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post Aug 5 2011, 07:22 AM
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Prior editions of SR have mentioned Smartball systems for sporting uses like Baseball.

So there's that.




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post Aug 5 2011, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Aug 5 2011, 08:22 AM) *
Prior editions of SR have mentioned Smartball systems for sporting uses like Baseball.

So there's that.

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Most likely why I have always found it logical. A ballistic calculation program is a ballistic calculation program regardless of delivery system.
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post Aug 5 2011, 11:25 AM
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Most likely why I have always found it logical. A ballistic calculation program is a ballistic calculation program regardless of delivery system.

Ähm, no it is not.
Or does a ball always leave your hand at a given velocity? And how do you throw a ball without moving?
Sorry, but how could a smartlink help you throw something?
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post Aug 5 2011, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE (Irion @ Aug 5 2011, 12:25 PM) *
Ähm, no it is not.
Or does a ball always leave your hand at a given velocity? And how do you throw a ball without moving?
Sorry, but how could a smartlink help you throw something?


The smartlink would calculate the trajectory of your limb, how much muscle power is applied to the throw and show an aprixmate hit location. You could most likely also have it give you a suggested "path" for your projectile and then it is up to you to throw the projectile within the suggested attack path.

This would of course fluctuate for the entire throwing motion but would not be any more different than say a catapult (which is a larger version of a slingshot).

You can also have a smartlink on grenade launchers which lob grenades overhead, very much like a overhead throw.

The smartlink regardless of delivery system would not be perfect, it would give an indication of an aproximate hit location but it would not make you into a superhero marksman.

So it's hardly gamebreaking in any way.
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post Aug 5 2011, 03:48 PM
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Athletes use similar systems today, using MoCap, to try and improve their throws and predict their movements using pre-recorded data of their abilities.

Having something that ties into your body and does so constantly, and can adjust itself for fatigue, injuries, and so on... Well, just a step up to what we use today.

And didn't they have that technology in order to have StatSofts to make legendary and legacy players, or am I remembering a novel as opposed to a sourcebook?
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post Aug 5 2011, 05:45 PM
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It would take an awful lot of training to use it effectively. A smartgun system, I believe, shows where the barrel is pointing and where it ought to be pointing, and lets you reconcile the two. Easy enough. A throw is a full body motion, and telling a person how to adjust a throw is more likely to screw them up than help their accuracy. I wouldn't be opposed to a "smartball" system designed for thrown projectiles, but I don't think it would do much good unless it's connected to a skillwire system.

EDIT: Motion capture systems are for telling you how to train, not how to make each specific motion. I'm trying to think of how a "smartball" system would work, and the only way I can see it working is if it took over your muscles and made the throw for you.
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post Aug 5 2011, 08:20 PM
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So, a combination of Skillwires or Move-By-Wire and a Smartgun Dedicated-Physics SPU?
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post Aug 5 2011, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 5 2011, 08:20 PM) *
So, a combination of Skillwires or Move-By-Wire and a Smartgun Dedicated-Physics SPU?

That's what I'm coming up with, yes. I'm trying as hard as I can to stretch the rationale so that it doesn't require something like that, but I've got nothing.
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post Aug 5 2011, 08:26 PM
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Read the novel "Wolf and Raven" for how something like that could work. In professional baseball. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 5 2011, 08:32 PM
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Haven't read any of the Shadowrun novels. The Move-By-Wire system and the Smartgun Physics SPU thing we've been talking about, though, would be AWESOME for this purpose. I'm only coming up short trying to figure out a plausible way to make it work without anything skillwire related.
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post Aug 5 2011, 08:41 PM
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AR? Maybe it overlays an optimal path with an AR ghost? "Throw like this"?
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post Aug 5 2011, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE (Blitz66 @ Aug 5 2011, 04:32 PM) *
Haven't read any of the Shadowrun novels. The Move-By-Wire system and the Smartgun Physics SPU thing we've been talking about, though, would be AWESOME for this purpose. I'm only coming up short trying to figure out a plausible way to make it work without anything skillwire related.


Move by Wire includes skillwire @ rating*2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 5 2011, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (Fyndhal @ Aug 5 2011, 08:46 PM) *
Move by Wire includes skillwire @ rating*2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

That's what I'm saying. Not without skillwires. MBW would be perfect. It only got included because I couldn't figure out how to do it with just a "smartgun" system, even on the weakest logic.

Xahn, trying to duplicate an AR shadow's motion exactly, down to the smallest detail, would still require wires.
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post Aug 5 2011, 09:35 PM
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As to the Shield... say:

Boomerang with Personalized Grip (for when holding it in your hand), Melee Hardening, with a Ballistic Shield as an "Underbarrel Weapon".

Fairly low-tech but it'll get the job done (provided GM approval of course).
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post Aug 5 2011, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 4 2011, 06:08 PM) *
Truth, Justice, Universal Firearms Ownership, and Union Busting?

So he's working for Ares?


HAHAHAHAHAH! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)
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post Aug 5 2011, 11:54 PM
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