little or no room for the players to actually imagine or do something. For example, the players can't act out what they do when setting up a camp for the night, the GM tells them they are eating cured sausage (the eponymous Hartwurst)
Hartwurst is the extensive Logistic that is used and when it takes more time to write down or off every little peace of equipment instead of using this time to Roleplay and have Fun(maybe its a "German Problem" ? I don't know)

Logistics are important and I don't mind using it at all, but when its overapplied(is that the right Word ?) then it turns into Hartwurst(at least that is the Hartwurst I know of and the expression that I use)
....aren't we a little Offtopic ?


with a slightly Offtopic Dance
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 16 2011, 11:36 AM) *
Logistics have a place in RPGs (I was the "accountant" for my Star Wars Privateer campaign), but even that is anal, man.


Unless you are playing a mad max-like campaign where every piece of gear counts.
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE (Medicineman @ Aug 16 2011, 04:52 PM) *
Hartwurst is not the


If you say so. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif)

Case closed, back to topic please.
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