The Captain, No, not really, but close enough... |
The Captain, No, not really, but close enough... |
Aug 5 2011, 07:22 AM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Prior editions of SR have mentioned Smartball systems for sporting uses like Baseball.
So there's that. -k |
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Aug 5 2011, 11:03 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
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Aug 5 2011, 11:25 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: 27-July 10 Member No.: 18,860 |
QUOTE Most likely why I have always found it logical. A ballistic calculation program is a ballistic calculation program regardless of delivery system. Ähm, no it is not. Or does a ball always leave your hand at a given velocity? And how do you throw a ball without moving? Sorry, but how could a smartlink help you throw something? |
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Aug 5 2011, 12:04 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
Ähm, no it is not. Or does a ball always leave your hand at a given velocity? And how do you throw a ball without moving? Sorry, but how could a smartlink help you throw something? The smartlink would calculate the trajectory of your limb, how much muscle power is applied to the throw and show an aprixmate hit location. You could most likely also have it give you a suggested "path" for your projectile and then it is up to you to throw the projectile within the suggested attack path. This would of course fluctuate for the entire throwing motion but would not be any more different than say a catapult (which is a larger version of a slingshot). You can also have a smartlink on grenade launchers which lob grenades overhead, very much like a overhead throw. The smartlink regardless of delivery system would not be perfect, it would give an indication of an aproximate hit location but it would not make you into a superhero marksman. So it's hardly gamebreaking in any way. |
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Aug 5 2011, 03:48 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Athletes use similar systems today, using MoCap, to try and improve their throws and predict their movements using pre-recorded data of their abilities.
Having something that ties into your body and does so constantly, and can adjust itself for fatigue, injuries, and so on... Well, just a step up to what we use today. And didn't they have that technology in order to have StatSofts to make legendary and legacy players, or am I remembering a novel as opposed to a sourcebook? |
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Aug 5 2011, 05:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 2-July 11 Member No.: 32,605 |
It would take an awful lot of training to use it effectively. A smartgun system, I believe, shows where the barrel is pointing and where it ought to be pointing, and lets you reconcile the two. Easy enough. A throw is a full body motion, and telling a person how to adjust a throw is more likely to screw them up than help their accuracy. I wouldn't be opposed to a "smartball" system designed for thrown projectiles, but I don't think it would do much good unless it's connected to a skillwire system.
EDIT: Motion capture systems are for telling you how to train, not how to make each specific motion. I'm trying to think of how a "smartball" system would work, and the only way I can see it working is if it took over your muscles and made the throw for you. |
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Aug 5 2011, 08:20 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
So, a combination of Skillwires or Move-By-Wire and a Smartgun Dedicated-Physics SPU?
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Aug 5 2011, 08:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 2-July 11 Member No.: 32,605 |
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Aug 5 2011, 08:26 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Read the novel "Wolf and Raven" for how something like that could work. In professional baseball. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Aug 5 2011, 08:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 2-July 11 Member No.: 32,605 |
Haven't read any of the Shadowrun novels. The Move-By-Wire system and the Smartgun Physics SPU thing we've been talking about, though, would be AWESOME for this purpose. I'm only coming up short trying to figure out a plausible way to make it work without anything skillwire related.
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Aug 5 2011, 08:41 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
AR? Maybe it overlays an optimal path with an AR ghost? "Throw like this"?
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Aug 5 2011, 08:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 18-August 08 From: Dear lord help me, Maryland Member No.: 16,254 |
Haven't read any of the Shadowrun novels. The Move-By-Wire system and the Smartgun Physics SPU thing we've been talking about, though, would be AWESOME for this purpose. I'm only coming up short trying to figure out a plausible way to make it work without anything skillwire related. Move by Wire includes skillwire @ rating*2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Aug 5 2011, 09:01 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 2-July 11 Member No.: 32,605 |
Move by Wire includes skillwire @ rating*2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) That's what I'm saying. Not without skillwires. MBW would be perfect. It only got included because I couldn't figure out how to do it with just a "smartgun" system, even on the weakest logic. Xahn, trying to duplicate an AR shadow's motion exactly, down to the smallest detail, would still require wires. |
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Aug 5 2011, 09:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 29-June 07 Member No.: 12,093 |
As to the Shield... say:
Boomerang with Personalized Grip (for when holding it in your hand), Melee Hardening, with a Ballistic Shield as an "Underbarrel Weapon". Fairly low-tech but it'll get the job done (provided GM approval of course). |
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Aug 5 2011, 09:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 12-June 06 Member No.: 8,703 |
Truth, Justice, Universal Firearms Ownership, and Union Busting? So he's working for Ares? HAHAHAHAHAH! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) |
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Aug 5 2011, 11:54 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week. Try the fish!
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