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[Slithery D]

So how many inconsistencies can we find in Street Legends vs. previous published background on these characters? I noticed two big ones on Kia. In SL he's a he and a former corp exec who is presumably a college grad. Unfortunately, in Attitudes a piece authored by Kia describes himself as a high school dropout, and one of the inset boxes has a Johnson addressing him as "Ms. Kia."

Oops.

[Medicineman]

Unless you are playing a mad max-like campaign where every piece of gear counts.

Or in Hollow Earth where you explore the Inner Earth,or in a Fantasy Campaign trying to cross a Desert
but that is something different ! Here lack of equipment is/can become part of the Plot. That can never be a Hartwurst.
its only Hartwurst if its not really necessary and a "funkiller"

with the last offtopic Dance
Medicineman

[Grinder]

with the last offtopic Dance

You better do. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[Grinder]

So how many inconsistencies can we find in Street Legends vs. previous published background on these characters? I noticed two big ones on Kia. In SL he's a he and a former corp exec who is presumably a college grad. Unfortunately, in Attitudes a piece authored by Kia describes himself as a high school dropout, and one of the inset boxes has a Johnson addressing him as "Ms. Kia."

Oops.

Do you have a page reference for that?

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

So how many inconsistencies can we find in Street Legends vs. previous published background on these characters? I noticed two big ones on Kia. In SL he's a he and a former corp exec who is presumably a college grad. Unfortunately, in Attitudes a piece authored by Kia describes himself as a high school dropout, and one of the inset boxes has a Johnson addressing him as "Ms. Kia."

Oops.

No Ooops. Obviously two different people. After all, I am sure there are a lot of 'Runners who use street names modeled after Vehicle Manufacturing Companies.

[Slithery D]

No Ooops. Obviously two different people. After all, I am sure there are a lot of 'Runners who use street names modeled after Vehicle Manufacturing Companies.

...on Jackpoint.

[Slithery D]

Do you have a page reference for that?

Attitude Page 34: "I skipped out on high school, but I love watching those old flatvids about the high school jocks." Attitude Page 30: "Ms. Kia:"

[EKBT81]

No Ooops. Obviously two different people. After all, I am sure there are a lot of 'Runners who use street names modeled after Vehicle Manufacturing Companies.

I'm not familiar with the piece of text in question. But even if they were the same guy, I'd take anything a shadowrunner says about his own past with a grain of salt. It's not like they don't have any motivation to lie about their past or misdirect others.

The Ms Kia might be explained with a Mask spell or a misleading matrix persona.

[EKBT81]

-double post-

[Slithery D]

The Ms Kia might be explained with a Mask spell or a misleading matrix persona.

There is a mention that in SL that Kia prefers matrix meets, and that IS consistent with the text boxes in Attitude.

[CanRay]

I'm not sure how common Kia is as a name. But Suzuki is apparently fairly common: A famous ecologically minded scientist in Canada is named Dr. David Suzuki, CC, OBC, Ph.D., and I don't think he has anything to do with Suzuki Kabushiki-Kaisha.

[hobgoblin]

I'm not sure how common Kia is as a name. But Suzuki is apparently fairly common: A famous ecologically minded scientist in Canada is named Dr. David Suzuki, CC, OBC, Ph.D., and I don't think he has anything to do with Suzuki Kabushiki-Kaisha.

Not sure if Kia as a company is named after its founder, in the way Suzuki or Ford is.

edit: a quick wiki check indicates it being a TLA...

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Kia_Motors

[EKBT81]

I'm not sure how common Kia is as a name. But Suzuki is apparently fairly common: A famous ecologically minded scientist in Canada is named Dr. David Suzuki, CC, OBC, Ph.D., and I don't think he has anything to do with Suzuki Kabushiki-Kaisha.

The car company's name doesn't seem to derive from a family. From their webpage:

The word “Kia” is derived from the Chinese characters Ki, meaning to “arise or come up out of” and a, referring to Asia. So when put together, Kia means to “arise or come up out of Asia”

However, there are people with "Kia" as a first name, so it may very well have nothing at all to do with the car manufacturer.

[Medicineman]

....oO(and I thought Kia means Killed in Action....,Boy was I wrong)

with a Thoughtfull Dance
Medicineman

[Bull]

I can't tell you about the High School drop-out thing (But always take anything a runner says in character with a grain of salt), but Kia is listed as a Human Male in the freelancer Jackpointer database. So the "Ms. Johnson" thing is either a different Kia (Unlikely, though it *is* a No-Prize explanation for it), Kia adopting a famel persona for his online meet (THe most likely explanation), or simply a typo that got missed somewhere along the line (Easy enough, especially since till that point Kia hadn't gotten written up).

BTW, someone was asking how many Jackpointers there were... My current count is 61 Jackpointers. There are also at least 38 unique Helix (German version of Jackpoint) members (Plus some Jackpoint members as well), though the list we have is outdated, so they may have added more since. Not sure if Helix has a "closed" membership like Jackpoint, or is more open like Shadowland was, so has more rotating membership.

Bull

[Mäx]

Not sure if Helix has a "closed" membership like Jackpoint, or is more open like Shadowland was, so has more rotating membership.

According to it's Target MAtrix Write up, Helix is an open datahaven like the shadowland was, second biggest after Denver Nexus.

[Patrick Goodman]

So how many inconsistencies can we find in Street Legends vs. previous published background on these characters?Oops.

If you find any for Martin de Vries, let me know so I can make sure not to make that mistake again in future....

[Bull]

According to it's Target MAtrix Write up, Helix is an open datahaven like the shadowland was, second biggest after Denver Nexus.

Right. But that was almost 15 years ago, in game time. (ANd hell, 10+ real time).

According to the info I have, it was prominently used in the SOX write up. I believe it's been used in the newer German books as well. Not being able to read German, I'm SOL when it comes to first hand knowledge of the German Line, unfortunately. So I'm not sure if the Helix was re-purposed to be more of a closed system like Jackpoint with the SR4 revamp or not.

I imagine it still is a normal style Data Haven, but one of the Germans here can probably fill us in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Bull

[Bull]

If you find any for Martin de Vries, let me know so I can make sure not to make that mistake again in future....

Well, Martin is a pretty pretty princess, he's said to wear a pink tu-tu most of the time, and he sparkles in the sun. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Oh, and he rides his vampiric war-moose everywhere he goes.

Bull

[Patrick Goodman]

Dammit. I knew I forgot something....

[CanRay]

....oO(and I thought Kia means Killed in Action....,Boy was I wrong)

with a Thoughtfull Dance
Medicineman

That's KIA. Note the capitalization.

[HunterHerne]

That's KIA. Note the capitalization.

Meh. I considered that the character might have been named Kia based on the same interpretation.

[Sengir]

I imagine it still is a normal style Data Haven, but one of the Germans here can probably fill us in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

One of the Germans reporting for duty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The login page of SOX said this was posted in the new VIP section in the Helix, because of too many new posters flooding the open network. Nice sideswipe through the fourth wall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[CanRay]

I was wondering why the fourth wall had paint scrapings and a dent in it...

[Bull]

One of the Germans reporting for duty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The login page of SOX said this was posted in the new VIP section in the Helix, because of too many new posters flooding the open network. Nice sideswipe through the fourth wall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Cool. SOX was a what, several years ago or more now? Have they continued to use a mostly closed pool of posters for the Helix since then, ala Jackpoint?

Thanks for the reply! We have a couple German Freelancers in the CGL Discussion Pool (AAS, and at least one other I think). I should pester them about updating the German information. Though in AAS' case, not sure I want to distract him from doing artwork for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Bull